The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Pink
It makes no sense (the translation)
I strongly believe that the french sentence ALREADY WAS a computer translation. Likely translated from english into russian and then back to french from russian.
This is no french although there is french vocabulary.
The most close translation is BS because it means that “a cyclist found studies of a dentist who works for the royal airforce”.
As a matter of fact the original sentence (after several computer translations) simply meant:
“A former Royal Air force member (WBM) found a dead cyclist and a dead dental student”.
This is the linguistic and semantic problem of computer translations of computer translations. It’s like the joke where a mouse becomes an elephant after several people told the same story one to another in a kind of information chain.
No conspiracy here but a pity computer translation chain creating BS in the end.
Lord Triesman admits that anti-Semitism existed within Fifa during his time as Football Association chairman
Former FA chairman Lord Triesman reveals that he has experienced anti-Semitism and witnessed racism within the walls of Fifa
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Kenneth Sorensen tells the bugger to shove it up his.
[Moderator’s deletion emphasised]
@Bluebird
14 Oct, 2013 – 9:18 am
Thank you for checking BB I thought it might be something to do with the translation as was all very muddled .
I cant speak or read french so I rely on google and it can be very hit and miss.
Perhaps connected and on topic:
http://timesofindia.com/world/middle-east/Arafat-was-poisoned-with-radioactive-Polonium-Swiss-radiation-experts-say/articleshow/24160129.cms
A private polonium 210 creation lab in a private house in a surrey village? According to scientists this could be possible. That could explain why the nuclear experts team was searching their house.
http://spiegel.de/international/spiegel/a-452706.html
In any case, experts say it would be all but impossible to manufacture the necessary amount of polonium in a simple basement laboratory. The amount that was used in the attack almost certainly came from a nuclear reactor or a particle accelerator. In order to create a larger quantity of polonium in an accelerator, the element bismuth is bombarded with particles.
The swiss teams findings — based on examination of his personal belongings such as underwear and tootbrush and just published in The Lancet — supports the notion that he was poisoned.
But until we have the results from the examinations being done by a Swiss, French and a Russian team on his body, which was exhumed in November 2012, it is difficult tp say something conclusive — and there you have the reason why this part-finding does not figure prominently in todays news.
Cezus/Ugine: “Corrosion resistant zirconium alloys containing bismuth”
Bismuth is used in the metal alloys production in Ugine.
And then that:
In order to create a larger quantity of polonium in an accelerator, the element bismuth is bombarded with particles.
And then that:
“Saad worked on a huge accelerator”.
And then that:
“Search of Saad’s house in Surrey by military specialists in nuclear and radiation technology. Obviously there was a search for tiny bits of (??) (Polonium 210?).
Hmmmmm …
You got there before me BB.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/15/yasser-arafat-poisoned-polonium-litvinenko_n_4099837.html?1381830901&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
So Litvinenko and Arafat assassinated using the the same radio-active material (Polonium 210)? It appears highly likely the former was killed by the Russians, the latter by the Israelis. Its unlikely the the Russians would have acted for Israel or vice-versa, or maybe not? I’m guessing but who knows? In any event this proves a common and unusual method that requires access to inaccessible materials and technology which must be significant. Yet more evidence that all is not what it is purported to be and circumstantially that Israel added nuclear poisoning to its celebrated palette of assassination tools.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/15/yasser-arafat-poisoned-polonium-litvinenko_n_4099837.html?1381830901&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
The big question in my mind is why was SM THERE? What had to be done in person that could not be done at a distance? Was it to transfer a sample material or more likely INFORMATION? Knowing what we have always suspected, and since Snowden, confirmed, that NRA/Cheltenham not only have the ability but DO monitor all internet traffic, SAH would have been very aware of this. Why was SM’s body searched if not believed to be carrying something important? Given he was off his bike, shot first, last and most often, searched before getting the hell out of there leaving no trace, EM’s story that he was 99.9% sure he was not involved must either be crass stupidity or intentional lie. If the latter – for what reason? To cover up a crime or to cover up a line of enquiry he wishes not to reveal? I would prefer the latter, but given all the other indicators, fear it’s the former. Something BOTH Israel AND France wish to conceal and Britain not yet prepared to reveal?
