The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
news from the daily fail!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689398/Was-Alps-massacre-wife-REAL-target-This-week-emerged-secret-husband-died-SAME-DAY-murdered-Now-Mails-uncovered-drastic-new-evidence.html#article-2689398
For the first time they confirm the wealth of the al Saffar family! Something i had said over and over again:
Born in Iraq in 1965 into the wealthy Al-Saffar family, she spent much of her childhood and 20s in Sweden before moving to Dubai to work as a dentist.
Yet Iqbal’s dream was to live and work in America, and a doctor friend offered to put her in touch with an Iraqi businessman, Sabah Al-Shaikhly, in Atlanta.
divorce?
Joy might have liked her, but she also believes Iqbal’s marriage might never have been legally ended, leading to the intriguing possibility that her second marriage was a bigamous one.
I asked Joy whether she thought they were ever properly divorced. ‘I don’t know about that,’ she told me. I asked my aunt [Jim’s sister Judy] about that. Was it annulled because it wasn’t consummated? No one seems to know.
‘I don’t know; I really don’t. I couldn’t say one way or another.’
Don’t they think at the daily fail?
She’s not married and from the al Saffar family and they send her alone to the USA?
Unthinkable! They sent her to dear uncle al Shaikhly who is a good friend with neuroligist doctor Khalid al Saffar from Dubai who himself is a relative of Hilal and Haider al Saffar.
And then Iqbal had to marry for a green card and clean for the dentist for not starving?
Hence in that family there are ambassadors to the United Nations and members of the government! They would NEVER have a visa or a green card problem for their children. Besides there are seperate visas for foreign students available who dont need a green card.
There are still a lot of lies!
sorensen
For me that whole family clan al shaikhly, al saffar, al hilli has a huge sign with three big letters on their doors: C.I.A.
the Gauss-Iran virus did attack Hezbollah banks in lebanon and accounts of hezbollah. The money was transferred to somebody whom we dont know (laundering). Does the Nigerian “Big John” fit into that money laundering scheme of that virus attack?
News
More about the mother with the 7 surnames who is the mother of Sabah al Shaikhly’s first two children:
After her divorce she moved to Asheville together with Jim Thompson’s then divorced wife Jaqueline Thompson Dula. This was in 1997.
In Asheville there lives her younger brother (?) (or new husband?) Richard Rossworm who has a pharmacy.
Jaquelin Thompson studied pharmacy, too. Today she is still living in Asheville, NC, working in pharmacy.
http://www.mylife.com/ncbabycake36329uz
http://www.mylife.com/richardrossworm
Finally, i am still puzzled about where she obtained the name Gaussiran from and about why the “Gauss-Iran family” did share the house of Al Shaikhly in NC.
Ingenious solution Michael Norton
12 Jul, 2014 – 10:25 am and of course you may be right You won’t forget though that the police reported “signs of a disturbance” at the premises, yet this was not referred to by EM nor influenced his premature, over confident assertion that this was definitely “suicide”. It replicates his assurance that SM “had nothing to do with the shooting of the al Hillis” despite all available evidence pointing the other way.
@ Katie
If Iqbal and James Thompson were indeed married, it must have been a marriage according to U. S. civil law. First, an islamic marriage alone would not have entitled her to a green card; secondly, Thompson was not a muslim, therefore could not have married her according to Islamic rites.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689398/Was-Alps-massacre-wife-REAL-target-This-week-emerged-secret-husband-died-SAME-DAY-murdered-Now-Mails-uncovered-drastic-new-evidence.html
This quote, The couple had quietly married in a civil ceremony with only two witnesses and no reception or honeymoon., definitely makes it sound as if they had a civil marriage. Accordingly, if there had later been a divorce or an annulment, there should be local court records to that effect.
The Thompson family probably had neither an interest nor the means to keep tabs on Iqbal during subsequent years, but those clannish, internationally-connected Iraqis in exile who “fixed” her U. S. marriage perhaps did. As I have argued, they would have had some potential blackmail leverage over her because of that. Whether or not her later marriage to Saad (which was almost certainly pre-arranged, too – I don’t for one second buy that story of Saad going on holiday in Abu Dhabi and simply bumping into Iqbal by chance) was in fact bigamous is almost beside the point. Separate bedrooms or no, her living together with James Thompson in the context of a sham marriage would be considered absolutely scandalous, worse even than if she had been “genuinely” married to him.
http://islamicislamic.com/marriage_old_divorce.htm#8._MARRIAGE_FOR_GREEN_CARD
I find it extremely puzzling why Iqbal was willing to run the double risk of potentially being busted by USCIS and of probably never being able to find an honest muslim husband, whilst she was at the same time unwilling to invest the required effort to recertify as a dentist in the USA.
O.K. how many drivers in America die at the wheel, not in a crash,
and there is not an autopsy?
Answers the question now as to “Why no pictures released”.
They’d say “Jesus….that’s Kelly Thompson !”.
