The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
The Telegraph already decided to pull the 9/11 script from the closet for all the sheep.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10700652/Malaysia-Airline-MH370-911-style-terror-allegations-resurface-in-case-of-lost-plane.html
@Bluebird: If you haven’t seen it, this is from another Craig Murray discussion.
“kashmiri 17 Mar, 2014 – 10:22 am”
“There is a word going on among commercial pilots that the plane carried a cargo of 10 metric tons of gold. A Polish airline pilot gave a press interview a few days back and confirmed that this is what pilots are hearing informally. He also said the procedures are such that the pilot learns about the cargo only when signing off at the point of departure, so planning ahead would be very tricky without the involvement of someone above.”
“In this context, some people point towards the Malaysian transport minister who issued contradictory statements which were in odds with those being issued by Malaysian army and police and seemed to direct the investigations in the wrong direction. That’s of course only speculation. But engine failure, terrorism and planned suicide can already be safely ruled out IMHO.”
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/vanishing-plane/#comment-446484/
Most of the MSM are now using as their leading pics two which make the pilot and co-pilot especially unattractive, deranged or sinister, when there are many others from which to chose. Recall the Zimmerman/Martin affair, where they persisted in using a photo of a much younger and cuter Trayvon contrasted with a sinister George?
@Bluebird: Another valuable cargo is heroin, something not much mentioned. It’s value is approx. $175,000 per kilo (from the DEA price book – likely exaggerated) while gold is only $40,000 per kilo.
O, NR – don’t get us started with DEA and Heroin and The Zionist Criminal Network . It brings memories of the Israeli art students which prior to 9/11 was trying to infiltrate DEA’s offices, as well Bollyn’s thesis [Chapter II (page 47 in the downloadable PDF) that Zionists long have been engaged in Drug trafficking from South America, and he even launches the controversial theory that concerns for drugs was the reason for the occupation of afghanistan, since Taliban had banned all growing of Opium. It is also well known — and somethinmg that previosly have been discussed on here — that Zionists control the international trade in ecstasy, which is doing so much damage to our young kids.
It’s a very good expression that Bollyn has found – The Zionist Criminal Network. It is something they don’t like, because it equates Zionism with Criminality. It is powerful propaganda, which we can employ to tease Israelis, with the ultimate aim of one sunny day getting this Criminal state shut down. And it will be shut down due to the crimes that its leaders have committed,- and it calls itself a democracy, which means that its people, who have elected them, are complicit too.
Until it is shut down, we will tease its inhabitants with this reference, and everytime we come across them we will make them understand in no uncertain terms that they are unwanted in the company of all honest men and women.
Tim V
17 Mar, 2014 – 10:52 pm
There’s the rub Tim, because the pinging does NOT mean the plane was in the air.
It’s now established that the pinging will continue for as long as the plane has power, that means auxiliary power on the ground too.
Flying time ‘could’ have been two hours to DG after they turned, the middle hours on the ground & then the plane airborne again?
Instead of looking at the wider circle I’m thinking of something closer, once cargo had been unloaded OR something/one taken aboard, are the rendition flights finished,there were many & the CIA were/are very active in that area ?
They could also have gone a lot further if they picked up more fuel at DG….I believe the pinging would stop when flying over large expanse of sea.
Take a look here & see the closer flying times from DG, particularly Bangladesh.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=932
Remember the US are still trying to add drones to their base at DG.
Bollyn thinks that Israel is directly implicated in 9/11. While this is fascinating,- and certainly welcome as a contrast to how the mainstream media portarys the situation – and many of his carefully researched information relating to Israelis in the aircraft business in the US and the like is ceratinly interesting in itself,- I’ve never been prepared to go that far.
I think Israel’s intelligence services knew what was going to happen, and one can discuss if its not a criminality that they did not inform the US authorities. From Israel’s perspective it was enormously important to get the US directly involved in fighting its enemies, and it has since 9/11 gained ‘a new lease of life’, thriving and spinning money and businesses in providing info about all sorts of radical islamists to all the worlds intelligence services, and selling surveillance equipment all over the world.
A country which always have considered itself to be in a state of war is undoubtedly prepared to go to great lenght, also lenght that people like us living in peace are not prepared to consider. But I still hesitate to go along with the notion that they would actually kill 3,000 people on 9/11 to achieve their aim of getting practically the whole world to join its fight, and in this way get a new lease of life.
But lets get a fair trial, as used to happen whenever large amounts of people gets killed in a criminality. But we’ve never had that,- and that very suspicious. Bollyn documents how Jewish lawyers, law enforcement officials and judges time and again have shelved any investigation into thoise who knew about what was going to happen. It would be fair to procecute these people, because no matter if Israel had an existential interest in 9/11, it’s not fair to kill close to 3,000 innocents in the process, – not to mentions the hundred of thousands of innocents who hace died in the wake of 9/11 in wars in Afghnaistan in Iraq, and even Palestine and Lebanon, where Israel used the guise of the global “war on terror” — and its new found self confidence .. to clamp down on Palestinians and Lebanese.