“Due to its scarcity, polonium is usually produced by bombarding bismuth-209 with neutrons in a nuclear reactor. This forms bismuth-210, which has a half-life of 5 days. Bismuth-210 decays into polonium-210 through beta decay. Milligram amounts of polonium-210 have been produced by this method.
Polonium-210 is a very strong emitter of alpha particles. A single gram of polonium-210 creates 140 Watts of heat energy and is being considered as a lightweight heat source for thermoelectric power for spacecraft. Polonium-210 has a half-life of 138.39 days.
Polonium’s most stable isotope, polonium-209, has a half-life of 102 years. It decays into lead-205 through alpha decay. Polonium-209 is available from Oak Ridge National Laboratory at the cost of about $3200 per microcurie.
Polonium can be used to eliminate static electricity in machinery that is caused by processes such as the rolling of paper, wire or sheet metal, although other materials which emit beta particles are more commonly used for this purpose. Polonium is also used in brushes for removing dust from photographic films, although the polonium must be carefully sealed to protect the user from contamination. Polonium is also combined with beryllium to form neutron sources.”
http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele084.html
the only bit I can add to this is that radiation is classified according to characteristics into alpha, beta and gamma sources. Polonium 210 is an alpha emitter which can be stopped with just thin silver foil. In other words it can be transported fairly easily without detection. Its great danger arises when INSIDE the body when both its toxic (one of the most poisonous materials known) and radiological effects are catastrophic. Given the above, is polonium used at the Cezus works? Then bismuth. Presumably that is as the Annecy works? It has to be bombarded by nuetrons in a reactor but would x-rays do?????????
sorry *neutrons. it went off before I spotted
a question we raised months ago – what post mortem tests were carried out on the victims and did they include those for radiological contamination. Those teams at SAH’s home were certainly dressed up to the nines weren’t they?
It’s typical of a people occupying an area the size of Delaware plus Cecil County in Maryland* [O, you thought it was just the size of Delaware? No it’s BIG! You have to include the adjacent Cecil County in Maryland to really appreciate the true size of it, and get to grips with which sort of a deminuative country continues to drag the rest of the world around by its nose] that they in order to compensate for their short comings and….smallness (in every way), they want to be first with the latest. And from an operative point of view i think you have to be first, in order not to get found out. Unfortuneately for them, the world got to know about it, because the Russians copied the procedure in 2006, when its agents poisoned the Jew, Litvinenko.
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*) in comparing Israels size with Delaware plus Cecil County in Maryland, I first deduct the suare area of the largely desolate Negev desert.
Proof, if proof were needed, how desperate “freedom-loving” governments are to prevent the truth getting out is the US case of Barratt Brown facing 100 years gaol for SHARING a text on the internet! They even try to prevent anyone knowing that he has been arrested or accused of a crime. It appears to me this is fascism pure and simple and it would appear Britain is moving in the same direction.
“Brown is being charged, essentially, with doing something everyone (including myself right now) does on the Internet: he posted a link [1].
The Brown case raises all kinds of issues around freedom of expression and information but, perhaps most importantly, it uncovers a deeper and more dangerous aspect of the Obama Administration’s information policy. Brown’s case illustrates that, in addition to targeting the use of the Internet for spreading information, it is targeting the very act of information distribution. That includes the work that journalists routinely do but it also includes the information sharing you and I do on the Internet almost as a reflex.
It also reveals a world the government definitely doesn’t want you to know about: the murky, possibly sometimes illegal, world of inter-connection between the government and a network of secretive information and cyber-security companies. That was the world Brown broke into and that, in the end, is probably his “crime”.
So intense is the government’s desire to keep this under wraps that on September 4 federal prosecutors imposed a gag order that forbids Brown, who is currently in prison but actively writing from there, from saying or writing anything about his case that isn’t on the public record. In short, he can’t tell us what he actually did and why: the information we all need to know.”
http://inquiringminds.cc/when-posting-a-link-is-a-crime-a-century-in-jail-for-doing-what-you-do-all-the-time
Very odd for me to find someone talking about me on here.
