The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
*any insight
http://charlesfrith.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/family-of-secrets-bush-dynastys-jfk.html
@ Jon
I realise that the site has been rejigged but for some reason i can only access this thread via the link below (using the IP address rather than the name craigmurray.org.uk)
I wonder if DNS changes have been propagated (I am on BT if it helps but dont know what DNS they use or whether they use some kind of caching that messes things up)
http://194.50.163.175/archives/2012/09/not-forgetting-the-al-hillis/comment-page-94/#comments
Also the page renders in text only and is very slow. Maybe the page code itself refers to the site name somewhere and it can’t be resolved. I had to edit the form action to be “http://194.50.163.175/wp/wp-comments-post.php” to get this to post.
Anyway thanks for working on a doubtless thankless task.
Pink
Thanks for the ledauphine link.
Alexis de la Fontaine
A name worth to store.
He will release so far unknown testimonies in early january regarding the chevaline killings.
Jon. That aline will be worth to keep that blog alive.
Next week there shall be news released in ledauphine regarding the tournier killing, too.
News:
http://m.mytf1news.fr/app.php/article/4917565
Chevaline massacre: the call for witnesses gave nothing
December 2 24:29 – One month after the launch of an appeal for witnesses by the police and prosecutors Annecy to try to find a biker, the hundreds of calls failed to advance the investigation the quadruple murder of Chevaline. For the prosecutor, the year 2014 will be a year décisive.Ils hoped reactivate the investigation by generating new evidence. But a month later by the police and prosecutors Annecy outcomes elucidate the quadruple murder of Chevaline in Haute-Savoie, September 5, 2012, are scarce, if not nonexistent. “The appeal for witnesses has nothing interesting given that day,” says Eric Maillaud MYT1News Monday, prosecutor Annecy. “We are on less than a hundred calls, including some one from abroad, but nothing that provides information that triggers the investigation in one way or another. We especially had some calls wacky people who recognize their neighbor, their superintendent or gendarme brigade next door, “he says. This new appeal for witnesses was indeed accompanied by the sketch of a man wearing a black motorcycle helmet with side opening, which is uncommon. This headphone is published in 8,000 copies, in particular with the police in the 2000s. No new appeal for witnesses to call this witness will not be restarted. “Insofar as the time passes, we know that we will have fewer calls and soon all. They wanted to close a door, now it’s done,” said the prosecutor. “The work continues, but the chances of recovering these headphones are dwindling, that’s for sure, says Eric Maillaud.” We have long known that it will be a long and complex investigation. Until all the material elements have not been exploited, the investigation continues. “These survey, this is all the data found in the computer of Saad al-Hilli, research and analysis of all the CCTV footage. “From the beginning, we know we can not have done this operation before September 2014. The year 2014 will be an important year, said the prosecutor. All tracks are open: the examination of his bank accounts … The eventual possibility of a pan is a survey that has relatively recently started to advance slowly, “the magistrate. An investigative always mobilized September 5, 2012 The thirty Saad al-Hilli, British origin Iraqi 50 years, his wife and his stepmother had been killed several times in the head on a forest road near Chevaline. A cyclist in the region, likely collateral victim, was also shot. Having a biker near places had long been known by the investigators, but they deliberately chose not to make state to give more chance to question a suspect. Sixteen months after the killings, thirty investigators is still mobilized . full time on this case The toll, even if it will not be restarted, remains active: it is the 0800 002 950 “We can only be patient, you like me,” concludes Eric Maillaud..
If you can speak french it will be worth to follow the twitter account of journalist Alexis de la Fontaine (link below). You need some time for searching the history of his twitter account for the unknown knowns, though. (Link below). Unfortunately my french isnt good enough and i dont have time. He has got information the general public does not have.
Quote from a follower on his twitter:
Alexis, it is you who turns the doc on the sidelines of the courthouse? Came across it by chance, very informative!
https://mobile.twitter.com/aldelafontaine
Twitter News from local investigator AmRochaix
@deadzone61 Turn it around, seeing the robot image the#Lathuile killer understood what group was involved in #Chevalinehence retaliation.
