Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278

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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • bluebird

    http://www.hu.edu.jo/research/cv.aspx

    Sister of Ahmad, Abdulameer, Adel and Ammar al Saffar:

    Name : Raith A. S. Al-Saffar
    Date of Birth : 21 / 4 /1948
    Marital Status : Married
    Languages : Arabic (written, spoken fluently)
    English (written, spoken fluently)
    Qualifications: 1. M.B., Ch.B. College of Medicine, University of Baghdad – Iraq (1971).
    2. M. Sc. (Anatomy), College of Medicine, University of Baghdad – Iraq (1980).
    3. Ph. D. (Anatomy), College of Medicine, University of Glasgow – U.K. (1987). Memberships: Member of: 1. The Iraq Medical Association.
    2. The Committee for Medical Education Development

    Abdulameer al Saffar (that guy is still alive, therefore not iqbals father – given that he really has already died – but perhaps a brother with the same first name as his fathers first name was):

    http://www.wpsa.com/calendar/calendar.html
    President of the WPSA Kuweit branch.

    Now let’s guess what the WPSA could be?
    “World Poultry Science Association”, governed by the ministries of agriculture (Adel al Saffar in syria).

    Poultry science! Remember?

    Coincidence? I guess: NO!

  • bluebird

    Al Safar family in Bahrain can be compared with the Medicis and Borgias in Europe! They were native agents for the UK since the 19th century.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bahrain

    The great trading families that emerged during this period have been compared to the Borgias and Medicis and their great wealth – long before the oil wealth for which the region would later be renowned – gave them extensive power, and among the most prominent were the Persian Al Safar family, who held the position of Native Agents of Britain in 19th Century.
    The Al Safar enjoyed an ‘exceptionally close relationship with the Al Khalifa clan from 1869, although the al-Khalifa never intermarried with them – it has been speculated that this could be related to political reasons (to limit the Safars’ influence with the ruling family) and possibly for religious reasons (because the Safars were Shia).

    Abdulameer al Saffar and poultry science in the UK

    http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?uin=uk.bl.ethos.390900

    Thrre is Suhyla al Saffar who runs a dental clinic in Bahrain. If that website isnt fake then she’s not mrs al allaf but an al Saffar from Bahrain, most likely a relative of iqbal. Seems to me that many al Saffars would like to be dentists.

    http://suhyla.com/index.htm

  • Jennywren

    BB I’m still reading too. All very interesting stuff. Wish we could see all these connections on a board, like they do in some police dramas.
    I wonder whatever happened to Merlin.

  • Tim V

    yea i’ve wondered that too. Any chance of a simple statement of the relevant “three/four” family connections you’ve uncovered BB? Does anyone know if “Christian (Stan) Maillaud” ever appeared again?

  • Tim V

    Bluebird
    20 Sep, 2013 – 3:44 pm
    “still feeling alone here …..
    Last bird standing?”

    A chicken?

  • Ricki Tarr

    West gate mall report on twitter says SWAT from US embassy and Mossad on scene, someone important must be in there!

  • Tim V

    As pointed out before, the murders took place forty years to the day of the Munich Massacre, when eleven members of the Israel Olympic team were killed by “Black September” activists on 5th September, 1972. Subsequently on the direct orders of the then Israeli Prime Minister, Golda Meir “Operation Wrath of God” was launched to kill all those associated with it. We know it lasted twenty years with many victims but did it last longer? Is Chevaline the remnants of a continuing programme of assassination (most recently that of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh in Dubai and subsequently the “suicide” cover-up of Ben Zygier in Jerusalem in 2010) that demonstrates there has been no change in Israeli policy?

    Not only was it on the 40th anniversary but there could be no more significant number than forty, sacred to Christians, Muslims and Jews but particularly the latter. I won’t bother to list all the references to the number in the Bible. It moves from Old Testament (Moses obtaining the ten commandments etc) to New (Jesus was forty days and forty nights in the wilderness) for example. So not only is it an exact anniversary of a defining event that lead directly to a policy of State Assassination, it could hardly be a more redolent with meaning.

