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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • katie

    Interesting to hear this guy is a ‘former’ policeman yet he was riding a bike the same as some French police still use….as I mentioned several times.

    At 48 years old surely he should still be working…. I’d like to know why he left the force , what is his employ now, is he working as a professional assassin,is he working for the French government ?

    Did Maillard know hence the retention of the photofit ?

  • katie

    Mochyn ,
    I think you are right there, the ‘hill billy ‘ description is much the same as the line the British use in ‘he was a ‘loner’.
    Always a put down in my view.

    The besmirching of Mollier… [money grabbing philanderer] is on the same level it’s a classic tactic to avert suspicion.

  • Mochyn69

    @Bluebird
    19 Feb, 2014 – 2:19 am

    Plaque commémorative (7ème BCA Plaque commémorative qui était sur le lieu de décès de l’Adjudant DEVOUASSOUX) – Photo : Oui[Ajouté le 2014-01-14 par Amicale DU 140 RIA.]

    Seems to relate to photos of war memorial plaques in the commune of Varces-Allières-et-Risset in the Isère department, all added on 14th January 2014 to the Memorial GenWeb website.

    A number of memorials have been added for members of the 7ème Bataillon de Chasseurs Alpins Quartier, (BAC) who evidently saw service in Algeria, AFN and Afghanistan amongst others.

  • Mochyn69

    Devouassoux Eric, né le 19 octobre 1965, maréchal des logis-chef.

    The maréchal des logis-chef corresponds quite closely to the US use of the rank of staff sergeant.

    The rank of maréchal des logis is used by the armoured cavalry, the artillery, the materiel, the commissary and the transport corps, all of the French Army, and by the Gendarmerie Nationale.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%A9chal-des-logis

  • bluebird

    let’s make a summary of what we know

    Originally he is grown up and was living in Chamonix with his wife Gisele. (The famous family Devouassoux is from Chamonix, too). That relates to the “mountain man” (= the famous Mt.Blanc and Mt.Everest mountain family Devouassoux). That is simply because today he does not live in any mountains but at the shores of the lake.

    Later he must have moved to Menthon St. Bernard where he was a police officer (brigadier chief).

    In November 2011 he is still working for police and he receives a medaille d’honneur.

    In Sept 2012 he still is a high ranked and honoured police officer.
    On Sept 7 2012 there is an interesting internet message posted by an Eric Devouassoux (need to research about why and if that is the same guy).
    There this same named guy refers to Gerard Devouassoux’s book by cooking a “souffle” and drinking wine. It’s a crazy message if he isn’t a cook. I still need to investigate before i am posting that message.
    http://www.priceminister.com/mfp/153337/gerard-devouassoux-le-souffle-de-la-montagne-bourget-jacques#pid=113872399

    In october 2013 he quits (??) police work at the young age of 47. Why?

    He still was a police officer at the time of the murder!!

  • katie

    BB.

    “There this same named guy refers to Gerard Devouassoux’s book by cooking a “soufflé” and drinking wine.”

    I’ve just asked a French contact if Soufflé is a euphemism for something,this is his reply:
    ‘soufflé = avoir le soufflé coupé (par la nouvelle) = amazed
    English ‘breath have breathless (by the new) = amazed

    Not sure if the ‘new’ is for news !

  • bluebird

    Thanks mochyn. I did not see that.

    So they still loved him half a year ago.

    Why did they stop loving him after August 2013?
    Why did he lose the job?
    The police did not know him?
    A police brigadier chief is a lone nutter?
    A “lone mountain guy” living at the shores of the lake, having a wife and three (now adult) children, one of them workung for police IOh yeahh ….
    They (police!) do not know what he worked/now works? (Unknown to police?)

    Is a highly decorated alpine military guy and a highly decorated police guy.
    WTF do they want us to tell in the media with that BS? Is Eric Maillaud lying again?

  • Mochyn69

    @Bluebird
    19 Feb, 2014 – 9:08 am

    The nominating body for the award of that Médaille des services militaires volontaires was the Direction générale de la gendarmerie nationale (DGGN).