#Chevaline Maillaud says: Mollier was “wrong man at wrong place”, perhaps not at the layby, but in local society. A pauper among the rich.
Young Haute Savoie gen. at Grenoble Uni. 2007-2009. Creating relations, partying, see Grenoble2night. I was there too, under another name.
#Chevaline #Lathuile context: some from Haute Savoie were fighting in the bataille d’Alasaï 2009, while others were partying at Grenoble.
That is what AmRochaix does refer to. Was S.Mollier there? And Sylvain Tournier?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alasay
The Battle of Alasay, codenamed Operation Dinner Out, was a military operation carried out by French troops of the Chasseurs Alpins’s 27e Battalion and the Afghan National Army (ANA) 1st Kandak (battalion) between the 14th and 23rd of March 2009.[1]Marine Embedded Training Team 6-4 as well as other US units provided air support, both with attack helicopters and A-10 and F-15Estrike aircraft. The operation enabled the construction of two bases for the Afghan Army in the Alasay valley, which had been guerilla control since 2006.
35 killed confirmed (70 supposed)40 wounded confirmed (80 supposed)
Here is hot news!
Do you remember this guy?
Murat Sahin from Winterthur, Switzerland.
The lookalike chevaline robot, Kurd, former turkish intelligence agent, knows and accuses the killer of the 3 kurdish women in paris, requesting protection and save conduct as a crown witness from the french government.
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2013/2/turkey4492.jpg
Do you remember the Doussard vendetta with the Kurdish Havutcu clan?
Further investigation:
One part of the kurdish Havutcu clan lives in Faverges (as we know very well).
Another part of the Havutcu clan lives in Winterthur, Switzerland. Got it?
Another part lives in germany and in new york.
The main part still lives in turkey (facebook connections were helpful).
Now the breaking news:
Facebook reveals that the Havutcu clan is strongly befriended and probably intermarried with the kurdish Simsek clan who is the family of Enver Simsek.
Who is Enver Simsek?
Enver Simsek was first accused by german police that he works for PKK and in the drugs business. His family strongly denies the allegations.
Enver Simsek was the first victim of the German NSU right wing killings. The style of killings was the same style as having been approved in chevaline. 2 Shots into the head. Killers usually using bikes or bicycles. Once in history of this board i did mention the german NSU killings but now i got a direct family link of the Enver Simsek family with the Cavit Havutcu family in Faverges. And i got a direct link between Murat Sahin and the other part of the Havutcu family in Winterthur/Switzerland.
Knowing all these local connections and the Doussard vendetta, look at the picture of Murat Sahin ince again!
Jon, 9-9 isnt zero? Whats up with your math? 🙂
For thise of you who want to learn about the background of the kurd Enver Simsek killing who was related withe the kurdish Havutcu clan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosphorus_serial_murders
Who is good enough for sending murat sahin’s picture to @AmRochaix and to @aldelafontaine ? I am quite convinced now – due to the strong havutcu connections and their simsek connections – that he actually is the efit biker robot.
The kurdish Simsek/Havutcu family clan was also active in Melbourne/Victoria:
OZGUR SIMSEK, 32 Simsek had a lot on his mind. Facing charges of operating a multi-million dollar backyard amphetamine-making operation, he had reputedly hit the bottle — hard. “He had come to a lot of drinking, apparently, because of his predicament,” Sen-Det David O’Riley of the Victoria Police clandestine lab squad says. “With the (court) plea coming up and looking at doing a long stint in jail, he had a bit of a drink problem.” Simsek would never have his day in court. About 5.30am on March 28 last year, Simsek is believed to have gone to a brothel in Coppin St, Richmond. It was closed. A security camera captured him apparently tripping on the gutter and hitting his head, fracturing his skull. Simsek had a genetic bleeding disorder known as Von Willenbrand’s disease. He was found by a passer-by, slumped on the ground, struggling for breath and bleeding from the mouth. He died soon afterwards in hospital. Simsek’s family have since taken his body back to Turkey to be buried.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-99411.html
Breaking:
PKK confirmed in Faverges !!!!