  • Tim V

    Some more interesting facts about the number 40. (With thanks to Wiki)

    Forty is an octagonal number, and as the sum of the first four pentagonal numbers, it is a pentagonal pyramidal number. Adding up some subsets of its divisors (e.g., 1, 4, 5, 10 and 20) gives 40, hence 40 is a semi-perfect number. (cHECK OUT THE aMERICAN DOLLAR)

    The planet Venus forms a PENTAGRAM in the night sky every eight years with it returning to its original point every 40 years with a 40 day regression (some scholars believe that this ancient information was the basis for the number 40 becoming sacred to Jews, Christians, and Muslims).

    And now get this! Forty is the atomic number of ZIRCONIUM. (But then we all knew that didn’t we?)

  • Tim V

    Rosh Hashanah is the first of the High Holy Days or Yamim Nora’im (“Days of Awe”) which usually occur in the early autumn of the Northern Hemisphere. Rosh Hashanah is a two-day celebration, which begins on the first day of Tishrei.

    2013 date sunset, September 4 –
    nightfall, September 6

    Doesn’t quite fit for 2012 though I’m afraid! In 2012 from sundown on Sept. 16 to nightfall on Sept. 18.

    WIKI: “hree important stages as the spiritual order of the Ten Days of Repentance (the ten days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur) unfolds: On Rosh Hashanah God “‘opens’ the ‘books’ of judgment” of creation and all mankind starting from each individual person, and in those books it is first “written” what will be decreed, hence the emphasis on the “ketiva” (“writing”). The “judgement” is then “pending” and prayers and repentance are required. Then on Yom Kippur, the judgment is “sealed” or confirmed (i.e. by the Heavenly Court), hence the emphasis is on the word “chatima” (“sealed”).”

    “The Mishnah contains the second known reference to Rosh Hashanah as the “day of judgment”.[5] In the Talmud tractate on Rosh Hashanah, it states that three books of account are opened on Rosh Hashanah, wherein the fate of the wicked, the righteous, and those of an intermediate class are recorded. The names of the righteous are immediately inscribed in the book of life, and they are sealed “to live.” The intermediate class are allowed a respite of ten days, until Yom Kippur, to reflect, repent and become righteous;[6] the wicked are “blotted out of the book of the living forever.”[7]”

  • Tim V

    “Rosh Hashanah occurs 163 days after the first day of Passover (Pesach). In terms of the Gregorian calendar, the earliest date on which Rosh Hashanah can fall is September 5, as happened in 1899 and again in 2013. The latest date that Rosh Hashanah can occur relative to the Gregorian dates is October 5, as happened in 1967 and will happen again in 2043.”

    “Rosh Hashana is also the day of “Yom Hadin”, known as Judgment day. On Yom Hadin, 3 books are opened, the book of life, for the righteous among the nations, the book of death, for the most evil who receive the seal of death, and the third book for the ones living in doubts with non-evil sins.”

  • Tim V

    “23 Elul – The September 11 attacks (2001)
    24 Elul – Death of Chafetz Chaim (1933)
    25 Elul – The 1st day of Creation (3761 BCE)
    25 Elul – Jerusalem Walls Rebuilt (335 BCE)”

  • bluebird

    Off topic kenya

    Some guys are concerned about Mr.Grant from Chelmsford (sic!) blowing the whistle regarding the 7/7 london terror event. Diplomatic efforts in order to extradict mr.grant from nairobi prison werent successful. Kenyan authorities showed disrespectful behaviour to british officers in july 2013.

    Nairobi did insist that the court will start prosecution and public hearing of british citicen mr.grant from chelmsford (sic!) on sept 23rd 2013.

    Mr.Grant is officially accused of sexual assault in kenya (sic!, look up, mr.assange) but he is considered to be a logistics supporter of the somali al shabab terror organisation.
    Mr Adebowale (mi6/woolwich) had been extradicted to the UK. Mr.Grant’s extradition had been denied by the kenyan high court in nairobi.