    The Medal for voluntary military service is awarded to military personnel not in the full time regular army serving honourably part time in information, training and improvement of reserves, recruiting, military preparedness as well as activities within special associations

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_for_voluntary_military_service

    Does anybody else recall one of the investigators, presumably from the gendarmerie saying at one time they may be well be investigating one of their own?? I do, but I can’t remember where, when or who said it.

  • intp1

    Remember, they obviously don’t have much on this guy, hence all the caveats re. lack of connection and possible innocence and
    there are also many aspects that are hard to reconcile:
    * The length of time to interview a local who collects weapons, has weapons training and who’s phone was in the area during the murders.
    * This, based on the identikit which for some reason, was withheld for over a year, “to confuse the perpetrator”? why would he be confused? It certainly would confuse any potential witnesses, if the identikit is a true original piece of evidence.
    * The documented blatant refusal to properly investigate this case- from not opening the car for 12 hours to whisking Brett Martin out of the country through many odd examples of incompetence like being unable to secure Al Hilli’s phone records and a persistent blackout regarding SM

    Why would these be the case? if a lone nutter was simply waiting to be found?

  • Ar

    Municipal policeman in Menthon St Bernard is a nice job to have: lovely place.
    Besides tourist traffic jams in summers, parking considerations, safety of the small public beach, ownership of boats buoys on the shore, I guess the security of couple of rich residents hence comes high on the priorities of the job..
    Given that the village hosts summer residence for:
    – previous head of France Telecom (rumor is, the village is one of those that needn’t pay its telecom bills for years)
    – previous head of Alcatel, with the big hotel on the lake having been a training center for Alcatel managers for many years. (Alcatel has a military telecom branch)

  • bluebird

    Very very interesting. Read the title!
    http://lesdevouassoux.blogspot.com

    Extremely interesting guy:

    Served as director for TOTAL UK
    Total? Mr.X and french scandal? What a family!
    http://www.ccdni.com/director-olivier-devouassoux
    His current job:
    Mr. Olivier Devouassoux serves as a Director of Saudi Aramco Total Refining and Petrochemical Company.
    http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=153882841&privcapId=61207236&previousCapId=878660&previousTitle=PETRON%20CORP

    Their local company:
    http://www.electricite-devouassoux-technologies.fr/

    Francoise Devouassoux. Politician:
    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Francoise-Devouassoux/493326076
    http://ensemble-vivons-chamonix.fr/archives/332?lang=en

    What a family.
    One of theirs living in Oregon.
    Yann Devouassoux. I recommend watching his youtube account and his motorbike photo, the motor bike helmets, etc.

  • bluebird

    Check that guy once again !!
    What a family!

    Group VP Finance – Operating Subsidiaries chez Total S.A.Location
    Paris Area, France
    Industry Oil & Energy

    fr.linkedin.com/pub/olivier-devouassoux/42/894/b38

  • bluebird

    Note the date of the attack!!

    Saudi Aramco

    Aramco computers were attacked by a virus on 15 August 2012.[43][44] The following day Aramco announced that none of the infected computers were part of the network directly tied to oil production, and that the company would soon resume full operations.[45]Hackers claimed responsibility for the spread of the computer virus.[46] The virus hit companies within the oil and energy sectors.[47][48] A group named “Cutting Sword of Justice” claimed responsibility for an attack on 30,000 Saudi Aramco workstations, causing the company to spend a week restoring their services.[43] The group later indicated that the Shamoon virus had been used in the attack.[49] Due to this attack, the main site of Aramco went down and a message came to the home page apologizing to customers.[50] Computer security specialists said that “The attack, known as Shamoon, is said to have hit “at least one organization” in the sector. Shamoon is capable of wiping files and rendering several computers on a network unusable

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco

  • Mochyn69

    What a family indeed! This won’t be god news for them:

