The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Interesting in regards to MH370
You neither need suicidal pilots nor do you need terrorists on board for taking over an airplane that uses fly by wire systems like it is the 777.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/cybercrime-and-hacking/22036/hacker-uses-android-remotely-attack-and-hijack-airplane
@katie: “If it was taken by the Americans, it will be at Diego Garcia, relieved of its cargo & will shortly show up in pieces somewhere in the Indian ocean.”
It’s position to be triumphantly discovered by same. Wait for it. And James Cameron is already underway to the site with a submersible and Ultra High Def camera. Slowly, we approach the cockpit windows revealing party girls, vodka bottles and the remnants of evil tobacco cigarettes all floating eerily in the water.
Follow up the possible remote airplane highjacking
Quote:
This presentation will be a practical demonstration on how to remotely attack and take full control of an aircraft, exposing some of the results of my three years research on the aviation security field.
http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2013ams/hugo-teso/
Yes I did see someone post a Tweet on that find BB.
It’s a pity RR cannot speak freely during the investigation as they are the only ones who would know the plane had landed & got airborne again, but they are gagged.
No matter if the plane is re-flagged the engines usually send data every 30 mins apparently,.
NR,
Their reaction when the time comes will be crucial.
@NR: I’ll stick with Tom Clancy, because of the sinking submarine caught on radar that everyone thought was the Red October, but which was not. Doppelganger submarine radar signatures, doppelganger airline radar signatures?
I once worked in a place that had a street number “666”, but all that happened was that crazy people came in monthly on the day of the full moon and claimed that everyone in the building worked for the devil. Annoying, but not very exciting, really.
BTW, isn’t the typical ploy in subterfuge (aka what happened to Gareth Williams) character assassination?
Now the blonde in the MH370 story is not South African, either. She “lived in South Africa at the time” and “was returning from a vacation”:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-cockpit-companions/
How hard can it be for this blonde to decide on a country of origin, or a nationality? It’s beginning to sound like she’s a citizen of Fantasy Island. I’m wondering if her connection to Melbourne is kind of like Ben Zygier’s connection to Melbourne.
“I have no reason to make something like this up. It’s not malicious at all,,” she said. “I wouldn’t want to make something up that would potentially hurt people.”
So ironic, considering her lack of knowledge about where she’s from.
Why the South Africa connection to the blonde in the cockpit story?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nelson-mandela-israel-39-mossad-trained-south-african-135452451.html
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Mandela-not-trained-by-Mossad-agents-foundation-20131221
Who knows?
It might be more sensible to hunt for roos in Australia, but there are many Roos in South Africa, notably this one:
http://feraljundi.com/4324/somalia-vancouver-based-africa-oil-defies-al-shabab-and-drills-with-pathfinder-corporation-protecting/
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32188:us-involvement-in-counter-poaching-operations-possible-&catid=87:border-security&Itemid=188
Probably completely irrelevant and useless information.
Q 16 Mar, 2014 – 5:19 pm
“Now the blonde in the MH370 story is not South African, either. She “lived in South Africa at the time” and “was returning from a vacation”.
Interesting that at least in the CNN story neither of the girls’ age is given, either now or at the time of the incident in 2011. They’re only described as teens.
Closest I could find in a cursory search was: “Jonti Roos, who is who is currently living in Melbourne during a year-long stay in Australia … The pretty Australian, attended Hoërskool Kempton Park in Kempton Park, Gauteng, graduating in 2010 and also the University of Pretoria in Pretoria, Eastern Cape, South Africa.”
http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/tv/jonti-roos-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-co-pilot-fariq-abdul-hamids-hot-friend/
The SETUP for the MEDIA follows that already existing movie script. Of course the truth is different but i bet that they will present that to the general public as their truth:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100263838/could-a-four-year-old-thriller-hold-the-key-to-unlocking-the-mystery-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-370/
As the story of MH370 unfolds, becoming more mysterious by the day, I keep being reminded of a thriller I read four years ago. Bolt Action, a novel by Charlie Charters, is set on board exactly the same plane – not just a Boeing 777, but a 777-200ER. In addition, the plane belongs to the national carrier of a Muslim state, though in Bolt Action’s case it’s Pakistan not Malaysia.The thriller poses the question: What if a plane is hijacked but no one can regain control because the cockpit door is locked? Since 9/11 all passenger jets have bolt armatures fitted to the cockpit door (the Bolt Action reference in the title). The door remains locked during flight and it’s virtually impossible for anyone to get into the cockpit unless the pilot or co-pilot chooses to open it. The locked door is designed to withstand a hand grenade being detonated right outside, a 9mm clip being fired into it at point blank range – even an axe attack. In Bolt Action, the terrorist is a member of the cabin crew, which allows him to access the cockpit where he poisons the pilot and co-pilot, and then bolts the door. The flight in question is from Manchester to New York, but the hijacker has no intention of landing the plane. Rather, his aim is to force the US Air Force to shoot the plane down, martyring everyone on board and advancing the cause of global jihad. The main action of the novel concerns the efforts of Tristie Merritt, an ex-special forces soldier, to get into the cockpit.
