The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
The Jan 9 post you mention is intriguing, Katie.
When you read the comments you will read a comment if Sabah al Shaikhly. He is his father because he says “well done, son”.
Sabah al Shaikhly lives in New Mexico in Alamogordo and he us self employed and lives it – due to his fb page. Previously he worked for satellites and communications (Telstar).
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamogordo,_New_Mexico
So what can you do and work in the desert. What do you work as an Iraqi in Alamogordo ??
What’s so special in Alamogordo that he can make a living there as a self employed satellite and communications specialist?
So then, the link between al Saffar/al Allaf us Sabah al Shaikhly from Baghdad who married (and divorced) Mary Weatherly (Jim Thompson’s cousin). Mary Weatherly and Sabah al Shaikhly, who now works in the middle of the desert in New Mexico self employed, had 4 children.
Din’t forget the names:
Sabah al Shaikhli is the link with Jim Thompson.
Salah al Shaikhli was the Iraqi ambassador in London 2004 -2008
Abdul Karim al Shaykhli was the founder of the Baath party and the very person who asked Saddam Hussein to join the Baath party. In 1970 he fell apart with Saddam and was killed by Saddam. Sounds common? Same story with Hashim al Hilli (Kadhim’s brother) who was Iraq’s ambassador to the United Nations and also a co-founder of the Baath party who fell apart with Saddam and who was then tortured in prison by Saddam.
Sabah’s first son’s name is KARIM. The first sob usually gets the first name of a famous grandfather the father is very proud of..
Now help me with Alamogordo. What could he do in the middle of the US desert as a self employed Iraqi? What the hell do you do in Alamogordo as an Iraqi/American?
sorry for some stupid typos above:
lives it …. loves it
sob …. son
Din’t …. Din’t
Iqbal:
‘She later moved to the United Arab Emirates where she met computer engineer, Saad in 2003 and the couple married in Britain the following year.
It is understood he knew nothing of her secret first husband and friends of the couple expressed their complete shock at the development.
One of his closest friends, who helped introduce the couple said: “I can’t believe this news, it has come as a complete shock to me. “
French police insisted that they had known about the relationship since shortly after the murder but had discounted any link because the death certificate stated heart attack as the cause of death.’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10955151/Alps-murder-wife-had-a-secret-ex-husband-who-died-on-the-same-day.html
RE:Alamogordo
I shall have to think about that BB.
Alamogordo
1. first nuclear test site (just history)
2. Holloman airforce base and missile test site (that might fit well and makes sense)
That & doing an oil survey BB.
Are there any surveyors in the clan ?
well katie
oil is possible but i dont see a satellite and commjnications expert (who previously worked for Telstar) now working in the oil industry. Doesnt fit as well as the missile test site at Holloway AF base.
Also his son Karim works for the US airforce (see Karim’s fb page). Holloway Airforce base is it for me.
Never forgetting Q
9 Jul, 2014 – 5:36 am! This latest little revelation is all the more intriguing in the context of over-arching geo-politics. German BND and French Security obviously working together to “apprehend” the Iraqi “suspect” moving into France (or so we are told) Then, “Abra Cadabra”, up comes the pre-husband that points the finger back at the States. How surprising just this little gobbet of incriminatory information is released just now? I am convinced there is a little game being played out between the various Secret Services – what we might call “coded warning shots across the bow” each warning the other not to “drop them in it” – it being the shark infested waters of identification and opprobrium. As I have always thought, there are two main suspects, (including arm’s length operators of course “Q”) with France allowing the thing and helpfully not being able “to find a single clue” as Maillaud was quoted as saying. (That in itself might have been a coded message by him that his lips had been sealed and his hands tied, so to speak, for what criminal investigation has NO leads at all?) So as suggested above by Peter I think, Saad’s wife and mother could, as we have previously suggested, have been much more central to the operation. It’s not beyond the realm of possibilities that she was CIA agent, drafted in via one of those “chance meetings at the bar” to inform on a British operation. Will leave you to think around this one or I shall be on here for the rest of the day.
We should also consider that the al Shaikhly family (son Karim confirmed, father Sabah most likely) wouldnt work for the US airforce(!!) if they weren’t screened from head to toe by the CIA. Usually the CIA connects them with a CIA family in order to take care of them and to control about what they are doing and with whom they are meeting.
They wouldnt work for the airforce if they wouldnt be selected as “America friendly” by the CIA.
I mean, the al Shaikhly family isnt just an ordinary Iraqi family when one brother is the first Iraqi ambassador in London after Iraq war II and when the father was the founder of the Baath party in Iraq. You will definitely screen and be attentive of such families when you are CIA and NSA.