Jesse Moore
Tim V Sept. 30, 3:52 PM
Sorry for the lengthy disappearance. First I got wrapped up in some freaking projects, then I was sick for extended period. Now it’s catch up time, that with gov’t shutdown to boot, so no lengthy marlin post yet.
But thanks for inquiring and missing, Tim V. I’ve missed this site too, even if there was little to contribute on my end. I’ll read your summary which will surely be electrifying. perhaps it’ll bring up some new light to shed on old theories? Am i right and Mochy69 has not been seen much lately either?
All that being said, how’s MZT coming along/ anyone checking the latest Chevaline-mystery-busting theories emanating from the eminents?
PHEW! Marlin
15 Oct, 2013 – 8:06 pm. Glad to see you back. Sorry to hear you’ve been poorly but relieved your back on track. No haven’t seen Mochyn in ages. Hope he/she is OK as well. It would be nice to know what “names” look in without commenting, even just the daily number of “hits”. New bits since you’ve been gone have been the news conference which for the first time I believe at least admitted the possibility of “industrial espionage or foreign states” despite being barren of anything worthwhile; “a friend’s” report that SM was in fear of being shot; and now Polonium 210 on Arafat’s toothbrush. There are claims that Israel exploded a tactical nuclear weapon over Damascus earlier in the the year, and the You Tube images certainly suggest it. Do you have any info. on this? Also I guess we nearly went to war then pulled back since you were last in pissin off both France and Israel, Obama out manoeuvred by Putin, then the the close-down of American Government, so nothing much has happened!!!
Jesse Moore
15 Oct, 2013 – 5:41 pm where? Sorry I missed it. (ps Are you the singer?)
Dentists and polonium ….
Hmmmmm ….
Quote
The biggest new challenge for dentists is to remove the polonium and uranium from the patients’ mouth.
http://www.drclark.net/en/clean-ups/advanced/teeth
Bluebird
15 Oct, 2013 – 11:06 pm – where you dig them up? Mercury filling dangers well known but depleted uranium and polonium a new one on me! Any polonium inside the body has to be bad news I would say.
Tim v
Polonium 210 is the number one cancer reason.
It’s not the smoke of cigarettes that triggers lung cancer but the polonium you inhale with cigarette smoke that triggers cancer.
And now we have the polonium in teeth fillings.
Dentists are obviously aware of polonium.
Perhaps they have a good and reliable method to detect tiny nano polonium traces.
I dont know but the above link could give an answer.
It was just an assumption that Saad could have produced polonium. On the other hand he could have done quite the contrary. Perhaps he was just the driver and it wete iqbal and hermother who were specialists in detecting polonium. Were they the specialist ones who got items (or maybe even tiny particles from Arafat’s corpse) in order to detect PO210?
Was Mollier a handler of such items as Arafat died in france?
The al Saffar family and al Hilli family and their close ties to palestine could support this assumption. Also there is the “friends of palestine” club in ugine, connected to the political right wing group sylvain and his father were part of.
I am just speculating here but if iqbal and her mother had the experience to track and trace polonium particles ….
Given that Yasser Arafat was a relative of the al Saffar family and that Mohammed al Tawil (Arafat’s wife was Suha (=Suhayla) al Tawil) worked with the al Saffar Holding, i would not be surprised when the al Saffar family had a personal interest in the death reason of Arafat.
Quote google:
Bahrein’s $26 million deal with USA
28.11.2006 – … CENTURY 21 Bahrain; Adel AlSafar, Chairman, Al Safar Group Holding and Mohammed Al Tawil, CEO Syrconsult ….
