Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • Pink

    http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2014/06/22/une-harley-davidson-detruite-mais-un-pilote-introuvable

    Using google translate
    Disturbing discovery along the county 93 in the night from Saturday to Sunday. On the side of the road on the sector called “Strait” in Saillans, a Harley-Davidson was found crashed.

    The craft, heavily damaged, obviously slammed into the rock wall.

    The motorcyclist was searched all night at home, in hospitals …
    It is 3:00 when firefighters and police brigade Saillans go there. There, more ominously, no trace of the pilot.

    Immediately, research is being conducted in the area. Without result. The military quickly identify the owner of the bike and go to his home. Still nothing.

    Checks are then performed in hospitals. Again and again, the driver can not be found …

    It is finally around 10:30 the rider and owner of Harley-Davidson will finally occur with gendarmes.

    Summoned to the police station to explain
    Free, he would “simply” explained leaving the scene after the accident night.

    Yesterday afternoon, the man, a resident of the town, should be summoned to the police station in Saillans to give more information on the timeline for the least surprising facts.

  • Tim V

    Pink
    23 Jun, 2014 – 3:34 pm
    OK shot in the dark for sleuths. Harley Davison suggest American owner/rider perhaps? Crash a bit over a hundred miles from Annecy from not far from this:
    The airfield Aubenasson ( ICAO code : LFJF) is an airfield civil, approved for restricted use , located in the town of Aubenasson 11 km east-southeast of Crest in Drôme (region Rhône-Alpes , France ).

    It is used for the practice of leisure and tourism ( light aircraft ).

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    It is managed by the Aeronautical Association Rochecourbe.

    Facilities [ edit | edit the code ]
    The airport has a runway grass east-west (09/27), 750 meters long and 80 wide.

    The aerodrome is not controlled but has a signal area (ASI). Communications are carried out in self-information frequency of 123.500 MHz.

    Don’t suppose ….?

  • bleb

    re: your crashed Harley

    Or perhaps the rider did not want the police involved until he/she had sobered up?

  • bluebird

    Does anybody remember the Zygier discussion we’ve had here and the links we were searching that might have existed between Zygier and SAH?
    Here could be a link:

    Operating since 2001, the Milan-based company – which employs over 50 people – promises to “take control of your targets and monitor them regardless of encryption and mobility,” while “keeping an eye on all your targets and manage them remotely, all from a single screen.”

    Wired reported that there have been cases where the spying apps were used in illegal ways in Turkey, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia.

    Citizen Lab discovered spying malware hiding in a legitimate news app for Qatif Today, an Arabic-language news and information service that reports on events in Saudi Arabia’s eastern Qatif region. It also argued that circumstantial evidence pointed to Saudi Arabia’s government using the spying malware against Shia protesters in the area.

    http://rt.com/news/168228-hacking-team-smartphones-malware/

  • James

    “Wired (Magazine) reported that there have been cases where the spying apps were used in illegal ways in Turkey, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia”.

    That was the Zygier case.

    The “they” couldn’t be “seen” to be selling to “Iran”.
    So “they” had a company in Milan, that exported to Sweden/Denmark (?), who then would sell to Iran.

    The idea wasn’t “to spy on Iran”. But it “help” Iran keep an eye on it’s people.

    It’s alright having your own war….but to let the general public in would be a disaster. The public would rise against the Government.

    Same in Saudi I guess. They have to buy their spying gear from someone !
    Unofficially that is

  • michael norton

    Founded in 1903 by the Swiss Paul Girod, the Acieries Ugine remain a large industrial sites in the Northern Alps. 2004 is the centenary of the installation of the factory of ferro alloy Mollières, in the town of Ugine. Then it is celebrated by two companies from the activities of the site, Cezus companies (Areva subsidiary, specializes in the manufacture of zirconium) and Timet (specialized in Titanium). The mill opened in 1909 and historically dedicated to the manufacture of stainless steel belongs to another company, Ugitech, a subsidiary of the German group Schmolz + Bickenbach. The time is long past when Ugine, before the war of 1914 was shaped by the vision to industrial and social times of Paul Girod. Needs labor at its plants then required to attract and accommodate a new and large population, fueled by intense migration and backgrounds, including Russian in the 1920s. He built, in collaboration with architect Maurice Bawler, collectives, collectives and housing semi villas for workers, foremen and engineers who show a concern for both order and comfort. The phalanx (now destroyed) referred to in the report, was a large building built in 1910 with a remarkable level of comfort for this type of housing at the time (running water and central heating) and community facilities (restaurant, hall, clinic, cooperative grocery store …) that justify the name “phalanx” even if it is just the Fourier thought. Working conditions were not less hard, and the gap between good intentions and significant employer social realities, here as elsewhere. Personality Paul Girod strongly marked the beginning of 1922 Ugine but it loses control of the company that merged with other companies to form the Alpine SECEM-AEU (called Ugine), one of the largest industrial groups French. Consolidated in 1969 with the chemist Kuhlmann and Pechiney in 1972 to form the PUK, then the largest private French group, nationalized and denationalized and divided by specialty (Ugine returns to Sacilor) again, there is the old group site which, until now, survived thanks to its expertise and specialization in products with high added value.

  • michael norton

    This piece about Cezus ( where Sylvain worked) has the name Molliieres almost the same as Mollier?