Now dont tell me that the CIA didnt know that Iqbal was married to Jim Thompson when the whole family must have been under the constant radar of the CIA (if Weatherly and Thompson wren’t CIA themselves, but I suggest that they are/were CIA, due to logic).
However, if Thompson and Weatherly were CIA and as it is confirmed that Salah al Shaikhly is the best friend if CIA Ayad Allawi and one of his political supporters, then it is most likely that the al Shaikhly family in the USA is CIA, too. When Iqbal marries into a CIA family for no reason, how likely is it that she isnt a CIA agent herself? She wasnt that stupid!
I wonder if the people the French have extracted this information from are Kurds?
http://www.france24.com/en/20140604-france-alps-murders-wife-ex-husband-death/
Dear B*luebird! Greetings from S*tud Baker! Remember to see that B*ollyn post that I talked about. The jerk J*o*n has blocked my IP from getting to this site, but i just used an anonymizer (second that came up from a Google search) 🙂
[craigmurray.org.uk – this is that Jew-hater that was banned; can’t remember what it called itself. Would you still like it blocked?]
i havent seen the post S.T. mentioned. please post on icke if you are blocked here (there must be a reason, S.T.)
Alamogordo/Holloway AF base:
Amerixa’s Drone training facility!
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE93M04520130423?irpc=932
more about Holloway AF
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/holloman.htm
Whatever Iqbal was doing in the US, she did not move there in order to recertify as a dentist. If she had wanted to do so, she could have obtained a J-1 visa. More than 25% of U. S. dentists are foreign-trained. Whilst recertification is not easy, said figure shows that it is doable. As this influx of foreign-trained healthcare professionals is actively encouraged by the immigration authorities, there would have been no need whatsoever for her to go through a sham marriage in order to obtain a Green Card.
Moreover, if she had really intended to work as a dentist or dental technician, Natchez MS would have been just about the worst place for her to settle down in, as there is not even a vocational school for dental technicians anywhere in the area. If she actually did study to become a dental technician, she must have done so via distance learning.
So … what on earth was she doing there, and why did she keep her stay in the U. S. a secret even from her parents back in Sweden? Given that her parents did not know about her stay in the USA, they cannot have been the ones who bankrolled it. Who did, and to what purpose?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10955833/Alps-murder-FBI-offered-to-exhume-body-in-Al-Hilli-investigation..html
Mr Thompson met Iqbal in 1999 through a relative from Iraq who married into the Thompson family.
He then agreed to marry her so she could get a green card and citizenship, and she called herself “Kelly”.
One friend described Mr Thompson, a Harley Davidson enthusiast, as “someone who would do anything for anyone”.
He added: “It was just a favour so she could live here. That was the kind of nice guy he was.”
The two slept in separate bedrooms and the marriage was purely one of convenience.
The friend said “Kelly”, who worked as a dental technician, was a “good, caring person” and she and Mr Thompson got on well. She was keen on fitness and spent much of her spare time running.
After a few years she decided to leave the US and they divorced amicably.
Kelly, huh?
So then they called her “Kelly” in the USA. Kelly Thompson?
I was sure that she used a false name. Only Allah knows whether or not Iqbal is actually her real name. Do we still remember the many different spy names of Ben Zygier?
The story about the close Iraqi relative introducing her to Jim Thompson seems to be true. That was – without any doubts whatsoever – Sabah al Shaikhly, the husband if Jim Thompson’s cousin Nary Weatherly.
However, I don’t accept a single wird about her parents not knowing where she had been except when this was a secret service activity covering her identity and her locality due to death threats.
The al Shaikhlys, the al Hillis and the al Saffars have such close family related and political ties that such a secret is strictly impossible while she lived with the al Shaikhly family in the USA
Annecy prosecutor Eric Maillaud said: “He died from a heart attack on 5 September 2012. This was confirmed by an American doctor.
No link is being made with the Chevaline killings!”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28221435
Not quite so likely if he died on the same day killed by a poison dart?
@ Bluebird
However, I don’t accept a single wird about her parents not knowing where she had been except when this was a secret service activity covering her identity and her locality due to death threats.
I concur, but for different reasons. In my own experience (my family is half-muslim), even the most westernized, progressive muslim parents become extremely nervous unless they know exactly where their daughter is and what she is doing, 24/7/365. Letting a daughter vanish off the radar for several years is simply unthinkable. Yet, they would have been equally unhappy about this sham marriage to a divorced kuffar biker bum. Thus, if I had to guess, I would assume that they genuinely did not know about that particular aspect.