Sorensen
Although i am not really happy with the israel link, i am afraid that i’ll have to agree here.
Particularly the statement that the stolen passports had been used before for “nightclub dancers” in northern china (translate this with the words “gay male prostitutes”) is another confirmation (for me) that the passports were used by mossad multiple times.
We know as a matter of fact that mossad was using fabricated EU passports for crimes and we know as a matter of fact that mossad was using prostitutes (both male and female) for crimes, assassinations and espionage before.
Another warning is blinking when i read israeli newspapers regarding passenger Nikolai Brodskii from Irkutsk.
Some headlines in israeli news:
Chabad Jew,
One of the best reknown good jews in irkutsk.
Irkutsk Rabbi is crying.
Brodskii family is a traditional ukrainian jewish family who did so much good for the poor.
Grandfather built a synagogue in kiev.
Elite scuba and deep water diver.
One of the best divers in the world.
Scuba diving instructor and deep water diving instructor.
Just returned from a training camp in indonesia/Bali where he had been with 9 fellow divers from the baikal sea (why had they not been on the plane?).
Then israel media blaming iran for the mh370 plot.
Now the telegraph pulling the 9/11 script.
And then the gold.
Sorensen, here i am 100% with you. This smells like mossad and israel.
One thing i forgot regarding brodskii.
http://svaldiving.com/
The website of his diving club had been pulled from the web completely after mh370 went missing. I could find sone old versions in the wayback machine. However, that website did always exist before because there are links of diving club reviews on the web (google) pointing towards exactly his website domain.
But it was gone after thr crash.
Now it re-appeared like a ghost with a totally different format and much more professional looks and layout than it had been on the wayback machine before.
That is making me thinking.
What did they have to hide from nikolai brodskii’s original diving club website?
@Q: Re Freescale Semiconductors. It’s a rule with almost all companies that key personnel are not allowed to travel together. Not only executives, but hard-to-replace tech people too.
Here we have some 20 people on the same flight, many of whom are allegedly top engineers.
DM Headline is Daughter Flees Australia. As in a criminal fleeing. “Aishah Zaharie, the missing captain’s daughter, lives in Melbourne and has a graduate degree in architecture from Geelong’s Deakin University.”
“But Aishah has since returned to her family home in an upmarket Kuala Lumpur suburb, which is just 15 miles from the airport.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583057/Captain-Zaharie-Ahmad-Shahs-daughter-Aishah-lives-Melbourne-fled-Malaysia.html
Yesterday the story was the captain’s family mysteriously moved out of the house the day before the flight. Note another Melbourne connection.
Remember the Zev Barkan Mossad assassin story that was involved in stolen passports in Thailand!
@Katie: “Reports of another pilot contacting MH370 have been discredited.” They don’t explain why.
“Authorities deny that five other passengers checked in for the flight, but did not board, stating the pax were actually no-shows who never checked in, and that no baggage was loaded for these five pax.”
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other-asian-australian-south-pacific-airlines/1558464-mh-370-kul-pek-missing-search-operations-ongoing-please-see-wiki-70.html
NR.
Once again confusion about that;
“Yes there are issues about passengers that did not fly on the aircraft. There are five of them,” Mr Rahman said.
“All baggage of passengers not flown on that particular morning was removed from the aircraft.”
http://www.news.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing-desperate-search-for-wreckage-and-clues-two-days-after-it-vanished/story-fndir2ev-1226849847203
It’s amazing what Twitter produces, this date could be significant & the distance is only 460 miles from Diego Garcia;
‘Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a “low flying jumbo jet” on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
Whilst the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet, carrying 239 passengers has left the whole world in bewilderment, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a “low flying jumbo jet” at around 6:15am on March 8.’
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062
NR
Thanks for the daily mail link.
What i find intriguing in this very emotional and professionally made video (mossad?) is the title song.
Wizard of Oz
Girl from Kansas …. you knoe that story, do you?
Kansas? I remember a chinese family claiming in the early days that the mobile phone of their son was located in kansas ….
Kansas ….
I dont trust these videos.
Following the hints given to the media.
Are we perhaps talking about an OZ experiment here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_of_Oz_experiment
In the field of human-computer interaction, a Wizard of Oz experiment is a research experiment in which subjects interact with a computer system that subjects believe to be autonomous, but which is actually being operated or partially operated by an unseen human being.
I suggest to consider the mossad links and that video. This is a professionally made video released at the right time.
I am also intrigued by the melbourne links.
Everything is fitting together in melbourne.
@Bluebird 8:59 am: Melbourne’s now-famous female “Jaunty Ruse” (perfect name for an Austin Powers/James Bond fembot/girl) could possibly be included in that category. The Ben Zygier saga opened our eyes to what goes on in Melbourne.
Divers would be handy if a plane crashed into the sea carrying valuable or dangerous cargo.