    Sources:

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18000929

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/04/jermaine-grant-trial-kenya-delays

    A UK citizen suspected of being a militant Islamist has been acquitted by a Kenyan court of robbery with violence over an incident in 2008.The prosecution had failed to prove its case against Jermaine Grant of east London, the court ruled.He is due to appear again in a Kenyan court on 23 September on another set of terror-related charges.Kenyan police allege he was linked to the widow of a suicide bomber involved in the July 2005 attacks in London.’Explosive materials’Mr Grant has already served a two-and-half-year jail term for being in Kenya illegally.He was tried by a court in the capital, Nairobi, on charges related to a raid on a police station near the border with Somalia in 2008.A gang, suspected to be made up of militants of the al-Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group, attacked the police station, freeing Mr Grant after he was arrested for trying to cross into Somalia, police alleged.The gang allegedly stole four guns, stole a police vehicle and wounded a police officer during the attack.The court ruled that the charges against Mr Grant had not been proven.”The prosecution has failed to establish the case against him beyond reasonable doubt,” magistrate Kiarie Wa Kiarie told the court.Mr Grant, who remains in custody, is due to stand trial in the coastal city of Mombasa on 23 September after being accused of possessing explosive materials.He denies the allegation.Police allege that when they raided a house Mr Grant was staying in in 2011, they found ingredients needed to make a bomb – hydrogen peroxide and ammonium nitrate, as well as batteries and electrical switches.Last year, Kenyan government prosecutor Jacob Ondari alleged that Mr Grant had worked with Samantha Lewthwaite, the widow of London Underground bomber Jermaine Lindsay, on a bomb plot.Ms Lewthwaite is wanted by the Kenyan authorities and is alleged to be travelling on a forged passport.Her husband blew himself up on a London Underground train on 7 July 2005, killing 26 people.

  • Ricki Tarr

    Sky now reporting a day late I might add that Israeli forces are now at Westgate but they don’t know why! Although Mossad was there in the early stages of the attack yesterday because the shopping centre is owned by an Israeli consortium and also has Israeli workers And nationals in the centre!

  • bluebird

    http://yourdailymuslim.com/2013/05/18/your-daily-muslim-samantha-lewthwaite/

    Samantha Lewthwaote’s latest poem:

    “So maybe ­tomorrow it will be ­Jannah [paradise], I look around at how beautiful Jihad is, it’s alive in Kenya, it’s alive in me, and I’m breathing Jihad, it’s my time.”

    Last week her second husband, terrorist habib ghani was killed in somalia by a rival (secret service) terror cell.

    Ally of world’s most wanted woman the White Widow is shot dead in Somalia raid: Briton killed by rival Islamic militants.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419556/Habib-Ghani-ally-White-Widow-Samantha-Lewthwaite-shot-dead-rival-Islamic-militants-Somalia.html

    Bbb

  • bluebird

    Most interesting:

    http://www.nairobiexposed.com/2013/08/22/samantha-lewthwaite-k-white-widow/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315591/The-Home-Counties-girl-training-female-suicide-bombers-Al-Qaeda–trading-bitchy-insults-terrorist-rival-Twitter.html

    Facebook chats and connections with Tsarnaev’s american widow, her father a british army general who married an irish woman. Different sources say that he was a high ranked mi5 intelligence officer in northern ireland. That would correspond with tsarnaev’s widow’s father, who was a high ranked cia officer.

    Most interesting

    Bb

  • bluebird

    Thanks ricki tarr! Good info.

    On Sept 5th al Amriki posted his last twitter message (see below).
    Does that mean that both british/american terrorists were killed on sept 5th?

    Sept 5th ….. hmmmm … coincidence?

