The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Apropos MH17 you may be interested in this and particularly the article I have added in the comments section regarding deeply engrained Israeli secret activity at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol.
http://inquiringminds.cc/re-flight-ma17-crashes-israel-starts-ground-invasion-of-gazza-coincidence-of-course-up-dated-and-amended-19-7-2014-tim-veater
@michael norton 10 Jul, 2014 – 9:54 am
“Iqbal could have been a sleeper, as well as a dental implant specialist, was there a dental laboratory in their shed in Claygate?”
It was during the nearly two week long fingertip search of the victims’ home at Claygate, complete with drilling holes into voids and inserting cameras, that at some point while they searched the shed they stopped, cleared the area, and called in the military bomb squad who removed Iqbal’s dental practice dummy and allegedly proclaimed it harmless.
What was it about the dental dummy that searchers suspected it might contain explosives?
If Claire Schutz took legal control of the Pharmacie Schutz
at 73 Rue Joseph Martin, Grignon, Savoie on 29/06/2011,
then in June 2012 she has a child with her partner Sylvain Mollier,
If you had recently taken legal ownership for a small chemist business and you were the manager, you had just become a mother, so were combining motherhood with your business, wouldn’t it be most likely that you lived on the premises with your boyfriend, rather than ten miles away in Ugine, as has been suggested by Eric Maillaud?
Here’s an interesting little twist on an obviously orchestrated event to cause Ukrainian confrontation, anti Russian feeling and sanctions particularly post bric meeting (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/brics-bank-will-it-be-able-to-fulfil-ambitions-of-emerging-nations/articleshow/38694219.cms)and distract from the Israeli attack on Gazza that happened within literally minutes of the plane crash.
This Dutch CYCLIST called Marteen de Jonge (Matin Young) was booked on both MH370 (the one that still hasn’t been found) and MH 17 (the one brought down over Ukraine) He changed both flights at the last minute apparently. He’s a very lucky chap (in the absence of any other more prosaic explanation) isn’t he?
Strange though how in these suspicious events, there always appears to be a stated culprit, before any investigation has been carried out AND a hero or remarkable survivor.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/dutch-cyclist-maarten-de-jonge-cheats-death-twice-after-changing-flights-from-both-malaysia-airlines-mh17-and-mh370-9617243.html
Martin*
these plane crashes r cia/mossad. chev ditto. the circumstantial links are all there. (i won’t bore you by repeating) we know about freescale semi conductors and their staff on their way to Beijing. israel has invested heavily and now arguably leads the field with next generation organic polypeptides brainchild of Gil Rosenman and colleagues at Tel Aviv University in Israel, is based on biological quantum dots. (see http://theconversation.com/peptide-power-the-science-behind-the-30-second-phone-charger-25491) Malaysian has been an outspoken critic of israel in un. now iqbal and saad make a good team linking the biological and electronic including all the satellite stuff. its an extra dimension. israel is quite uncompromising in protecting its scientific and other expertise. the trojan virus that was so damaging to the iranian centifuge programme was israeli designed. ben zyglier was involved in company getting products (suitably doctored) into iran. al hillier/mollier appear to have been egaged in similar. israel is also a centre for “fabless” companies that design but delegate manufacture elsewhere like the far east. last week israeli company “orbotech” bought out newport wales based semi-conductor company spts, giving its american ceo a big 2.6x payout on his investment. (britain is either too stupid or cowed to protect its strategic industry) no doubt there are many more connections in this spider’s web of deceit and intrigue.
it goes without saying of course that both planes were BOEING 777’s (WBM) and that an identical one was parked at tel aviv for no apparent reason. Boeing is also a common factor to several of our people.
@Michael Norton: Cold War gadgets included dissolving poison pellets and dissolving heart attack darts.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-targeted-assassinations-by-induced-heart-attack-and-cancer/5326382
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/07/terror.poison.bulgarian/
perhaps something to consider:
http://rt.com/uk/174372-secrecy-iraq-uk-inquiry/
it seems to take for EVER to load BB. Interference or just gremlins?
Sylvain & Claire’s baby was three months old when Sylvain was murdered in the woods.
If Sylvain Mollier was granted three years leave from Czeus, Ugine, on paternity grounds,
his two sons with his former wife, had come to live with Sylvain & Claire.
At some stage Sylvain would have stopped living in Ugine and moved in with Claire,
most likely (or in the immediate vicinity) of
the Pharmacie Schutz, at 73 Rue Joseph Martin, Grignon, Savoie.
So why within a couple of days on the Chevaline Massacre does Eric Maillaud
announce that Sylvain was not an intended victim and just a passing cyclist.
Why does he say that Sylvain lived in Ugine, when they clearly lived in Grignon.
Why after two months have they not mentioned the name of the Mollier family aquaintance
( ex-Legionnaire)of the Sapeurs-Pompier who was found shot dead
( with the six or seven page note).
Why has he not mentioned that Sylvain Mollier was part of an extended family with the Communal-Tournier Family, after all Mrs. Communal-Tournier was shot dead in her home one week after the e-fit was distributed.
It would seem to me the logical was for Eric Maillaud to solve this heinous crime, would be to put dead “American ex-husbands” and Al Hilli family monies out of his line of thinking
and look penetratingly at the life of Sylvain Mollier and those he mingled with.
Early on it was reported that,
Sylvain’s blood was on Zainab and Saad Al Hilli
but it was not said that the blood of Zainab or Saad was on Mollier.
It was said that Sylvain was shot seven times,
more than twice the entry wounds of any other victim.
If either of these “facts” are true,
how could you discount Sylvain Mollier as being an intended victim,
within such an amazingly short time?