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Bluebird
16 Mar, 2014 – 8:01 pm again and again we see the line between literary creativity and practical application fudged or replicated. It’s almost as if spooks have no imagination of their own or need to revert to classical or fictional iconography to provide a sort of emotional crutch.
The reality (!) today is that there is none. We are wholly dependent on an electronic “reality” that the majority accept at face value without challenge. Subterfuge has been employed from earliest times. It is the lesson of the Trojan Horse. The problem is that it is today far more sophisticated. The message comes to us via a medium over which we have no control. Both event, its replication and transmission are all subject to manipulation and only detailed examination may give rise to doubt that what is presented is accurate.
Take for example the 1969 moon landing. There is good reason to believe it took place. For example the film taken through the landing craft window appears to accurately reflect the topography of the moon surface. However by the same token, I have been persuaded there was a parallel studio mock-up by the mere fact of variation of shadows that could ONLY be produced by a studio light and COULD NOT have been produced by sunlight. This but only one of the tell-tale signs.
There is a two way street in America between the creative arts and dark arts. Sometimes the former takes from the latter and vice versa. It was a feature of Chevaline you will remember, all the main “actors” reading from the same “script” that the scene replicated a cop show.
Even the 9/11 planes cannot be guaranteed to be as the video appears when tested against scientific constants. How can the visual of an aluminium nose-cone of a plane re-emerging through the opposite side of the south tower having apparently passed through a network of steel beams thicker than armour plating be possible? Simply put it defies all logic and physics. What we see must be a lie. If a lie the image must have been modified.
Once we accept all the other lies, it is not a difficult concept to accept. Once we have accepted the principle that the US Government lies, it is much harder not to be sceptical regarding anything put out about significant events such as MH370.
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Inquiring Minds has this plus. Could be something in it.
“UPDATE: Exact logic sequence for proving the U.S. air force hijacked the Malaysian airlines flight.
1. Absent an awacs type system which can precisely monitor a received signal and spoof a return signal (or phase cancel it) you cannot disappear a non stealth aluminum skinned plane from ANY radar system. After vanishing from civilian radars, it remained on military radars that would work better against AWACS. That pretty much says it all.
2. Iran is an ally of Russia. Russia has Awacs type systems, but would not try to frame up Iran in a terror plot with a fake passport story supported by idiotically faked photos. Russia did not do this.
3. China and Malaysia also have Awacs type systems. Since it was a Malaysian plane flying with Chinese engineers, it is safe to rationalize out that neither China nor Malaysia did this.
4. Though the engineers on the plane also worked with stealth technologies such as Awacs, it takes a huge UFO shaped antenna to make such systems work, and Malaysian passenger jets do not have them as a standard feature. This was not a stunt played by Freescale Semiconductors.
5. Israel wants war with Iran, and the CIA hatching a terror plot with horribly faked photos stands in the evidence pool against the U.S. air force, which is their sex slave.
6. The obvious motive was military, and a real tie in was the fact that the plane disappeared from civilian radar while at full cruising altitude, but not the military radars. In this case the air force had to choose which radar they would spoof with Awacs (there is extreme difficulty with spoofing more than one system simultaneously unless there is a lucky alignment of signals) and they just hoped the military would not catch on. ONE PROBLEM, the Malaysian military was not as inept as the Air Force thought. PLAN FAILURE.
7. The Iranian terror plot fits the logic tree well. Since the photos were obviously faked, WHO WOULD DO THAT? WHO WANTS WAR WITH IRAN? No brainer there.