The facebook page of Cavit Havutcu from Faverges (remember the local vendetta!) is full with pictures of PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan. Even Cavit Havutcu’s profile picture shows a profile picture of Abdullah Öcalan. This is like a shrine for Öcalan and for PKK created by Cavit Havutcu from Faverges.
Have a look:
Facebook: /cavit.havutcu.3
Cavit Havutcu speaks German, French, Kurdish and Turkish.
So we have conformation that the local Havutcu family is strong PKK.
We have confirmation that they are befriended/intermarried with the Enver Simsek family.
One part of the Havutcu family lives in Winterthur (Switzerland), coincidentally that is the same small swiss town where kurdish MIT ex-double-agent Murat Sahin lives who looks like the chevaline efit.
The kurdish PKK mafia Baybasin/Simsek/Havutcu clan. Sorry for the long quotes but this is important to understand the clan connections and their activities.
The PKK Baybasin clan is the first address in London for
1) drugs import/export
2) illegal weapons import/export
3) smuggling of goods of all kinds including humans
Baybasin – The Emperor
Center: London, UK
Baybasin-Simsek/Havutcu clan: Not only in Faverges, in Switzerland and in Melbourne. Their office of command is in London:
http://londonstreetgangs.blogspot.com/2013/04/north-east-londons-turkish-kurdish-mafia.html
The next major traffickers to fall in north-east London were Muslum Simsek, who was alleged to have headed a professional and ruthless organisation with its distribution base in Wood Green, north London where the Kurdish Baybasin clan are dominant. Simsek, who based himself in a luxury flat in the London Docklands, was aided in his business by two compatriots, Ali Aksu of Bounds Green and Huseyin Kaynak of nearby Wood Green. Four months before seizing nearly 200kg of heroin brought into the country by Simsek’s network, customs officers began ‘Operation Fletcher’ in a bid to smash the Kurdish gang and Simsek and Aksu were placed under surveillance. During surveillance the pair were tailed to an area near Vauxhaul Railway Station. Here officers observed them removing packages from a special compartment concealed within a tour bus. For operational reasons, the driver was allowed to pick up the tourists, who were from the Czech Republic, and travel back into Europe. It is thought that 50kg of drugs were delivered on this occasion (not included as part of the charge). Surveillance continued and Simsek and Aksu were later arrested by armed officers in possession of three black hold alls containing 66kg of heroin, whilst another 72kg was found in a vehicle owned by Aksu and 9kg at Kaynak’s address in Wood Green. On September 14, 1995, Czech coach driver Tomas Honz, from Liberic, was observed waiting with his bus at Westminster Abbey whilst a party of Czech teachers toured the site. When nobody turned up to collect the consignment he rounded up his passengers and drove back to Ramsgate where customs swooped. Fifty kilos of heroin were recovered from a compartment concealed beneath one of the bus’ wheel arches. At the time, the 198.5kg haul was the second-largest ever seized in Britain. Judge Jeffrey, at Southwark Crown Court, told Muslum Simsek that he was an “active, enthusiastic and ruthless” participant in the conspiracy, as he was handed a 30 year sentence for conspiracy to import. Ali Aksu, who was the only defendant to plead guilty, was sentenced to 20 years, while Huseyin Kaynak was jailed for 24 years. Bus driver Tomas Honz received 26 years. Like Simsek, Selim Duzgun from nearby Tottenham, north London, was branded by the judge as ruthless having been found guilty of conspiracy to supply heroin the following month. Duzgun and an accomplice were caught with £515k worth of heroin and almost £2,000, some of which was in foreign currency including Deutschmarks. In Duzgun’s home police also recovered a Browning pistol with silencer, together with 25 rounds of ammunition.