  • michael norton

    It would be very interesting to know if the man who was found shot dead in Ugine, three weeks ago
    had served in the 27th Battalion Chasseurs, based in Annecy, known as “The Blue Devils”, these are very highly trained mountain fighters, that have seen action against the SS in the Second World War, more recently in Algeria and very recently in Afghanistan.
    Dr, Adlene Hicheur was jailed on suspicion of possible attack against this Battalion, he had worked at The Rutherford as had Saad Al Hilli.
    Adlene had also worked at the LAPP also based in Annecy as well as the LHC.

    Perhaps the French Secret Service are behind all this.

  • Q

    Thank you, Michael Norton, for bringing this into perspective.

    Also of note is the number of veterans of the war in Algeria who lived in Ugine. Quite a number of these elderly men have shown up in local obituaries over the past year. Some may have been members of that unit at one time or another. Some may have been “Black Feet”, or Harkis.

    Assassination, then assassination of the assassin?

  • Tim V

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    25 Jun, 2014 – 7:56 pm yea I saw and read a report of this in the Times and thought the same. Two Arabs arrested allegedly acting on behalf of the son-in-law (Wojciech Janowski honorary consul for Poland) and daughter I believe? Similar modus.

  • michael norton

    As this “investigation” would seem to being carried out under the auspices of the French Ministry of Defence, twenty months later, the public are still being kept in the dark, yet mysterious deaths are happening in the surrounding villages.
    I surmise that the Chevaline Massacre has nothing whatsoever to do with squabbles of the Al Hilli family.

  • Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    a Harley-Davidson was found crashed.

    The craft, heavily damaged, obviously slammed into the rock wall.

    This often happens when you try to go round corners on a Harley. Just sayin’.

  • Q

    Graphene Flagship executive crossover with Epi-Med, crossover with son-in-law is the murdered Monaco heiress. What does the graphene membrane involve?

  • Q

    That’s interesting. Cezus is researching ultra-thin alloys using nanoparticles. Cezus has a research facility in Ugine. Seems like they’re in the same field of research as the graphene group. A graphene researcher crosses over with the Monaco heiress’s son-in-law via one of his companies. She was shot through the windshield of her vehicle, along with her driver by alleged foreign hitmen.

    Ultra-thin alloys for cloaking would most certainly be of interest to defence departments everywhere.

    Son-in-law of Monaco heiress has a Sarkozy connection in the past.

  • Q

    Graphene also has uses in batteries, but there is one problem. It is highly flammable under certain conditions.

    http://news360.com/article/240563794#

    “Early research found that lithium batteries with graphene in their electrodes had better capacity and lifespan, when compared to standard designs….”But before we build the batteries we need to know how graphene will interact with the chemical components – specifically electrolytes.””

    http://cen.acs.org/articles/88/i30/Graphite-Oxides-Flammability-Explained.html

    “…in the solid state, the material can undergo self-sustaining deoxygenation that propagates throughout the entire sample. In contrast, the graphenelike products made from graphite oxide—reduced graphite oxide and chemically modified graphene—are highly flame resistant, the team finds. However, the products and especially the graphite oxide starting material become violently flammable when contaminated with potassium salt residues from graphite oxide synthesis, they report.”

    Sometimes it’s difficult to know which thread is the best place to post information.

  • Q

    Aluminium Konin-Impexmetal S.A.:

    http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=30766627&privcapId=5915910&previousCapId=5915910&previousTitle=Aluminium%20Konin-Impexmetal%20S.A.

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hudson-appoints-arkadiusz-krezel-as-vice-chair-126396753.html

    http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=5915910

    Now isn’t that something similar to what CEZUS does?

    What a coincidence that Wojciech Janowski is connected to this man. Mr. Janowski reportedly admitted his involvement in the murder of his mother-in-law, the wealthy Monaco heiress Hélène Pastor. Mme Pastor and her driver were shot through the windscreen of her car:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hlne-pastor-murder-was-the-shooting-of-the-monaco-billionairess-an-inside-job-9569475.html

    Familiar?

  • Pink

    This comment struck me it could explain the bomb squad being called in when they first searched SAH’s shed mistaking his research and then there was the bins in the back garden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yElNtS1QXA4

    “Having a bit of trouble finding chemists who will sell me the chemicals locally. It seems everyone I talk to is terror struck and scared to sell to just anyone off the street…this country (US) is so set against innovation it is very frustrating. Is there a good online chemist you would recommend?”

    Remember the italian ?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-alps-murders-annecy-shooting-victims-had-moved-campsite-8124815.html

    She dismissed suggestions that Mr al-Hilli behaved oddly during his stay, adding: “There was nothing strange. All families leave the campsite at all sorts of times to run errands, go to the shop, organise activities, that sort of thing.”

    And she said comments about a mysterious man described as appearing “to come from the Balkans” were “ridiculous”.

    She said: “That was an Italian man who was here. He left and got on his plane as was planned.”

    Mehran Tavakoli Keshe is the founder of the Keshe Foundation and as of 2 March 2012 has a new and permanent base in Italy.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehran_Tavakoli_Keshe

  • Pink

    @Q I wonder if they have the former gendarme ?

    “There followed an extraordinary tangle of blunders. Mr Doriac, who trains some of the wealthiest families in Monaco, told police that he had contacted “middle men” in the Marseille area. They put him in touch with an ex-gendarme. After taking money to commit the crime, the former gendarme dropped out but supplied ammunition and the names of the men who eventually attacked Ms Pastor.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hlne-pastor-murder-was-the-shooting-of-the-monaco-billionairess-an-inside-job-9569475.html

  • Pink

    I have always preferred the idea that SAH would be a backyard inventor to all of the more spy driven stuff ,it’s difficult to see why it would get him killed off though.
    I wonder how the police approach researching all of the various connections it’s no wonder it takes so long .

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