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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • Q

    Has anyone else been able to find former employees of Freescale Semiconductor who are now working for EADS Astrium Satellites? Specifically, I have found a product engineer, who I won’t single out here. How many more are there?

  • NR

    Is everyone aware that an airliner’s black boxes aren’t really black, they’re orange? Just repeated for the 105th time by media.
    #BLACKBOXESORANGE

  • bluebird

    Note that date and note the date of MH370 take off ….

    http://newswire-24.com/2014/03/07/4827/

    Ukrainian gold reserves loaded on an unidentified transport aircraft in Kiev’s Borispol airport.

    The ukrainian mafia knew that of course. Was the gold diverted to malaysia by the mafia and sold to china and the USA simply stole it back by diverting the plane to Diego Garcia?
    Or was the gold sold to china directly and the ukrainian mafia knew about on what plane that gold was heading to china?
    China is well known that they import gold on civilian airlines only.

  • Tim V

    This might be of interest:

    ” Swissair Flight 111 was known as the “U.N. shuttle” …
    the aircraft experienced an unexplained thirteen-minute radio blackout.

    Only 72 minutes after takeoff, the MD-11 crashed into the frigid waters of the Atlantic Ocean, breaking into over one million pieces and killing all 229 persons aboard.2 Ultimately, the destruction of the aircraft was the result of a truly unique sequence of events that involved defective wiring aboard the aircraft and adjacent flammable insulation, a faulty entertainment system, the Swissair flightcrew’s handling of the emergency (the result of inadequate training and a poorly written emergency manual), and possibly also external electromagnetic interference.
    …
    Interestingly, U.S. military operations in the Atlantic continue in a mostly unchanged manner, even though there is strong evidence that electromagnetic interference in almost precisely the same area has contributed not only to the crash of Swissair Flight 111, but also to the crashes of TWA Flight 800 and EgyptAir Flight 990.

    The plane carried a Saudi prince, a relative of the former shah of Iran and high-profile UN officials. Diamonds and gems that would be worth half a billion dollars today were also never found.
    The flight from New York to Geneva crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on Sept. 2, 1998, killing 229 passengers and crew.

    The plane carried a Saudi prince, a relative of the former shah of Iran and high-profile UN officials. Diamonds and gems that would be worth half a billion dollars today were also never found.
    …
    high levels of magnesium — a key ingredient in an incendiary device — were discovered in the cockpit area.
    …
    Notable victims A number of notable individuals died in this accident, including:
    Mahmood Diba, the cousin of Empress Farah of Iran
    Pierce J. Gerety, Jr., UNHCR Director of Operations for the Great Lakes Region of Africa, who was on a special mission for U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan to the Democratic Republic of the Congo to attempt to negotiate a peace accord with Laurent Kabila in an erupting regional war
    Brookhaven National Laboratory physicist Klaus Kinder-Geiger
    Joseph LaMotta, son of former boxing world champion Jake LaMotta
    Jonathan Mann, former head of the WHO’s AIDS program, and his wife, AIDS researcher Mary Lou Clements-Mann
    Former New York Times executive John Mortimer and his wife Hilda
    Saudi royalty Prince Bandar Bin Saud bin Saad Abdul Rahman al-Saud
    European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF) physicist Per Spanne, who had been working at Brookhaven National Laboratory since 1996
    Stephanie Shaw, daughter of Geneva-based Scottish entrepreneur, Ian Shaw
    Dr. Roger Williams, a top cardiovascular genetics expert and professor of internal medicine at
    the University of Utah.[25
    — End quote —” http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=8473.5;wap2

  • Tim V

    Some bloggers speculate that the gold, money and diamonds were not on board. Not a bad idea if you stole them beforehand. Magnesium as always provides an important clue. If the Picasso turns up …

  • bluebird

    On feb 28th china did request $ 3 billion worth of ukrainian gold reserves to be delivered to china as a security for their loan due to the political turmoil in ukraine. (Read below)
    However, the night of march 6th/7th masked men carried the ukrainian gold reserves into an unidentified airplane. Ukrainians insist that their gold had been transported into the USA.
    Where would they take the gold from that was scheduled to be stored in china? Sending them empty boxes or boxes with fake gold to china???
    Of course such an airplane must never arrive in peking!