8. The cell phones are ringing, and the only organization in the world that can say where they are is the NSA. WHY THE SILENCE?”
http://inquiringminds.cc/malaysian-airlines-flight-377-awacs-hijack-proven
….and this from same source
“So here we have two countries, Malaysia and China, with a top flight electronics engineering firm, Freescale semiconductor, and 20 missing engineers on a vanished plane. I’d say this was probably a military takedown by the United States. And I’d bet the plane was remote hijacked and flown to a runway somewhere. THAT is why the cell phones still ring and you can bet the black op NSA knows exactly where they are. All the modern planes can be taken over via remote, they all have back doors now and the NSA is there only to rape and rob you, they are NOT your friends, you will NOT be told where this plane is.
The plane vanishing from radar had nothing to do with the plane’s electronics going dead, it most likely had a LOT more to do with an AWACS plane making it vanish from radar and taking it over. AWACS can do that. And if the plane’s electronics went dead that would NOT make it vanish from radar, I don’t know where all the stupidity on this topic evolved, MYLAR BALLOONS HAVE NO ELECTRONICS, AND THEY SHOW UP ON RADAR CLEAR AS DAY. AIRPLANES DO NOT NEED TO HAVE A TRANSPONDER FOR RADAR TO WORK AT ALL. THE TRANSPONDER IS ONLY FOR TELLING GROUND CONTROL THE NAME OF THE AIRPLANE. DEAD ELECTRONICS ON A PLANE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BEING ON RADAR. if you read an article saying the plane vanished because it’s transponder switched off, run from the writer as fast as your brain can move, that writer is either too stupid to pay attention to or fake.”
original article here I believe:
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/jimstonefreelance-reporter-contributor-580-last-hour-5-949-last
This article suggests only the US would have the AWACS capability to interfere with transponders and radar. It appears that the plane never did “disappear” as first announced to the NE of its departure point. Also that there are at least FOUR distinct phases of identification.
* The first when normal communication was maintained by pilot and transponder until both ceased;
* The second as it was plotted by civil and military radar for perhaps an hour after “disappearing”
* the third for perhaps a further three or four hours tracked by at least Malaysian MILITARY radar
* a further period, probably until aircraft crashed or landed identified by satellite AND more importantly by Boeing/RollsRoyce in relation to automatic engine/flight data. This might have been overlooked the ex-NSA man claims and has given the game away.
All these phases that must have been known by the Malaysian authorities from the beginning, proves deception from the beginning for what ever reason.
The ex-NSA source above suggests two or three possible motives for the operation:
1. interception of the plane to prevent China obtaining critical information/technical assistance from the teams of (defence/computer)
experts or other material on board;
2. to build a case of terrorist hi-jack implicating most likely Iran, which if linked to either a crash or other outrage, would influence public opinion against Iran and in support of military attack;
3. to create increased tension in the region particularly between China and Malaysia.
He suggests this was a plan hatched between America and Israel to rachet up the Iran stakes. The hijacker individuals photographed as per 9/11 with photo-shopped inter-changeable legs!!! and the Australian/SAfrican/Israeli women and targetting of the pilot and co pilot shouts CIA?Mossad standard implicating balls-up.
The fact that RR is involved, doing very nicely at the moment thank you, complicates things. Does it play a straight bat or not. Where does BOEING stand? Who is twisting who’s arms and what pressure is being brought to bear to toe the line. Does Britain go along with it or call it a day of supporting big brother Sam and little cousin Abraham particularly after the recent “very successful” Cameron trip. And in the light of MH370 how much is Britain in the know or implicated in the Israeli plans for Iran?
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Another movie plot.
Has anyone considered asking this team of experts for help in finding MH370? Some of them worked for Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd., or SSTL.
http://www.garada.unsw.edu.au/key.html
Let the smears begin. The geezer spooks and their media friends can’t get their minds out of the mid-20th-century. Don’t they risk alienating the LGBT community, important in the propaganda war against Putin?
“Capt Zaharie has “liked” videos by Ibrahim posted on YouTube. Ibrahim was sentenced to five years in jail on gay sex charges on March 7, provoking widescale condemnation across the country.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-3248001
“Capt Zaharie was a keen supporter of Malaysia’s pro-democracy opposition party, whose leader Anwar Ibrahim was sentenced, again, last week to five years in prison on sodomy charges.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10701706/MH370-pilots-calm-last-words-said-after-plane-seized.html
“Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a father-of-three, was said to be a ‘fanatical’ supporter of the country’s opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim – jailed for homosexuality just hours before the jet disappeared.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582146/Caught-CCTV-Pilots-doomed-Malaysian-Airlines-flight-walk-security-final-time-off.html
“Britain’s Daily Mail on Sunday, citing police sources, reported that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, was an “obsessive” supporter of Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, who was sentenced to five years in prison on a charge of sodomy just hours before the Malaysia Airlines plane took off.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/16/pilots-become-focus-malaysia-airlines-investigation/
“Internet posts by Shah, 53, revealed he is an admirer of Ibrahim, a People’s Justice Party leader who was sentenced to five years in prison on sodomy charges that supporters call bogus shortly before the March 8 flight.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-pilot-t-shirt-fuels-talk-hijacked-flight-article-1.1723724
No further info found on the “teens” Jonti Roos and Jaan Maree, the allegedly Australian citizens living in South Africa.