    Quote:
    Since the split, al-Shabab has been hunting down and killing allies of Aweys.Al-Amriki – the son of a Christian mother and a Syrian-born Muslim father – was on the FBI’s Most Wanted terror list and a $5million (£3.1million) bounty was offered for information leading to his capture.He had been active on Twitter but his last post was on September 5 in which he said: ‘I’m still a terrorist.’Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419994/How-Omar-Hammami-British-bomb-maker-Habib-Ghani-died-Somalia-gun-battle-rival-terrorists.html#ixzz2ff5gs160 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419994/How-Omar-Hammami-British-bomb-maker-Habib-Ghani-died-Somalia-gun-battle-rival-terrorists.html

  • bluebird

    Abdirizak Mouled 24 years’ of Ontario Canada 
    Ahmed Mohamed Isse, 22, of Saint Paul, Minnesota 
    Abdifatah Osman Keenadiid. 24 years in Minneapolis 
    Gen Mustafe Noorudiin. 27, of Kansas City. MO 
    Sayid Nuh, 25, of Kismayu, Somalia
    Sa’d Daud 23 years,Damascus Syria
    Abdishakur Sheikh Hassan 22, from Maine
    Shafie Die 25, of Tucson Arizona
    Mohammed Bader 25 years’ of Aleppo Syria 
    Ismael Guled, 23, Helsinky Finland 
    Zaki Caraale Jama, 20 years’ of Hargeisa, Somalia 
    Shirdoon Nasir Ahmed, 24, of London GB 
    Qasim Said Musa, 22, Garissa, Kenya
    Eliko Mamedoff, 27, Dagestan
    Abdelkarem Ali Mohamed, 21, of Illinois 

  • katie

    Ricki:

    “Israel’s already intimate ties with Kenya likely to deepen in wake of terror attack
    Reported Israeli aid in Nairobi is in line with long-standing Israeli-Kenyan ties.”
    The high-ranking Kenyan official said Kenya and Israel had maintained close security and intelligence cooperation for many years and were in contact at every level and in every field of endeavor.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.548375

  • bluebird

    Al Amriki wasnt killed on sept 12th as one source said, but on sept 5th.
    On the other hand: was he killed or extradited?
    If he really was a CIA undercover then an extradition would be likely once his real identity as a secret service agent became known. Or else they allowed them to kill him because he was a danger of whistleblowing.

    His last twitter message was posted on Sept 5th ……
    Sept 5th!!

    http://aljazeera.com/story/201391293315761506

    http://sabahionline.com/en_GB/articles/hoa/articles/newsbriefs/2013/09/12/newsbrief-03

    http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/this-would-be-another-case-of-a-cia-directed-phony-jihadist-being-executed-by-genuine-rebels-i-hope/

    https://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/tag/abc-news-confirms-al-amriki-is-head-of-propaganda-for-al-shabaab/

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/michael-adebolajo-britains-abu-mansour-al-amriki-multiple-ties-to-fake-muslim-terrorists/

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    Ricky on 21. september:

    West gate mall report on twitter says SWAT from US embassy and Mossad on scene, someone important must be in there!

    There are Israeli owned [posh] shops in there. That’s what I’ve heard. And this could well be a motive. In Scandinavia we help Africa a lot, but not exactly by erecting shopping malls for the 0,005 percent of the population. Ain’t this just typically Jewish! And mustn’t it be condemned by all honest men and women! It’s not only amoral, it’s also a risk to your own security if you are that stupid – to go about caring for the upper classes in a country that just recently escaped form colonialism!

    Very interesting information that the posh shopping center is Israeli owned which could well be the [sole] motive for the attack, as Israel is hated throughout the region by ordinary folks, who always are on the side of the poor Palestinians, who has gotten their land stolen and confiscated.

    Recent terror-attacks in Kenya both involved Israeli targets. This was the case when two shoulder borne Strela missiles were fired at an Israeli plane from the Arkia company — which had 2 jets, both of them equipped with countermeasures, because the company used to transport the fat bastard, Ariel Scheinermann and the car bomb attack against an Israeli owned resort hotel at the coast a few minutes later killing 15 people.

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