    Quote
    Russian media have been reporting that China is seeking the return of $3 billion in loans. The reports, also picked up by the South China Morning Post, cite an unnamed Ukrainian official as saying that China has filed a complaint against Ukraine for reneging on a deal where $3 billion in loans from China would be repaid in corn exports from Ukraine. According to the official, Kiev only provided a little over $150 million of worth of grain to China.The original deal was signed in the fall of 2012. At the time, Ukraine’s agriculture minster, Mykola Prysyazhnyuk, told Financial Times that in return for access to $3 billion in loans, Kiev would export about 3 million tons of corn to China each year. Although China has in the past used a similar arrangement in oil-for-loans deals, the arrangement with the Ukraine was a first for China. The loan money was supposed to be mostly put back into the agricultural sector, including a $3 billion irrigation plan for the southern part of Ukraine.The Foreign Ministry of Ukraine issued a statement denying the reports that China is seeking a return of the loan money. The news release cited a meeting between Victor Mayko, Ukraine’s Deputy Foreign Minister and Chinese Ambassador Zhang Xiyun. Zhang reportedly “emphasized the absence of claims from official Beijing as to the implementation of this contract and the willingness of the Chinese side to continue its realization.” Zhang also told Mayko that “currently there were no problems between Ukraine and China that could negatively affect further development of the two states interaction.”China’s Foreign Ministry has downplayed the reports, with spokesperson Hua Chunying telling the press that “relevant reports are inconsistent with the facts.” However, she also said that China hopes “the Ukrainian side will ensure the effective implementation,” not exactly a full vote of confidence. Given the political turmoil in Ukraine, China is likely worried about the continuance of its grain imports from the Ukraine. But by the same token, the Chinese government would likely want to avoid adding to Ukraine’s troubles by asking for $3 billion to be returned. An Eastern European specialist at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences told the Global Times that China would never file such a claim in the midst of such political uncertainty.China’s food security strategy is a constant concern to Beijing, which must feed 1.3 billion people even while encouraging urbanization and facing the problem of polluted land and water. China’s leadership recently decided to relax its customary emphasis on grain self-sufficiency, allowing for more imports. The Financial Times reported that Chinas’ new guidelines for grains would “stabilize” grain production at around 550 million tons in 2020, 50 million tons less than the 2013 harvest.Rather than abandoning its emphasis on self-sufficiency, though, it seems China is changing the definition. A January Xinhua article on self-sufficiency in grain production mainly focused on the “key grain supplies” of wheat and rice, which are used for food, rather than grains like corn and soybeans that are typically used as animal feed. A leading government official predicted that China’s corn imports in particular would continue to grow.As China’s grain imports grow, its connection to Ukraine will also increase. Ukraine is one of the world’s leading exporters of grain, and is hoping to increase production in coming years. In 2013, Ukraine exported 18.5 million tons of grain, and hopes to more than double that amount, reaching 40 million tons by 2020. Ukraine’s plans for its agricultural industry, coupled with China’s need to increase grain imports, will make Kiev an attractive target for increased economic cooperation with Beijing.Provided, of course, that the political situation in Ukraine doesn’t continue to worsen. Recent reports are not optimistic. Should the political chaos substantially affect Ukraine’s crop production, it could have a major impact on global food supplies, and on China’s food security.

    http://thediplomat.com/2014/02/chinas-agricultural-deals-with-ukraine-in-jeopardy/

  • Tim V

    From http://inquiringminds.cc/was-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-redirected-to-diego-garcia a possible little connection to SAH?

