The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
From the same source:
“It is a prime tenet of Masonry that its assassins
come in threes. Masonic assassins are known in the
code of the lodge as the “unworthy craftsmen”.
Because Masonry is obsessed with the earth-as-
gameboard (tessellation) and the ancillary align-
ments necessary to facilitate the “game”Minutes after John Fitzgerald Kennedy was
murdered three ‘hoboes’ were arrested at the
railyard behind Dealey Plaza. No records of their
identities have ever been revealed nor the “iden-
tity” of the ‘arresting officer’. All that remains of
those few minutes are a series of photographs ”
“the alchemical
creation and destruction of primordial matter, the
first atomic bomb, occurred at the so-called
“Trinity Site”, located on the 33rd degree of
latitude). To this trident-Neptune site came the
“Queen of Love and Beauty” and her spouse”
“Anyone
recognizing the link between Masonry and Jewish
Kabbalism, a connection which might be termed
slave-Master, will note that a central dogma of the
Kabbalah is the principle of the Inverse Sephiroth
as personified by the Qlipoth or “Lords of ChaosIf one inverts the letters of the word “Avis” as
in the rental car corporation, one encounters the
“Siva”. Siva is Sanskrit for “happy” or “aus-
picious”. Siva is also the name of one of the gods
in the Hindu triad and in character represents
“become-death, the shatterer of worlds” as a
certain alchemist once said. The symbol of Siva is
the Lingam or penis. Siva, like Neptune and Satan
is usually pictured with a trident. “.
Just because interpretations and theories appear far fetched does not preclude the possibility of elements of truth. Beyond doubt the major disasters to hit the US were not as officially described. There is strong direct and circumstantial evidence of Jewish and secret organisation involvement of a treasonous nature. Once this is accepted nothing is too far fetched to be feasible. Chevaline shouts iconography and cover-up not inconsistent with those cataclysmic and horrific events.
Who was on board?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/12/trier-plane-crash_n_4585240.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cukt3%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D236017
Two crew…and 4 pax.
Elvis, JFK, Nigella Lawson and “who was that nutter that use to post on here before he died”.
RIP pax and crew.
If ya can’t “see”…. go elsewhere.
Revealed: This is a car used by the international drug mafia: BMW X5-Security
http://www.diplomatarmored.com/BMW-X5-Security-Vehicles.html
http://m.novinite.com/articles/157216/Police+Reveal+New+Details+in+Vienna+Car+Explosion
http://m.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=157179
BMW X5 Security version.
Even an AK47 cannot break tge windows of this car.
What if it was that car and Saad’s car who joint for a meeting? Saad’s car wasnt armored so the killer could shoot through the glass. The BMW X5 who met Saad deliberately was armored and therefore they could drive away unhurt. While driving away and turning while being shot at, they hit SM.
That would explain the missed shots (at the armored vehicle) and tim’s theory.
Whoever met Saad alive, they were sitting in that SUV.
French society on edge [Kenneth explains:locked in EMU without sovereign control on their own monetaryaffars, they can’t let austerity be offset by monetary easings like US,UK and Japan have done]
Money Quotation:
“A society that is angry, exasperated and on edge. A mix of latent discontent and resignation is being expressed through sudden eruptions of fury, almost spontaneously”.
[emphasis added]
French society on edge [Kenneth explains:locked in EMU without sovereign control of their own monetary affairs, they can’t let austerity be offset by monetary easings like US,UK and Japan have done]
Money Quotation:
“A society that is angry, exasperated and on edge. A mix of latent discontent and resignation is being expressed through sudden eruptions of fury, almost spontaneously”.
[emphasis added]
More news:
http://m.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=157264
One victim (the one who had been shot) was Austrian citizen with Bosnian/Serbian roots.
The other victim who was killed by the grenade was a German of Russian origin.
The BMW X5 was leased by a Bulgarian Georgi Stankov).