    10 H 26 : La famille et les proches de l’ancien policier municipal, en garde à vue depuis mardi doivent être entendus mercredi, a affirmé mardi une source proche de l’enquête. “Le proche environnement, c’est-à-dire la famille et les proches de l’homme placé en garde à vue, va être auditionné mercredi”, a expliqué cette source. Selon une source proche du dossier, l’homme a également été “réserviste de la gendarmerie de 2001 à juin 2013”, a expliqué une source proche de l’enquête. “Il n’est plus employé par la gendarmerie depuis sa radiation par la police municipale en juin”, a-t-elle ajouté.

    http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/02/19/tuerie-de-chevaline-la-justice-prudente-sur-la-garde-a-vue-d-un-ancien-policier

  • Mochyn69

    10 H 26: The family and relatives of the former municipal police officer in custody since Tuesday are to be heard on Wednesday, a source close to the investigation said on Tuesday. “The immediate surroundings, that is to say, the family and relatives of the man placed in custody, will be interviewed on Wednesday,” the source said. According to a source close to the case, the man was also “a gendarmerie reservist from 2001 to June 2013,” said a source close to the investigation.(sic) “He is no longer employed by gendarmerie since his removal by municipal police in June,” she added.

  • bluebird

    Why was he removed from police in june 2013 ???
    You arent removed from police without a BIG criminal reason.

    Deliberate leave from police? Why would one do this at this high age of 48? Nice pension expected as a police guy.

    Why will they interview the family?

    Who of the family will get an interview by police?

    Chamonix Politician Francoise?
    Hacker King “Hacktivity” and Swiss/Geneve Pirate Party leader Romain?
    Saudi Aramco and Total Oil Executive CEO Olivier?
    Eric’s wive Gisele?
    Builder Yann from Oregon who is a motor bike fan and a youtube fan?
    Young Comee Devouassoux who works for french police IT projects?
    Iranian bio-med and medical scientist Mojgan Devouassoux-Shisheban and her husband Giles?

  • bluebird

    August 15 2012
    Note the date coincidence.

    There is a lot of what we had discussed before and the date and the Devouassoux connection with Saudi Aramco and the Iranian connection of al Hilli and the 6 computers in al Hillis home and the hacktivity pirate party of Romain Devouassoux, etc.

    Did Romain uncover al Hilli as a hacker and the Saudis ordered Olivier to do the rest and to solve the problem? Olivier contacting Eric? However, Mollier should historically be on Eric Devouassoux’s side through the mountain friendship of the two families. Why was he killed then?

    Extremely interesting!!!!
    Devouassoux’s Saudi Aramco hack is pointing towards a deep Saudi-Iranian conflict.
    http://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/shamoon-saudi-aramco-and-targeted-destru/240006049

    A post signed by the Cutting Sword Of Justice said the attacks were against the “Al-Saud regime,” and that the Aramco hack was “the first step” in operations against what it considers “tyranny and oppression.”

    Symantec last week revealed its findings on Shamoon, a targeted attack that’s all about total annihilation of data, not theft like other targeted attacks. Symantec still won’t name the actual victim of the attack, only that it’s an energy-sector company in the Middle East. Meantime, Saudi Aramco last week announced that it had been hit by a virus that led to the shutdown of many of its internal systems. The company is Saudi Arabia’s national oil company and is considered one of the largest in the world.

    Meanwhile, just who the attackers are that have been posting and posturing on Pastebin claiming to be behind the Shamoon malware and to have hacked Saudi Aramco, has been debated. Were they pure hacktivists as they claim? Or hired guns for Iran, as Jeffrey Carr, CEO of Taia Global, believes?

    “I’ve heard speculation from more than one source in Saudi Arabia that the malware attack against Saudi Aramco’s network was an Iranian operation to discourage Saudi Aramco from increasing its oil production to compensate for Iran’s decrease in oil deliveries due to sanctions imposed on it by the U.S. and European Union. Iran warned Saudi Arabia against boosting production last January after the Kingdom’s oil minister pledged to boost production if there was a demand for more oil,” Carr wrote in a blog post today.