    “Flight 370 had 20 employees of Texas based Freescale Semiconductors. It would be interesting to know what their latest projects were. It is unclear whether or not the company counted the NSA among its clients. To quote Wikipedia on the company,
    In the 1960s, one of the U. S. space program’s goals was to land a man on the moon and return him safely to Earth [Not Quite!]. In 1968, NASA began manned Apollo flights that led to the first lunar landing in July 1969. Apollo 11 was particularly significant for hundreds of employees involved in designing, testing and producing its electronics. A division of Motorola, which became Freescale Semiconductor, supplied thousands of semiconductor devices, ground-based tracking and checkout equipment, and 12 on-board tracking and communications units. An “up-data link” in the Apollo’s command module received signals from Earth to relay to other on-board systems. A transponder received and transmitted voice and television signals and scientific data.

    […….] and Motorola’s MPC5200 microprocessor deployed telematic systems for General Motors’ OnStar systems.

    […….] In addition, a recent ABI Research market study report states that Freescale owns 60% share of the Radio Frequency (RF) semiconductor device market.

    […….] Also in 2011, Freescale announced the company’s first magnetometer for location tracking in smart mobile devices.”

  • Tim V

    “Was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?
    http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/#more-1890

    It has now become fairly evident that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is not accidental. In fact, there is a strong possibility that the flight was commandeered to the US military base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. A bizarre “extraordinary rendition“?”

    It could fit your scenario BB I guess. What if the gold were heading to Beijing and was stopped by US? Do we know where MH370 had travelled before it set off on the doomed flight? Is there a transit connection to Ukraine?

  • bluebird

    Tim

    The gold was in the freight papers to be delivered to china to secure their $ 3 billion loan for ukraine as china did request in a meeting on feb 28th 2014 between the foreign minister of china and the new ukrainian FM. The gold went “officially” via Asia Pacific that is based in Hong Kong but has an outlet in Kuala Lumpur, too. All Chinese gold is imported via Asia Pacific.

    The question is whether or not the gold had been in the plane or if there were just empty boxes in the plane. How do you prevent that fraud to be detected? Exactly! You know that answer.
    This is another link confirming Q’s excellent find regarding Swissair 111 where we had the same situation.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.1051965/

    The ukrainian gold is somewhere else but not in that plane. I suggest that it had never been in that plane but empty boxes only. However, if it ever had been in that plane then that gold is already somewhere else.

    Who wanted to have that gold and who had a legal right for that gold?

    1st and foremost China as it was agreed to secure their 2012 loan of $ 3 billion with the ukrainian gold reserves.

    2nd Russia to secure the $ 2 billion ukrainian gas depths.

    3rd and new the USA and the IMF to secure their march 2014 loan to the new ukrainian government.

    Where’s the gold now?
    It was secretly shipped out of Borispol airport in the night of march 6th/7th.
    That fits with MH370 dates, too.

    http://newswire-24.com/2014/03/07/4827/

    The ukrainian gold reserves are 33 tons worth approx 1.5 billions.
    33 tons can be (theoretically) carried easily by a 777 as additional freight the more than there were only 229 passengers on board while it can carry 440. Alone that difference are 20 tons. IMHO the gold was or at least is not in that plane but the gold is somewhere else now.

  • Q

    As I said a few days ago:

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2014/03/13/missing-plane-sent-signals-to-satellite-for-hours

    Of course they had a satellite tracking system. Refer to my link a few days ago about the company that provides these systems to Boeing. And, like GPS systems in cars, that have been used by police to find missing vehicles even when they are not on a paid subscription by the owner, these systems can be used to locate missing aircraft, assuming they are still in one piece.