“In fact, almost no country anywhere uses the lightning fast, easily accessed Interpol database of stolen and fake passports. The US does, and the UK and the United Arab Emirates and … er, no one. It is a huge security hole for terrorists, and a seriously friendly helping hand to human traffickers.”
http://www.bangkokpost.com/lite/topstories/400092/the-big-issue-passports-for-sale
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@Kenneth Sorensen 16 Mar, 2014 – 9:49 am
No MSM or even conspiracy pages have suggested the aircraft surreptitiously took on additional fuel in Kuala Lumpur as you reasonably proposed. Everyone is assuming the outer search limits based upon fuel to Beijing, plus an hour or two.
Another possibility is the plane landed somewhere and refueled. On Friday, two pilots who flew 777s said the shortest runway for landing was 3000-3300 feet, longer for takeoff depending on load. Sunday, the consensus of all TV experts shifted to 5000+ feet for landing. Why the change?
I agree NR, besmirch a character & make him a patsy, they tried it with Zaid.
Also what happened to the, ‘mumbled message’, ?
This morning it’s reported that the pilot said ‘all right goodnight’ in a ‘clear calm way ‘ !
Thanks for the link Tim, although I’m not that technical, it says exactly what I thought was so obvious.
This story is bent & changed daily just like the Chevaline story.
This may seem unrelated, but it could add credence to the official story they are trying to weave.
http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/counterfeits615121.html
NR
The minimum length of the runway depends on the weight of the plane both for takeoff and for landing. We dont know its weight because no journalist was clever enough to ask for freight/cargo and for amount of fuel in any of the many press conferences so far. D-notice?
This is a carbon copy of the chevaline press releases.
The pilot is the gov ranting muslim character and tech freak like SAH who was such a nice guy to his friends, just like SAH, while all passengers are the poor victims (like SM).
And then you simply release confusing and wrong messages to the media bit by bit everyday, in order to move their story into an already previously scripted direction.
Once there is a contradiction and somebody is going to question that contradiction publicly, then their script is going to be updated as if they never had said the opposite.
News:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582015/Is-missing-Malaysian-plane-world-s-CYBER-HIJACK.html
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Israel is unsynchronized with US Bottom-of-Indian-Ocean story and believes plane was hijacked and hidden.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/03/16/Israel-Prepares-for-Attack-by-Hijacked-Malaysian-Plane
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-el-al-expert-iran-likely-involved-in-mh-370/
Or — Israel hijacked and hid plane, will stage an attack on Israel, shoot down, blame Iran, retaliate.
Or — Flat Earthers finally proved correct and plane fell off edge of the world.
FAA warning 5 months ago regarding cyber hijacking of 777-200.
What a coincidence! Just another coincidence.
https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/18/2013-27343/special-conditions-boeing-model-777-200–300-and–300er-series-airplanes-aircraft-electronic-system
On August 21, 2012, Boeing applied for permission to change the equipment to be installed as part of an onboard data network system upgrade on the 777 series of planes.According to information listed in the Federal Register the existing “data network and design integration may result in security vulnerabilities from intentional or unintentional corruption of data and systems critical to the safety and maintenance of the airplane.”The bottom line, according to language in the Federal Register, “The integrated network configurations in the Boeing Model 777-200, -300, and -300ER series airplanes may enable increased connectivity with external network sources
This may enable the exploitation of network security vulnerabilities and increased risks potentially resulting in unsafe conditions for the airplanes and occupants.”
ADB-S and ACAR are among systems on the plane that authorities have acknowledged were possibly compromised in some way.
@katie 17 Mar, 2014 – 8:36 am
“I agree NR, besmirch a character & make him a patsy, they tried it with Zaid. Also what happened to the, ‘mumbled message’, ?
This morning it’s reported that the pilot said ‘all right goodnight’ in a ‘clear calm way ‘ !”
I recall the mumbled message was reported by another pilot who had been asked by Vietnamese Air Traffic Control to try and contact MH370. There’s been no further reporting on that.