The Gardai seizure was destined for the districts of Crumlin and Drimnagh in Dublin whereby a local feud between drug gangs had claimed 18 lives between 2000 and 2012[xi]. According to intelligence received by the Guardia Civil from Spanish police, Irish criminals Patrick Doyle and Frederick Thompson, from Crumlin, whilst in the Costa Del Sol had been warned by Turkish criminals that they would be murdered if they did not pay outstanding bills for a number of heroin shipments[xii]. The pair had been introduced to a Turkish family from London who had been supplying them with heroin imported from Afghanistan. Doyle was killed shortly after the threat in 2008 whilst sat in his BMW X5 in Spain, ambushed by gunmen who fired over two dozen shots into his body from a machine pistol.
In 1995 Interpol issues a warrant for the arrest of Huseyin Baybasin at the request of the Republic of Turkey. It followed extensive interviews in which Huseyin had told the Turkish media that the Turkish state at its highest level was actively involved in the trafficking of drugs and the murder of political opponents. He claimed that high ranking officials, including Turkish consulates abroad, were involved in organised crime. The Turkish state, obviously, rubbished his claims, however, suspicions of a “deep state” were almost confirmed a year later when a car crashed in the town of Sursurluk. Inside the vehicle there was a senior chief of police, a prominent politician and a wanted assassin with a history of involvement in organised crime. The crash revealed the telling associations between state officials and organised criminals in Turkey. Huseyin Baybasin was born in June 1956 in south east Turkey in the settlement of Lice. Lice is a Kurdish area and is also the birthplace of the PKK, it also happens to fall within the smuggling province of Diyabakir, one of the least developed areas of Turkey. Huseyin was from a large family of which many members were known to police. In one clash with police, over smuggling issues, the brother of Huseyin was killed and his uncle was seriously wounded. His early smuggling and contraband career began with selling roses and paprikas to the wealthier residents; he eventually went on to become a street trader in his spare time after school. Although his sales at this time were not illegal items, they had come from neighbouring Syria, and bringing in items across the border was prohibited.
Whilst in London the Baybasin’s began to cultivate political contacts, including local ward councillor Alan Sloam, once a well-known figure in north London party circles. Sloam had persuaded local MP, Tony McNulty, to support Huseyin’s wife with visits to her husband in the Netherlands. He was later barred from holding office for a year for deception in an unrelated matter. Another political figure, Labour MEP Claude Moraes, was also persuaded to raise questions on Huseyin’s behalf to the European Parliament. A property empire built up by Huseyin in London included several residential mansions around Edgware, car sales businesses and even a retirement home for policemen in Hove, Sussex. Further to this he owned hotels in Istanbul and a factory in his hometown of Lice.
One of the most disturbing finds of Operation Naritas successive operation, Operation Tiller, was a torture ‘chamber of horrors’, located in a scruffy bedsit off Green Lanes and protected by a heavily fortified front door. It was so well protected that officers had to cut a hole through the wall in order break down the two metal gates and smash the windows to gain entry. Detectives were of the belief that the address was used by enforcers to discipline local businessmen who refused to pay protection money but more commonly to settle drug debts. In one room there were two large metal hooks fixed to the ceiling, lengths of thick electric cable were used to suspend victims from them. In a nearby flat police found machetes, loaded handguns, drugs, counterfeit money and equipment that was used for forging passports[xvi]. The current status of the Kurdish Bulldogs is unknown, currently the most recognised organisation that sits beneath the Baybasin Clan are most commonly known as the Bombers.
I sincerely hope that i don’t talk to a mirror here.
The below story sounds like Chevaline.
Nihat Simsek/Havutcu (PKK) who came from a camp in northern Iraq was the assassinator: ( google translation)
German Turkish News | Published: 24.03.11, 09:44 | Updated: 24.03.11, 09:48 |
In course of the investigation, there are other indications that the Kurdish organization could have played a certain role. The safety precautions at the hospital were alerted.