    Considering that Saad al-Hilli worked on the Boeing 787A, and that he worked for a satellite company, and that Freescale Semiconductor has a location in Toulouse, and that many of Freescale Semiconductor’s employees become EADS employees, and that Saad al-Hilli had numerous computers in his home (more than Joe Average, and more like someone with an interest or job in computers — perhaps computer security?), and that the company Saad al-Hilli was working for most recently has connections to China, and that Sir Peter Ricketts attends the Paris Air Show annually, and was hot on the scene at Chevaline when it happened, can we start to see the faintest image forming of why Saad al-Hilli, with all of his connections in addition to these, might have been a target?

    We might also want to consider Sylvain Mollier, when thinking of the dedicated foundry for the semiconductor business.

  • Q

    The possible link between Saad al-Hilli and Sylvain Mollier might not be what we expected. Looking for something that might apply in both of their fields, I found CMOS:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMOS
    http://oatao.univ-toulouse.fr/314/
    http://www.sri.com/research-development/remote-sensing
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389212004609

    So it is not inconceivable that a welder might meet with a mechanical engineer who is employed by a satellite company in the field of remote sensing.

  • Q

    Boeing and DARPA use this CMOS satellite infrared and visible guidance and navigation camera system:

    Satellite infrared and visible guidance and navigation cameras

  • Q

    “Reportedly, SSTL had been approached by — and rebuffed offers from — Germany’s OHB Technology and Thales Alenia Space, which are expected to compete with EADS Astrium for ESA contracts to develop Galileo’s space segment. Last December, OHB and SSTL announced an agreement to work together on the Galileo program, with OHB acting as prime contractor and supplier of the satellite platforms and SSTL as the navigation payload manufacturer.”

    From: http://www.insidegnss.com/node/616

    SSTL developed the navigation systems for the Galileo satellites. This would have involved CMOS sensors.

    http://www.cypress.com/?rID=39276

    Italian connection, FWIW.

  • Q

    This leads further down the rabbit hole:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELEX_Galileo

    “Organization

    The company is now focussed into three international divisions:[9]

    The Air and Space Systems division includes all airborne capabilities, technologies and products ranging from UAS and integrated mission systems to radar, electronic warfare equipment, avionics, simulation systems, target drones and space sensors, payloads and equipment.

    The Land and Naval Systems division comprises capabilities in the land and naval domains from the design of complex system architectures to tactical integrated systems, naval combat management systems, land and naval radar and situational awareness sensors and military communications infrastructures.

    The Security and Smart Systems division covers network infrastructure and systems architecture capabilities for homeland protection and the complex urban environment as well as air and vessel traffic management.”

  • NR

    @ Bluebird: Billions in gold either as cargo, or pre-stolen and not loaded on the plane, is sufficient motive for pirates, a Great-Plane-Robbery caper or governmental intrigue.

    In the first case the plane is landed somewhere, even on a short runway — 3000 feet — as there’s no need to take off again. In the latter it’s been deep-sixed to the bottom of the Indian Ocean as a Pentagon source claimed, “”There is probably a significant likelihood” that the aircraft is now on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.” (Convenient dumping grounds for things best-not-found, like OBL’s body — or not.)

    There’s no mention of gold in the MSM, even as a foil-hatted conspiracy theory, though they’ve reported several of those. Any D-Advisories in the UK? 🙂

    When asked why the recent info about satellite pings was withheld for almost a week, yesterday a Pentagon source initially blamed the Malaysians for withholding the data. Today, the Malaysians said they are now being provided with all data, implying they were not previously, and there’s no further implication in the media that Malaysia was the cause of delays.

    Aside from jokes about the intelligence community losing track of the plane because they were too involved monitoring webcams in citizens’ bedrooms, it’s simply not believable the US/China/Australia, at least, didn’t know what happened after the first day.

    The inordinate delay in releasing info can only be explained by international military/diplomatic maneuvering. For example, how likely is it China would release the wrong satellite pics by mistake through the official state media? Now China claims evidence (seismographic/acoustic ?) of a “sea floor” event near the same initial position. No comment from the US with it’s array of underwater detectors listening for subs.

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