In zis story, there is no the logical.
But if you louk penetraningly at the clous, you can see that Mollier and Al-Hillis were shot to-gether
One clou could be that the only corpse shown was purported to be that of Sylvain Mollier.
Of corse,
Mollier couldn”t get in the car, like the little girl. The British cyclist had a stupid smart phone so ze picture dozen show the other victims in car
That could become pretty interesting after we know the names on the passenger manifest.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/air-algerie-ah5017-hezbollah-leader-french-troops-were-board-flight-1458390
Of the 116 or 118 people on board the Air Algerie flight AH5017 which crashed in the restive northern Mali, at least 33 French military personnel including three senior intelligence officials and a Lebanese Hezbollah leader were present, it has emerged.
There were at least 19 Lebanese passengers and some of them were dual citizens, including an alleged senior Hezbollah figure, who was disguised as a businessman.
Meanwhile, militants from the Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MOJWA), locally known as Tawhid and Jihad in West Africa, are said to be stationed near the crash site, which is not far from their stronghold.
The al-Qaeda-inspired outfit is believed to be holding an arsenal of missiles in its possession which were smuggled from Libya.
Nicole Communal-Tournier was shot one week after the e-fit was distributed
She lived in Lathuile.
It has been reported by Eric M. that five persons are arrested for the killing of Nicole.
After the police arrested Eric D. they stated that eight others could be arrested in connection with Eric D.
It was said Eric D. lived in Lathuile, as does W.B.M.
and the recently fallen off a cliff President of Faverge, mayor of Doussard, head majistrate of the area and now related to the husband of Nicole through the marriage of their children,
The husband of Nicole is also related to Sylvain Mollier.
So is there any croos over between Eric D. and his eight associtates ( of police interest)
and the five persons arrested ( case solved) for the murder of Nicole Communal-Tournier?
@Tim V 24 Feb 1.16pm
re Stan M. Reunion high level paedo intrigue
Hollande has put off his little trip to Reunion
because of the plane downed in Mali.
Sorry to ask this as it must have been asked before.
Which language would Saad & Sylvain converse in.
Arabic
French
English
?
There not stupid. They converse in Google.
Butt, the Sylvain can not be related to ze husband of Nicole, they didnt not know one other as the prosecuteur has said.
Michael Norton
26 Jul, 2014 – 5:25 pm do you have a reference i can look up on that maybe? Would appreciate it if you have. Thanks.
Bluebird
26 Jul, 2014 – 9:20 am you prove my suggestion that occupants of planes has a significant influence on whether it flies or falls. You might also be interested in this if you haven’t seen it already. Regards. http://inquiringminds.cc/are-mh17-and-mh370-one-and-the-same-aircraft-tim-veater?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+inquiringminds%2FDgqX+(Inquiring+Minds)
@Tim V
sorry I know nothing.
Reunion is in The Eurozone.
“For a period of around two decades in the twentieth century (1968–1982), 1,630 children from Réunion were relocated to metropolitan France, particularly to Creuse. These children, known as les enfants de la Creuse, were brought to light in 2002 when Réunion exile Jean-Jacques Martial brought a legal action against politician Michel Debré (who had been the MP for Réunion at the time) for “kidnapping of a minor, roundup and deportation”.[9] In 2005, a similar case was brought against the French Government by the Association of Réunion of Creuse.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9union
Well, Reunion Island used to known as Isle Bourbon.
The modern Department 23 of Creuse used to belong to The House of Bourbon.
these children (1968 – 1882) from Reunion were estranged to Creuse.
Immediately North of Cruise is Neuvy Saint Sepulcre Department.
This is the place Jarry, the mate of Eric Devouassoix has his arms trading business
and does not Eric also have a home there.
I typed too quick.
Immediately North of Cruise Department 23
is Indre Department 36
Both these Departments were formed as the original 83 Departments in the 1790’s following the Revolution. You would have to be well off to live there.
Jean-Jacques Martial fait partie de ces enfants qui ont été arrachés à leur île et déplacés vers la Métropole. En revendiquant son nom qui lui avait été confisqué, en portant plainte contre l’État pour déportation, Jean-Jacques Martial a mis fin au silence qui entourait ce scandale.
http://jjmartial.com/affaire.php
“Stolen Reunion. Forty years later children, the scandal broke. More than a thousand children from poor millieux were illegally taken from their parents and were used as slaves to French farmers. Nowadays adults, anger and hope involved, they want to reconnect the son of their destiny. ”
Wow this is an immense story.
Afterall, the AlHillis too where there for a family Reunion, with the slave grand-mother
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Debr%C3%A9
This is getting rather interesting
Michel Jean-Pierre Debré was not only the M.P. for Reunion he became the senator for
Indre-et-Loire
also prime minister of France.
It is he who put in motion these 1000 plus children to be removed from Reunion to France.
Neuvy Saint Sepulchre seems to be a dangerous place
This re-enactment ( prior to the court case 2013) takes place
three years after the killing , ( note pistol and shotgun) and happens a few weeks before the Chevaline Massacre
and guess who has a holiday home here
our mate Eric Devouassoux.
Neuvy-Saint-Sépulchre : cinq hommes reconstituent la nuit du meurtre
21/06/2012 05:46
La reconstitution du meurtre, en juillet 2009 de Maurice Fournier, 80 ans, s’est déroulée
hier. Sous haute surveillance.
http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/Indre/Actualite/Faits-divers-justice/n/Contenus/Articles/2012/06/21/Neuvy-Saint-Sepulchre-cinq-hommes-reconstituent-la-nuit-du-meurtre