(Link as above is still in google but content was removed from the internet).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/27/yasser-arafat-exhumed-reburied-night
So then, who gave Suhayla al Tawil (Arafat) the hint in 2012 that arafat could have been poisoned with PO 210? Who made pre-tests before november 2012 and who had told her? It wasnt her sudden idea after long 8 years. Somebody gave her a hint and said “lets see, my sister – i am educated enough to find traces of polonium on his clothes if there are any. Lets find out. Give me something. I have my small lab in my surrey house…”
Tuesday 27 November 2012
Eight years after his death, it was Arafat’s widow, Suha, who had him brought up again as part of a French murder investigation into whether he was slowly killed by a radioactive poison, polonium-210 – the same substance used to murder the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006 – after it was detected on his clothes earlier this year.The plan had been to move Arafat’s corpse to a mosque for religious rites to be observed before samples were taken by rival teams of scientists hired by Suha and the Palestinian Authority, who are deeply distrustful of each other. After that, there was to be a reburial with full military honours.But once the concrete was finally hacked through, Arafat’s remains were in no state to be moved. Instead the coffin was lifted out for Palestinian doctors, working under the watchful eye of the foreign scientists, to take about 20 samples to be tested for poisons as well as polonium. Then it was resealed and reburied.
Suha Arafat refused to permit an autopsy at the time. But earlier this year she gave some of her late husband’s personal items, including his toothbrush, underwear and kaffiyeh to Al Jazeera television which sent them to Switzerland for tests. The Institut de Radiophysique discovered abnormal levels of polonium-210.
The tests were inconclusive, however, and so Suha Arafat, a French citizen, asked the French government to launch a murder inquiry. The Palestinian Authority, suspicious of Arafat’s widow – who is not a popular figure among Palestinians in part in part because she is regarded as having enriched herself – and the French and Swiss experts she hired, called in Russian scientists to do separate analysis.
off topic but of interest. the well known case of michael hastings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zakBULPETo
(Aaron Russo died of bladder cancer in 2007 btw) So many witnesses, critics it’s almost routine
who was on board?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24561587
Here’s an old report that I’ve just come across with some interesting details and perpetuating some well established errors.
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/10/27/tuerie-de-chevaline-les-secrets-d-une-scene-de-crime_1782012_3224.html
Chevaline Project
“Exo-atmospheric Flight Testing
INSYS is the only UK company which regularly designs, develops
and flies payloads for the US missile defence programme,
currently the responsibility of the US Missile Defence Agency
(MDA). This results from US recognition of the INSYS extensive
database, and innovative concepts which complement the US
activities.
Combining the expertise developed in strategic systems with its
engineering and maunufacturing capability INSYS became the UK
Principal Contractor for the provision of a sophisticated payload
on a major UK/US collaborative re-entry vehicle flight experiment,
flown on the US STARS booster from Barking Sands launch facility
on Kauai. The Contract carried out for DERA (now Dstl), Farnborough
involved the design, manufacture, development and qualification of
the flight payload which included an instrumentation and telemetry
package which provided exceptional flight dynamics data to analysts.
INSYS Trials and Safety engineering disciplines were fundamental to
the successful flight preparation activities during assembly,
integration and test (AIT) and the flight campaign.
During the same time period 1990 to 1993, INSYS were design
authority for the provision of a number of experimental payloads
to other US MDA exoatmospheric flight tests.
Re-Entry Vehicles
More recently INSYS has been awarded contract by Dstl, Farnborough
as UK PC for the development of re-entry vehicles for the US
missile defence community. INSYS work closely with US Space and
Missile Defense Command who are the launch facilitators and other
US sub contractors including Lockheed Martin, Coleman Aerospace/
Orbital Sciences, Ball Aerospace and ITT Industries.
Key to INSYS involvement in these programmes was its composite
materials and precision manufacturing capability discussed later.
The most recent flight test to include an INSYS designed and
manufactured re-entry vehicle was in May 2002 when an RV target
was provided for a US Patriot PAC3 intercept experiment.”
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/uk/slbm/chevaline.html
dera/dstl – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert)
http://digitalcommons.usu.edu/smallsat/2001/All2001/6/
Abstract
TopSat is an unclassified collaborative mission between DERA, SSTL, RAL and InfoTerra, funded by the UK MoD and the British National Space Centre Mosaic Programme. The mission will demonstrate provision of rapid response 2.5 m ground sampled imagery to fixed and mobile ground targets using a low cost SSTL microsatellite. The platform provides accurate target selection via agile off-pointing from nadir by ± 30°. On-board computers, GPS and sophisticated attitude and data handling systems enable safe semi-autonomous operations.