Both victims were sitting inside the parked BMW X5 at midnight when somebody shot the driver into his head twice. The other victim wasnt shot but he died when the grenade did explode. There wasnt yet revealed the type of the gun.
However, what is most likely is the matter of fact that the BMW X5 was a mafia car.
The mafia likes BMW X5.
Latest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10573241/Brother-held-for-French-Alps-murders-released.html
That is one in the eye for the French.
Let’s see if they make some tac au tac response.
A warrant for Bret Martin’s arrest perhaps 🙂
The Sky News version about the release.
Alps Shootings: Arrested Brother Released
Zaid al-Hilli will not be charged over the deaths of his brother and family in 2012 due to insufficient evidence.
http://news.sky.com/story/1195470/alps-shootings-arrested-brother-released
So where do the French and Surrey police go now?
BBC News today: French scaling back the investigation. EM still believes the cause resides in Britain and that if ZAH were to visit he would be arrested by the French police as chief suspect.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/french-alps-shootings-victims-brother-no-further-action
Well, there’s a surprise!
Thanks for the links, it must have been a nightmare for Zaid this last year to have this happen to his family and then have all the suspicion laid at his door by the french police ,I do think the british police have protected him to a degree thats what it looks like, not that I know much about such things but in Zaid shoes I would have been very nervous of going to France too not only because of the way the french police were but he may have been a target too .
Shadwell at Deadzone has posted an interesting google map link ,note the white MB behind the pharmacie, I am cross posting our british news links over there as well I hope no one minds.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Pharmacie+Schutz-morange,+Rue+Joseph+Martin,+Grignon,+France&hl=en&ll=45.651533,6.377113&spn=0.00756,0.013518&sll=45.650123,6.376491&sspn=0.00762,0.013518&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=45.651491,6.377213&panoid=nsMUChF1tOacwqWLgKKlqQ&cbp=12,237.54,,0,-4.29
@ Pink 15 Jan, 2014 – 3:52 pm
Thanks for posting that link (and thanks to Shadwell as well).
If you view the link fullscreen in streetview mode, you will see that immediately above the MC that there is a Sapeurs-Pompiers sign!
That would explain the “heard it over radionet”.
There is more text on the sign – “CPI” in red then a third line that I cannot be sure of – can anyone decypher it?
N.B. I had to move to the left of the pharmacie (as you face it) before I could actually see the MC.
It really cannot be this simple, they would have to be insane to leave the actual MC there!
Crossposting again Anonymous at Deadzone says its this type of bike ,I woudln’t know if it’s correct just passing on the info.
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/2335531/
The Guardian Sep 2013 mention the white motorbike has not been found.
“He said police had identified all other people and vehicles who were in the area at the time, but were still looking for a white motorbike and a dark-coloured 4×4 vehicle – possibly a BMW – that witnesses reported seeing.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/06/french-alps-shooting-victim-recording-brother
GIP
There is more text on the sign – “CPI” in red then a third line that I cannot be sure of – can anyone decypher it?
It says:- “Grand Arc” with a little swerve and a star suggesting its around the side of the building?
Hi Straw, yes CPI & capitals below which mean nothing to me,it looks as though the building is some sort of admin for the fire service ?
That car has its number erased but oddly above it [slightly to the left] theres also a sign which is erased.
Remember I mentioned that some police branch uses white motorbikes.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Pharmacie+Schutz-morange,+Rue+Joseph+Martin,+Grignon,+France&hl=en&ll=45.651533,6.377113&spn=0.00756,0.013518&sll=45.650123,6.376491&sspn=0.00762,0.013518&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=45.651491,6.377213&panoid=nsMUChF1tOacwqWLgKKlqQ&cbp=12,237.54
The pharmacy – well – it doesnt look extremely impressive, does it?
I dont think that they are an “extremely wealthy” family.
The blue sign says that the parking is reserved for an MD. Perhaps there is a MD working in the same house.