    Iran has been known to use its indigenous hacker population to run state-sponsored attacks in the past during Operation Cast Lead (Ashianeh Security Group). Other well-known and highly skilled Iranian hackers include the Iranian Cyber Army and ComodoHacker,” Carr says.

  • bluebird

    This text below was translated from the original Arab post.
    Is this the text Saad al Hilli was posting?
    Who is the “man in the middle” ?

    Here is what the Cutting Sword of Justice is threatening:

    According to media which we rarely believe, Saudi Aramco is thinking that the 15 aug attack was done by us but with a man in the middle helping us with different kind of info and that’s the reason why the head management of Aramco is still investigating.. Garbage investigation.What we’re going to do to prove our ability to do more? well, we don’t really need or even feel like proving anything to anyone and show them that we can, but here is a headline story:we are going to make it, net week, once again, and you will not be able by 1% to stop us.
    Date: 25 august 2012Time: 21:00 GMT
    That’s will happen for two reason:1- you’re brutal and selfish to harm any employee just for the sake of expecting.2- we do hate, hate a lot, arrogance.Be prepared for something you will see in your eyes and you will not be able to stop it.

  • bluebird

    http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/8300/malware/iran-suspected-for-the-attack-on-the-saudi-aramco.html

    According Carr, the Hezbollah, a Shi’a militant group based in Lebanon, is really close to Iran receiving financial and political support from government of Teheran. Hezbollah include in its ranks hackers maybe recruited to be involved in cyber operations like this.According to this Arabic website, up to 70 Aramco employees, including Lebanese Shi’a, are being investigated for involvement in the attack.

  • bluebird

    What had we heard about Saad? Strong anti-American sentiment?

    It is fitting like a fixed time code and it is fitting in connection with Olivier Devouassoux.

    http://www.defenceiq.com/cyber-defence/articles/decapitating-saudi-aramco-with-the-sword-of-justic/

    Strong anti-American sentiment was highly evident within the Shamoon code and its destructive path. The attacker embedded an image of a burning American flag within the code and used this image to overwrite critical system files on 30,000 Aramco computers, rendering them inoperable and forcing the company to replace them. Digital evidence shows that the image used by the attacker was uploaded to the Internet on November 4, 2008, which was the date of a United States presidential election. The author of the virus likely used the burning flag image to send a symbolic message to the Saudi government for supporting controversial American foreign policy in the Middle Eas

  • bluebird

    Well ….. looks interesting to say at least.

    The narrative surrounding the oil company attacks is also troubling. For example, an actual group claimed responsibility for the Aramco attacks, this time an “anti-oppression hacker group” called The Cutting Sword of Justice. And once again, these attacks were carried out with tools that are available to non-state groups. A Bloomberg investigation of the Aramco attack revealed that “The investigator said the malware destroyed computers by overwriting the master boot record that computers need to start up. That part of the virus, he said, was taken from an off-the- shelf product made by EldoS Corporation, a London-based security company.”

    http://turnstylenews.com/2012/11/16/opinion-iraq-run-up-2-0-how-the-%E2%80%9Ccyber-war%E2%80%9D-with-iran-may-lead-to-one-in-meatspace/

  • bluebird

    The hackers behind the Shamoon attack siphoned off data from a relatively small number of computers, delivering it to a remote server, the sources said. They later threatened to release that information

    Because the virus wiped the hard drives, it is difficult for Saudi Aramco to determine exactly what information the hackers obtained.An email address and password, which the poster claimed belonged to Aramco CEO Khalid Al-Falih, was posted on a website often used by hackers to show off their achievements, this time signed by the “Angry Internet Lovers”. No sensitive Aramco files have been uploaded on that site.Sources who spoke to Reuters said they were not aware whether the hackers had made specific demands, what they might have been or whether they were met.The sources would not say whether the suspected mole or moles are Saudi Aramco employees or outside contractors, or whether they accessed a workstation inside Saudi Aramco’s offices or accessed the network remotely.

    http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/07/insiders-suspected-in-massive-shamoon-virus-cyber-attack-that-wiped-30k-saudi-oil-company-computers

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