Today’s news on the radio was that the U.S. is claiming the pilots reprogrammed the autopilot. Do they mean that the pilots entered coordinates and at some point re-entered new coordinates, or are they blaming the pilots for hacking the computer? Ahem, FADEC systems have a back door. It’s kind of like the diagnostics system on cars, where the mechanic can get into the system but Joe Average driver cannot. Look at what happened with one automotive company:
http://www.autonews.com/article/20131009/OEM11/131009855/toyota-speed-up-defect-caused-death-injury-lawyer-tells-jury
There are also such things as electronic warfare planes. Ex-colonel Russell Williams used to fly CC-144 Challengers on electronic warfare and coastal patrol missions. One site accused him of flying such a mission on 9/11, but they had no proof. Recall, if you will, the sex and murder scandal that sent Williams to jail.
To no one in particular: It is intriguing that the Sukhoi jet that crashed into the volcano in Indonesia also flew lower than it should have, and the pilots were said not to be aware that they were close to a volcano. Russia then accused the U.S. of bringing the plane down to eliminate the competition for commercial airliners in the same size category.
A company that has worked closely with SSTL has a proposal to find MH370:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Canadian+firm+offers+long+shot+possibility+Malaysian+Airlines/9628314/story.html
http://www.spaceref.ca/news/viewpr.html?pid=37736
A tale of rendition and the Slovak mafia in the Seychelles:
http://seychellesrealitytoday.blogspot.ca/2013/09/seychelles-uses-extraordinary-rendition.html
According to one comment, the Russian and Chinese mobsters are also doing business there.
I remember reading this story back when we discussed rendition with regard to the Chevaline story:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/08/special-report-britain-rendition-libya
Diego Garcia, Seychelles, etc.
It’s worth noting that Sir Peter Ricketts had a history with Jack Straw. Example seen here:
http://downingstreetmemo.com/rickettstext.html
@PhilPalmer on the Vanishing Plane thread
17 Mar, 2014 – 11:04 pm
re: Diego Garcia
This from today’s Telegraph:
“12.46 Intriguing new line from The Malay Mail Online.
Police scouring Capt Shah’s flight simulator – which he installed in his home – have found five Indian Ocean practice runways.
One is in the Maldives.
One is on Diego Garcia.
The other three are in India and Sri Lanka.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10704769/Malaysian-Airlines-MH370-live.html
Flashback to the passengers on this fictional plane:
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/01/adler-cracks-the-whip-sherlock-a-scandal-in-belgravia
It’s fiction. This is real:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/courtney-love-claims-she-may-have-found-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-picture-2014183
Celeb solves it all by using satellite images, or not.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4417712-thailand-shares-radar-data-on-plane-that-might-be-flight-370/
Why Thailand withheld information: sure, that sounds reasonable.
Thanks for this link to the Telegraph, Mochyn. It is very interesting
@Bluebird @Q
“The Wizard of Oz” also figures big in MK-Ultra programming for mind control — Manchurian Candidates. That leads, of course, to the CIA, old-timey Nazis, Operation Paperclip, and our old friends The Illuminati.
(Coincidentally Craig’s latest discussion is “The Playing Fields of Eton”. Commentors mention Harvard, Yale and the Illuminati Skull & Bones club with members GW Bush and John Kerry.)
“Somewhere Over the Rainbow” is also the gay national or international anthem, esp. the original version by Judy Garland, uniting the gay community under the Rainbow Flag.*
It provides subtle reinforcement for the captain being a militant fanboy of the democratic opposition leader, who as we all know now was convicted by Malaysia only hours before the flight on charges of gay, homosexual sodomy.
*Anyone know if there’s a theme song for the intelligence community. The pirate community has one but what about the terrorist community.
On the other hand, “Somewhere Over the Rainbow”, is a nice tune; a favorite family song with no significance?
Judy Garland is Jewish, as is her daughter Liza Minelli. Wizard of Oz is Jewish – (I’ve never understood it, and never bothered to understand it, and has never got a clue why the English speaking world havde been so fascinated about it. When I say: The English speaking world: It is not the ordinary English bloke I’m talking about – but an elite, who are snobbish and has been catering to this “Wizard of Oz” Musical-fiulm, which was groundbraking in many ways, due to the technicality by which it was made, and the technicolor.
Here’s the story Mochyn talked about:
When people are fascinated with “Wizard of Oz” (Have never seen it and has no clue what its about – but have certain suspicions that it is crafted about commonly felt wishes to find a better world at ‘the end of the rainbow’, and similar trivial stuff) it undoubtely has got something to do with a fascination about finding a better world “atr the end of the rainbow” – which the Jews did find in 1948, when Israel was set up. And this is basically what the film was about. It has basic appeal for everybody wanting to find similar stuff (don’t we all?) But that the Jews found it in 1948 had devastating effects for the Palestinians and indeed for the whole world – which would have been much better off if the Jews instead had stayed in theri respective countries. After all Hitler’s Germany was special, and their was very little reason to assume that anything similar would occur again in its wake.
When I say : “don’t we all [want to find stuff at the end of the rainbow]”, there is (at least) two answers:
One is – would we at all have given it a thought if Judy Garland wasn’t blowing her lungs inside out about it?
And 2) What’s all that nonsense about finding this stuff. Only very few succeed in actually finding something – like the Jews in 1948. And look where they are destined.