Anyway, I cannot find any trace of “Kelly” on the Internet. Perhaps you have better luck.
EUREKA
http://www.ferris.edu/htmls/colleges/artsands/LangandLit/eng280/TechCommPDFs/thompson_jimthompson.pdf
This is without any doubts OUR Jim Thompson on that picture And this is our Kelly Iqbal …..
We need a screen shot!
They once again lied about Jim Thompson. He was airforce!
Jim Thompson
By: Kelly Thompson
When Jim Thompson graduated from high school, becoming a technical communicator was one of the last things he thought he’d be doing now. Jim took a long journey before winding up where he is today. When people graduate from high school, they have the big question of going to school or finding a job. Jim attended automobile classes at the local community college in Jackson, Michigan, in hopes of someday becoming a mechanic. After a couple years at Jackson Community College, Jim decided he would use his new skills and found a job working at a Sunoco body shop. After a few years working at the Sunoco and starting a family, Jim decided he needed something to do with a little more structure and support, so he joined the United States Air Force. Throughout his Air Force experience, he lived in many places, such as Edwards Air Force Base, California; Oscoda, Michigan; and Little Rock, Arkansas. While in the service, he took the initiative to earn a bachelor’s degree in Vocational Education. After a 10-year career in the Air Force, Jim thought he would try his luck in the business world because his family was tired of moving from base to base. So, he wound up finding a job for a company called EDS answering customer service phone calls. After several angry customer calls, Jim soon became frustrated with his job and tried finding something new. Two years following his customer service job, he finally found a job as a technical writer working for a company called MSX International, which specialized in automobiles and tractors. Technical writing is the area he finally found, as he said, “what I want to do when I grow up.” He spent a couple of years at MSX before he realized technical writing was something he could do within his own home. Jim started his own business, JTech Training and Technical Writing. Now he’s developing training courses for Caterpillar but has also done jobs for such companies as Audi and Oldsmobile. His hometown is Jackson, Michigan, where he does most of his writing and training developing, but has to take frequent trips to Peoria, Illinois, the headquarters of Caterpillar, where he will meet with subject matter experts to learn more about the current project. He has also had to travel to Spain, Australia, and Canada for Caterpillar projects. His advice for future technical communicators is to use the new technology. He said that a lot of the documentation that used to be paper-based is now electronic. On most mornings, Jim wakes up around 5 am, and makes a fresh pot of decaffeinated coffee before heading to his basement office. After checking some emails and making a to-do list for the day, he heads back upstairs to make a small breakfast. Then he will spend a majority of his day talking with customers, writing, or, as he said, “Whatever it takes to
deadline.” He usually ends his day around 5 pm, and spends the rest of the night with his wife and kids.
Karim Al Shakhily has three Kelly’s listed as friends, one of them female, another is male & another female has the surname of Kelly.
She called herself Kelly !
Did she marry under the name Kelly then or under the name Iqbal ?
Clearly the “link” between “Al Safar” family and the “Thompson” family is established above by BlueBird.
But we still have no idea what she was doing in the U.S.A.
I (like Peter) don’t buy the “training to be a dentist” story.
The path to become a dentist is pretty clear. Once you are a dentist and you wish to practice in a different country, there would be a need to “convert” your qualifications . Here we have Iqbal “converting” (if she was actually a dentist) from “Iraq (?)”, to “the USA”, to “Dubai”, to “the U.K.”. That’s very odd.
The Daily Fail now pixelled the face of Coriana Elizabeth al Shaikhly. Yesterday it was clearly visible. They dont want (or they arent allowed) to build a connection with the al Shaikhly family and Jim Thompson although there is no chance to debunk that now since screen shots have been made.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/08/article-2684400-1F7C945300000578-634_634x645.jpg
I have just seen that too BB.
Take a look at Kelly Dotts page & all the aircrew.Friend of K-al -S
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https://m.facebook.com/kelly.dotts?fref=fr_tab
Surely, even in America,
if Mr.Thompson was found dead at the wheel,
there would have been a coroners report.
Even if it was initially assumed to have been natural causes,
once the coroner was alerted to the Chevaline Massacre,
he would have then ordered an autopsy?
news
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10955833/Alps-murder-FBI-offered-to-exhume-body-in-Al-Hilli-investigation..html
quote:
Mr Thompson met Iqbal in 1999 through a relative from Iraq (ed.:Sabah al Shaikhly) who married into the Thompson family (ed.: he married Mary Weatherly, Jim’s cousin).