Following up the recent mafia killing in vienna:
The driver was killed by two shots in the head and one shot into his chest from close distance from outside the driver’s window (BMW X5 with Bulgarian plates). The second guy in the car was killed by a grenade.
The type of the gun wasn’t revealed as per yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3BacGYq2Ys
Best “media shifts” ever !
It’s all about “nine eleven”, but it’s great how the media “shift” the questions.
Back to Chevaline…. do we yet not get The French are French !
Mollier was having some kind of “affair”.
AND the “family” are “powerful” within “French politics…. ”
And we “know” what the “French” are like !
BB.
It’s a medical centre for orthopaedic & homeopathy too.
Reserved car parking is for the operatives.
See the sign to the right of the doorway.
BB.
I suspect that’s an osteopath,homeopath,plus a shop around the corner for selling medical equipment AND the pharmacy.
Looking at the number of reserved parking places in front, at the side & back,there’s quite a few members of staff.
If they also own the property that adds up to a fine sum.
The building in front of which the white BMW is parked belongs to the volunteer firefighters / first responders of Grignon
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2013/05/03/les-pompiers-volontaires-du-cpi-du-grand-arc-ont-effectue-un-exercice
I wonder whether the owner of that bike not only fancies police-style motorcycles but also police-style helmets?
OK I am reaching here, but who isn’t?
The thing is, I think that MC1 was monitoring SM, presumably to discover or confirm his extra curricular activities. If the MC on streetview is the one, then it was probably on behalf of one of the Schutz family (or maybe he was an admirer of Claire).
In support of this I would point out that MC1 was originally parked up at the second hairpin which appears to me to be a vantage point to observe the valley. Secondly, the rider spoke to the ONF with his helmet open.
I think that the French Police know this but for some reason do not wish to reveal it.
If this scenario is correct, perhaps the rider originally raised the alarm.
There may have been two separate things going on here, SM & SAH.
The owner of that white bike parked next to the pharmacy almost certainly knows the Schutzes, including Claire, given the close physical proximity to the pharmacy and given that she worked there for years. I consider that fact quite significant in and of itself, that a member of CS’ circle of acquaintances owns (or did own in June 2013, the date on which the Streetview images were taken) a motorcycle just like the one seen near the scene of the crime.
Grignon as the base of the mystery motorcyclist would also make sense for geographical reasons. Nobody saw that motorcyclist ride up the hill to the Martinet from the direction of Doussard / Chevaline in the north, but plenty of people should have seen him if he had done so. Thus, it is likely that he originally approached the Martinet coming downhill from the south – and Grignon lies south of the Martinet. Likewise, the motorcyclist later seen by the farmer Ducher was heading south over the mountains, in the general direction of Grignon.
Finally, I don’t know how the pompiers volontaires are organized in terms of their logistics, but, given that they are volunteers who have other jobs as well, I should expect each of them to carry a radio allowing them to be alerted in case of an emergency. Ideally, those radios should be interoperable with those of the gendarmerie, because those services need to cooperate quite closely. Thus, *if* the mystery motorcyclist were a member of the pompiers, he might have been plugged into the communications of the gendarmerie, enabling him to follow the manhunt for the mystery motorcyclist in real time, alerting him to checkpoints and so forth. This is pure speculation on my part, but it would explain how the mystery motorcyclist managed to vanish without trace.
I take your point “Good In Parts
16 Jan, 2014 – 12:25 pm” “There may have been two separate things going on here, SM & SAH.” It’s a reasonable possibility. Could even be a touch of “Kill two birds” (or four in this case!) with one stone”. However this does not explain a CONNECTION between the two. It has long been established that SM was not just riding past at inopportune moment or that SAH was not purposely targeted. Not only were both clearly targeted, both were physically TOGETHER despite there having been no semblance of an obvious connection other than possibly a common interest in cycling. Given the facts as we know them, the attitude to SM by the French – effectively a blatant lie! – that he was not a target and had been hit purely by accident, is with all the other misinformation, is highly, highly suspicious of the French role at least.