Photos of Nihat Şimşek, one of the assassins of Ibrahim Tatlises have surfaced. It shows the man to be assigned with a Kalashnikov in a PKK camp. The camp is located in a rural region in northern Iraq, write various Turkish newspapers. Also, in several emails there are references to the PKK.We announced the Turkish investigators that they had received this evidence from the emails you send Ruşen M. – a lawyer who was also questioned in the matter Tatlises as a witness. On the possible PKK Connection investigators had come over the also involved in the attack Abdullah uçmak. In his apartment lists had been found with phone numbers from different people that are associated with the PKK, the safety precautions in Maslak Acıbadem hospital were increased where the singer is currently being treated. To protect Ibo, police officers are in civil and uniform posted on several floors.http :/ / http://www.deutsch-tuerkische-nachrichten.de/2011/03/47699/
Bb
The below shows the mafia wars between kurds and kurds and kurds and turkish. There is always a vendetta. You kill me and i’ll kill you and you kill me and i’ll kill you again …
It is said that famous singer Tatlises is a mafia boss, too. He is investing in Erbil (northern iraq) and some of his business went apparently foul.
The vendetta goes back to the 1990s. The National summed up the case this way: “According to press reports, Mr Ucmak used to work as an aide to Hasan Bora, who managed Tatlises in the 1990s. Shortly after Mr Bora and Tatlises parted ways in 1998, the manager’s office in Istanbul was attacked by gunmen. Mr Ucmak was injured in the attack, which he blamed on Tatlises, and he vowed to take revenge. “His blood has to flow as well,” the daily Radikal newspaper quoted Mr Ucmak as telling a television interviewer in 1998. Asked when the feud would end, Mr Ucmak replied: “Only God knows that. It will go on until the blood of Ibrahim Tatlises flows.” Mr Ucmak reportedly received monetary compensation from Tatlises after the office attack, but was not satisfied with the amount.”
http://middleeast.about.com/b/2011/03/26/the-emperor-ibrahim-tatlises-a-kurdish-turkish-sinatra.htm
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=the-tatlises-mafia-1998-02-08
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2011/6/turkey3237.htm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0brahim_Tatl%C4%B1ses
@BB – No, there is at least one other person here – not just you and the mirror!
I agree, the e-fit lookalike guy and the PKK connections all seem likely.
But, if he was one of the murderers, on whose behalf was he working that would explain the strange [non] investigation by the French? Why would the French police cover for a Kurdish criminal gang unless the trail led to somewhere embarrassing for the French State or other friendly state? (apologies if you have covered this and I have missed it)
Published on 6 Dec 2013
Lyndon LaRouche’s December 6th 2013 Webcast (not unrelated!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o85qhIpFYqo
Bleb
Good question. But i am just in a state to collect evidence.
We know that the mafia families were “ante portas” in chevaline.
We know that the same connections killed in paris several months later.
However, we dont know whether a kurd mafia killed members of another kurdish mafia or if iraqis killed kurds or if kurds killed iraqis or if turkish (MIT) killed members/supporters of a kurdish mafia.
Let’s face a rational scenario:
The kurds (havutcu, simsek, baybasin) are the number one smugglers between europe and kurdish territories in turkey, syria, iran and iraq.
If you want to bring something illegal in or out of one of these countries then you’re going to use the service of mr.baybasin in london, even then when you would be rich mr.X. or MI5 or Mossad.
Something went wrong in chevaline. We dont know what.
Maybe a transport went wrong and they did not want to pay the mafia?
We dont know.
Another scenario: Or else there was turkish MIT involved. Currently the turks are fighting side by side with the french and with the british in syria. The french and the british certainly would protect MIT.
However, that whole story will become solved only if we knew tge opponents of the Havutcu/Simsek/Baybasin PKK clan in the reported (by the french judge) “vendetta of Doussard”.
Only if we know the names of the havutcu vendetta opponents in doussard we’ll be able to understand what side killed whom and why?
At this time the Kurds could still be either the killers or perhaps even part of the chevaline victims.
Lets assume that Murat Sahin is still working for MIT.
Bleb
Just read the headline of the link below and you’ll know about why Shia and PKK are meeting in chevaline.
The local PKK family was actually victim in chevaline on sept 5th.
