The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
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Socialist France hurtles down the plughole!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28959526
A few months ago the British cops claimed they were no longer interested in Zaid al Hilli.
Has Eric Maillud also now claimed he is no longer interested in Zaid al Hilli,
or is Zaid ( after 23 months) still the prime suspect of the French?
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Michael Norton
28 Aug, 2014 – 11:16 am as you appear to be the only (other?) sensible contributor here now (where have they all fled?) and you had not spotted that the French President was having tea and biscuits with Cameron when the shooting was happening in a French forest, it might also have escaped your notice that they will be together again on the second anniversary of it. This time in Wales at the NATO conference that has made Cardiff look like Belfast at the height of the troubles. Of course we are currently being deluged with a shed load of fear-provoking propaganda emanating from a joint MI6/CIA (ably approved and supported by Mossad) of Muslim terror returning from Syria. That these dangerous fanatics do exist is pretty much beyond doubt, but who it that is paying the piper is far more sinister and convoluted as was demonstrated on 9/11 AND 7/7. Whether these recent warnings are a lead up to another “false flag” event or just psychological conditioning to permit the sort of measures proposed or seen at Cardiff and Newport, or other NATO “initiatives” abroad, waits to be revealed.
Tim, there is some rhetoric emanating from America that the Canadians, Australians and British will soon be bombing the shit our of Syria.
I hope this will not come to pass, one of the very few things on which I agree with my M.P.
David Cameron wanted to bomb Syria a year ago but luckily our Parliament were mindful of the opinions of their electorate. It would be madness to go back to bombing Syria with the Scottish Referendum next month , U.K.I.P. taking Conservative M.P.’s and the greatest ever flood of people coming to our shores, ever known, mostly against the will of the people.
I don’t think Socialist France is the only country in Europe that has a democratic lack, I think it is also the United Kingdom that lacks true democracy.
We do not want lies, wars or covered up child abuse, why don’t the bastards listen to their voters.
Tim I have today glimpsed the fences going up in Cardiff ( T.V.) and too thought it looked like the bad days of Northern Ireland, what are they frightened of?
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Quote Francois Hollande
“We will do our utmost to find the perpetrators, to find the reasons and truths behind this terrible drama. Like David Cameron has said our police forces are cooperating and will share all information and everything that will be revealed will be known by everyone, we owe it
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@Michael Norton 2:26 pm: Your explanation for the high security alert seems stronger than this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-202172/Britain-high-terror-alert.html
Let’s see if this one keeps his word, Michael Norton.
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/29/theres-no-plan-for-canada-to-join-military-mission-in-syria-stephen-harper
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Syria, Iraq and the heightened state of alert:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/29/david-cameron-uk-security-powers-isis-threat
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For this thread, the state of alert should be raised from ‘severe’ to ‘critical’. This time, the Al-Hillis are really forgotten, a few days from their anniversary. Sorry.
I’m at a loss to understand why oil equipment would be shipped from Glasgow:
http://chicago-illinois.yourlocalnews.us/index.php?zfcategory=WGN-TV%209&zftitle=Ukrainian+cargo+plane+crashes+in+Algeria+killing+7
Wouldn’t Aberdeen or Leith be more logical? Taking my cue from this meeting in Aberdeen. Glasgow is mentioned briefly:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cabinet-meet-scotland-focus-north-sea-oil-133529415.html#C3Ceuu9
Glasgow:
http://www.clyde1.com/news/local/north-sea-oil-discussed-as-cabinets-meet-in-scotland/
Yes, AGrainofSalt, the security alert was heightened yet again. We are small in number, but we here on these forums are not forgetting the al-Hillis.
I find it difficult to know where I should post, here or on the disappearing aircraft thread. The oil industry connection to the latest plane crash, and political angles in both threads are a point of overlap.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/30/world/africa/algeria-plane-crash/index.html
Reference Mark Thatcher 2004 in the disappearing aircraft thread.
If there really is a person called Sylvain Mollier and if he is really dead.
After almost a couple of years it would be most unusual if “some relative or functionary”
had not applied for probate.
In England probate is a public document.
We must assume they have similar in FRANCE?
So if this probate has been applied for, it should be a publically available document.
If prbate has been applied for and this document is not being made publically available or if probate has not yet been applied for
something is smelling like last weeks FISH.