He then agreed to marry her so she could get a green card and citizenship, and she called herself “Kelly”. (ed.: no marriage records for a “Kelly” with Jim Thompson, no divorce records. No “Kelly” lived in his house either because there are no such records)
One friend described Mr Thompson, a Harley Davidson enthusiast, as “someone who would do anything for anyone”. (ed.: is that the script taken from Saad’s character description?)
He added: “It was just a favour so she could live here. That was the kind of nice guy he was.” (ed.: oh well …)
The two slept in separate bedrooms and the marriage was purely one of convenience.
The friend said Mrs AL-Hilli, who worked as a dental technician, was a “good, caring person” and she and Mr Thompson got on well. She was keen on fitness and spent much of her spare time running. (ed.: secret service agents must stay fit)
After a few years she decided to leave the US and they divorced amicably.
The reason for her leaving was not known but one friend suggested her family had wanted her to go back home. It is not thought she stayed in touch with Mr Thompson.
(ed.: Hey, there’s a lie! Either the parents didnt know that she was there, then they couldnt order her to go back. Or the parents knew this and that’s much more likely to say at least)
In 2003 she met computer engineer Saad al-Hilli in the United Arab Emirates and they married in the UK the following year. It is understood he did not know of the existence of her first husband.
(ed.: the al Shaykly family was standing very close to the al hilli family both in London and in Baghdad. They suffered the same fate with Saddam in 1970 and both families worked in the embassy in London before 1970 and in the ministry of foreign affairs and both were followers and friends of Ayad Allawi. And then they never talked about that Iqbal aka Kelly was married with two guys from both families ? Jim and Saad. Come on. i cant believe that!).
BB.
I think something is wrong here, that article on Jim is written/posted by Kelly Thompson.
At the end she says he spent his evenings with his wife & kids.
Now if this is written by the wife why did she not say ‘he spent his evenings with me & his kids’ ?
katie
i agree. i think that i am wrong with that PDF posted
9 Jul, 2014 – 11:25 am
I could bet that the guy in that picture is him but propably he had a random “double”.
That Kelly Thompson of Ferris university does exist for real and she is not Iqbal aka Kelly.
Perhaps jon could be so kind to delete my post
9 Jul, 2014 – 11:25 am
???? thanks.
Thanks for pointing that out Katie. This definitely was my error caused due to that lookalike picture.
@Bluebird 11:25 am: Not surprising, given the military presence in Mississippi. What do retired military do when their time is up? They become consultants and contractors. Note the large amount of money allocated to military contractors in Mississippi.
@Tim V: I’m unable to participate fully at the moment, alas. Please continue digging, everyone. It almost seems the story has come full circle, and dare I say it, extraction and rendition might be on the table again, shrouds, etc. A round of passports in mysterious names for the extracted and rendered, names not yet revealed?
re: Peter
Peter
9 Jul, 2014 – 11:25
progressive muslim parents become extremely nervous unless they knowexactly where their daughter is and what she is doing, 24/7/365
I fully agree. And that’s exactly why they sent her to the al Shaikhly family who is an Iraqi family of high reputation whom they know very well. And that’s the reason why they agreed on a pre arranged non sexual marriage “for a certain time” with one of their family members that is possible in Shia law and what allows a single woman to stay in the house of a single man. Anything else would be a NoGo.
It is unthinkable that the family didnt know where she was. Not in such well educate, rich and noble families like the al Saffar family. And the family wouldnt be able to “order her to come to Dubai” if they wouldnt have known where she was and how to contact her. This is all about logic.
They were well aware that she was in the USA in care of the al Shaikhly family and that she was married for a certain time with one of the al Shaikhly family members during her stay in the USA. That made sure that she was cared for and protected.
Bluebird
9 Jul, 2014 – 11:25 am those bases resonate somewhat don’t you think? “Edwards Air Force Base, California; Oscoda, Michigan; and Little Rock, Arkansas.” Then we have another ex-airforce man who travels regularly to Spain/Canada/Australia – very convenient cover if cover were needed.
The French don’t seem to like the Manouche
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manouche
On 16 July 2010, French police shot and killed a 22-year-old French Romani man who fled a police check-point by driving through it in a BMW car. In retaliation, a group later identified as ‘travellers’ (“Gens du voyage”) attacked and pillaged the village of Saint-Aignan in central France. The local mayor described the disturbances as “a settling of scores between the travellers and the gendarmerie”.[4][5][6] On the same night and for a few nights thereafter, riots erupted in a Grenoble neighborhood. French police in pursuit, having been shot at on three occasions during the chase, in turn shot and killed Karim Boudouda, a 27-year-old resident involved in a robbery at the Uriage-les-Bains casino near the border with Switzerland.