Like PKK victims later in Paris their friends and business partners were killed in chevaline by the same people.
Turks (MIT/grey wolves), French and British are fighting in Syria united side by side versus Assad, PKK and Shia Hezbollah on the other side. Now do the math! Ofcourse british and french intelligence will support turkish intelligence in all middle east affairs. They are NATO partners, too.
http://www.bilgesam.org/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=546:collaboration-between-assad-regime-and-the-pkk-terrorist-organization-&catid=77:ortadogu-analizler&Itemid=147
I’m still with you on this on Bluebird.
Would this then be a “local” feud …. but they picked on the wrong people ?
As in “people willing to all the way”.
Or some kind of PKK “in fighting” that spilled out in Chevaline ?
James
For a summary of facts check @total_recall_58 on twitter.
Here on cm everything is distributed and shared all over a huge place of many pages and posts and an collection of facts is hard to find.
Organising all the facts I strongly believe that on sept 15th PKK and friends are the victims but not the perpetrators. Like PKK was the victim in Paris several months later.
There are no doubts – studying the facebook pages of the kurdish PKK family from Faverges that they are top elite PKK (Baybasin clan, Simsek).
There are no doubts about that they had a vendetta with a local family.
No. Tgey did not pick the wrong people. Shia Hezbollah AND PKK both supporting Assad. Tgey are allies. Maybe an innocent meeting for something unrelated at Col d’Ire and by pure chance the perpetrators used the chance to get rid of Baybasin members.
Read “Baybasin London” and you’re going to understand what i mean.
Usually state sponsored professionals aren’t used to solve local private vendettas. However, if you can get rid of political enemies PLUS solve a private local vendetta at once, then you’ll have support by government and state officials PLUS the support of local families.
The Baybasin clan will not go to police. They will solve that matter “their way”. Of course it will be unknown if they are strong enough versus local people and french government, Turkey, Israel and NATO.
Now it’s your turn.
Sorry typo above
Sept 15 = sept 5
James
Read that link to understand about with whom the local Doussard family is dealing in their vendetta
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/mar/28/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
Just an example of the London Baybasin clan vendettas:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/26/contract-killers-drug-gangs-london
How did the local Doussard area vendetta with locals arise?
Protection racket!
Not unlike in London. PKK money collector Baybasin”Apo” – “Emperor” was sentenced to 22 years jail in Woolwich court.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/may/16/drugsandalcohol.drugstrade
Blue…
I think (it is a strong possibility) that we have some (if not all) of the “elements”. Lets face it, it’s a complex picture…and yet bizarrely it could be said that the “shooter” MAY BE known (one thing everyone would have thought impossible, even after a motive was found).
But how does it all “fit” together ?
Basically we could be trying to map a “South American drugs empire” together …along with the politics that goes hand in glove with that (and of course the links to terrorism and such). Except here, it’s in Europe (with origins in the “not so” Middle East).
“revolutionary taxes” ?
But this is Annecy. Not Tottenham.
Oddly (if we take common denominators. The SM/CS family and the JCT/LCT family are “local business” people).
Blue….
“Emperor was sentenced to 22 years jail in Woolwich court”.
Sorry to tell you this. He got out. And got 20.000 for his troubles.
A rumour was that he was also helping U.K. Customs, but I find that unlikely.
James
Protection racket could be the reason why the locals are quiet and dont speak. They are afraid. There were a series of sudden deaths and unresolved murder in that area. Perhaps people who did oppose protection racket or people who tried to solve the issue (local mayor, local police detective, etc.).
Locals are afraid of the clan. Therefore they might be afraid of talking to the media, too.
However, on sept 5th i guess that there was retaliation of locals with support of several government agencies. SAH was no member of the PKK clan but unfortunately for him he had some kind of a business meeting (Hezbollah-PKK) with the wrong people at the wrong place at the wrong time i assume. I dont think that any of the victims were an accidental victim. There was no coincidence. There was a plan like there was a plan in the connected Paris triple murder.