But this is still super odd.
She lives in Sweden now.
Educated there I guess ?
Then college and university….. qualified, REGISTERED and LICENSED in Sweden ?
I assume she worked in Sweden.
Maybe “specialised” there to. It is afterall reported she was “highly qualified”.
She leaves to work in Dubai. So “private practice” then ?
Leaving “private practice” in Dubai she heads to the U.S.A.
Already qualified, registered, licensed, she doesn’t convert her qualifications.
She decides it’s best to get a Green Card by marriage and NOT a “study visa” !
The “American Dream” doesn’t work out as she thought (NO WONDER !) and she waves “Goodbye” to her “husband” and the U.S. to return to Dubai….AND STARTS WORK AS A DENTIST AGAIN !!!!
Non of this makes any sense.
I hope that those who used to say this was an “ordinary” crime and pooh pooh the suggestion that it had anything to do with nation states and their secret agencies are now convinced. We have so many connections to so many victims and associates to stick to that opinion would appear fanciful. As far as Iqbal is concerned we are told she spoke “English perfectly” ie no hint of either Swedish or Arab accent. Not American accent you notice which suggests British schooling somewhere along the line and probably from an early age. If she was working for government, was it British or American? Was America using her to spy on Britain or vice versa? Or was it a co-operative effort – Britain’s MI5/6 lending her to FBI/CIA before winging her back to Dubai at the very time the Twin Towers operation swings into action? We know how obsessed America has been with Iran ever since the fall of the Shah and Carter’s humiliation that ensured Reagan Republicans would get into the 80’s driving seat, followed of course by the CIA Bush and first Iraq invasion. In such a situation multi lingual Shia top family individuals with connections to all the important players becomes hot property. It seems that both Saad AND Iqbal fell into that category. They were complimentary. Their meeting in Dubai and subsequent marriage could not have been accidental. They were both carrying on a family tradition at a critical time of Saddam being ousted which they both probably supported but became less convinced as time went on, aware of the way American policy was leading. They may well have gone “rogue” therefore and needed to be neutralised before spilling important beans or providing essential assistance to the old enemy. SM appears to be the bait but provided by whom – the French? It certainly appears from their reaction at the time and subsequently that even if not a British operation (which I believe it was) it was being monitored and supported by them. The British response to protect children and Zaid plus wider family can only be interpreted as supporting its own. So as always we are back to the two main suspects. The death of Jim Thompson, probably sacrificial warning to others, could have been carried out by one of the two main suspects, but more likely one of them. That it has been kept quiet all this time ties yet again the French into an international conspiracy.
For an excellent, albeit somewhat superficial review of 7/7 and insight into how in many respects (downgrading security at the same time; predicting exactly the events; running a simultaneous mock exercise that replicated it; Israel’s Netanyahu warned to stay inside; New York’s Juliani in London; crime scenes treated with gay abandon; absence of autopsies; no proper inquiry; suspects known to MI5 etc) it paralleled 9/11 see:
http://inquiringminds.cc/uk-911-truth-77-attacks-what-is-mi5-hiding-and-why-tony-gosling
It is the same murky, “bay of pigs” territory that we find ourselves in at Chevaline.
Here’s one for Peter.
Off topic. Imagine this for a plot for a film.
A business man lures his business partner to an isolated factory.
He’s planning to “do him in”.
But he can’t do this himself, so he hires a hitman.
The hitman gets a bit fruity and wants more cash for “the job”.
This “reluctantly” gets agreed.
The day arrives.
The business man brings his business partner to the isolated factory….
….and the hitman shots everyone !
I’d have to weave a bit more “suspense” into it.
As I say, off topic, but not a bad film ?
Sorry Peter, not that marriage, I meant Iqbals marriage to Saad.
Both muslims…. unlike Jim.
I think that there are two riddles that we must solve.
Who is that lady with the many names who had issue with Sabah al Shaikhly and how is she related to the Gaussiran family?
Who are Elawy Gaussiran sr. and jr. and why did they live together with the two Al Shaikhly brothers in the same house in NC??
Third question: What happend to Wathil al Shaikhly who is four years older than Sabah? He has got no registration after 2002 in the USA and the last thing we can confurm is that he was arrested because he drove without a drivers licence since that was cancelled before (due to driving drunk?).
Thirdly. I will give details later.
Marrera and Metairie: The Weatherly/Thompson family owned 5 houses there. 2 were small apartment houses (cheap environment) where 2 if his ex wives were “parked”.
Two houses were quite nice, one wirh a pool and 4 bedrooms in a better environment. That were the houses where Jim Thompson, his parents and Mrs Weatherly were registered and supposingly his always current wife.
But then they had a 5th house in a kind of trailer park. Very cheap looking. If i would be there then i would bet that this is a secret illegal whore house. Besides all of his ex wives there were at least 20 more women registered over the time, all of them in their 30tees or 40tees. Very weird. It looked like an illegal red light house when you look the many registrations of females in that tiny house. Rooms rented per hour??
Michael,
I have noticed your comments about an autopsy, which none have answered….. so the answer has to be I don’t know but there most certainly should have been one.
Here’s one for James & Peter.
You already know the plot.
Title “Double Native”
Opening scene – overhead shot of estate car driving up the Combe (shamelessly stolen from ‘The Shining’)
Car pulls into Le Martinet parking. Camera shot overshoots then does wide spiral shot of woods. Muffled shouting and gunshots.
Fade to black.
Cut to wide shot of Combe. Press helicopter at centre slowly circles.
Cut to interior shot of rear cabin of helicopter. Photographer hanging out the side with big camera intently taking pictures.
Cut to sequence of overhead pictures.
Music over opening scene – Magazine – ‘Shot by both sides’
Listen to the lyrics and weep.
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=340083
It would seem that most people who “die at the wheel” in America are middle aged men
but the relevant point is most are involved in an accident. Qite probably most have a heart attack, then crash.
How many are found dead without crashing
and there is NO AUTOPSY?
If you were going to kill a driver with a poison dart, the easiest way would be to pull up alongside them at a traffic light, blowpipe through open window
and drive off.
Yes agreed, Michael, but who suggested the poison dart in the first place ?
A suspicious bystander or innocent would have expected him to have eaten or drunk something before getting into his truck, that surely would be the amateur view ?
A poison dart sounds sooooo professional to me, especially as it is not a common occurrence.
I see no option now but for the body to be exhumed.
no divorce records is one thing. but there arent any US marriage records either.
Did they marry in Sweden? Possibly.
Or is that marriage just setup for the media?
Lots of lies here.
DM comes up with an updated story everyday and they censor the truth in their comments section. How did she get a greencard without being registered at an US addresd? How did she get a marriage and a greencard with the fantasy name Kelly?
Reminds me a little bit if the many names used by Ben Zygier ….
katie
for me Jim’s death was caused by sudden stress when he heard the info about their death from al Shaikhly. No stress because of grief but stress because of feeling some kind of danger.
Thats my theory.
Blue…
Very interesting post indeed.
I know there was a “US house price bubble” and a lot of “speculators”….
….BUT five houses !
There’s something else I’ll query later. It was mentioned in the early stages of the investigation.
I’ll come back to that (it may or may not be relevant, time will tell).
Anymore news re these houses ?
So we have a marriage with out paperwork.
And a divorce that we are unsure even happened.
We don’t know “how” Saad met Iqbal (then “Kelly Thompson”).
But they were married shortly afterwards.
We are told “a doctor” in Dubai contacted a “what was he again” in the USA and arranged for Iqbal to “come over”…. and “stay” !
What visa was acquired ? A “tourist” visa ? What’s the max on that ?
So then there is “the wedding”. And no one can find it.
Kelly never had sex with Jim though. Or did Jim not have sex with Kelly !
Le figaro has a different version or has google translate made that up ?
“Officially, the man died of a heart attack while he was alone in the hospital, complaining of pain in the chest and shoulders.”
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2014/07/11/01016-20140711ARTFIG00418-tuerie-de-chevaline-une-coincidence-intrigue-les-autorites.php
Which member of Jimmy’s family first mentioned Poison dart?
Miss Martinolich said “My aunt Judy Weatherly said, in the middle of her grief, that someone had said something about a dart… She thought a couple of people had said something about poison, that this was not a heart attack”
would this aunt, be one of the wives of Al Sahaky
Two “seemingly” unrelated deaths.
Jim Thompson and Iqbal Al Hilli, nee Al saffar.
Completely unrelated.
It has to be the perfect crime ?
https://twitter.com/jeanmarcduc
Ce premier mariage était connu et notamment de Saad. C’était un mariage arrangé comme souvent par sa famille.
translate “This first wedding was known including Saad. It was an arranged marriage by her family as often.”
Jean Marc must know !
He must know more than the officials in Surrey. The name there is “Al Saffar”.
James, the movie needs two hitmen, one hired by each side, or, like a plot from Elementary, the other”Milieu” on one side, terminating a working relationship and MI5 onthe other trying to save their agent. Ex dpt unlike TV, it all goes wrong. Extra appeal if the shirtless FBI agent tracking down a most wanted senior citizen on the lam with a trove of jewels stumbles into the melee. Not to make fun of the situation, but so much was going on at the time. Smuggling, arms trafficking…the only thing missing for a blockbuster hit is not tipless royals, but an action flick superstar.
k
I mean topless royals. Spell correct can’t omprehend this situation.
Q
Nah !
The film has a quite simple plot. That’s the beauty of it.
One businessman finds out the other businessman has just “shat on” his dreams.
Trouble is, businessman ONE doesn’t figure on the “hitman employee” was going to do to him, what he was planning for the other”.
@ Q
As I posted earlier “Shot by both sides”
Just listen to the lyrics.