Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • Q

    Will add this to the disappearing aircraft thread. Consider the source:

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/article_7886.shtml

    “Gadhafi’s creation of the African Investment Bank in Sirte (Libya) and the African Monetary Fund to be based in Cameroon will supplant the IMF and undermine Western economic hegemony in Africa,” said Gerald Pereira, an executive board member of the former Tripoli-based World Mathaba.

    “The moves are also bad for France because when the African Monetary Fund and the African Central Bank in Nigeria starts printing gold-backed currency, it would “ring the death knell” for the CFA franc through which Paris was able to maintain its neocolonial grip on 14 former African colonies for the last 50 years….

    ““The US, the other G-8 countries, the World Bank, IMF, BIS (Bank for International Settlements), and multinational corporations do not look kindly on leaders who threaten their dominance over world currency markets,” wrote John Perkins, author of “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,” on Johnperkins.com. It is redolent of Saddam Hussein advocating similar policies shortly before the U.S. invaded Iraq, he said.”

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    This is quiet interesting news.
    As for Mr Mollier, he was always pro bait. In France, they have estates settled within six months thru the government agent cold note-her

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  • Oui

    The Israeli drone crashed near Baghdad airport a week ago. US forces cleaned up the parts from the site, no further investigation. It was most likely the Hermes 900 UAV used in military operations during the recent Gaza attacks.

    My impression, the drone launched a few days earlier from Azerbaijan and downed by Iran as it flew over its territory headed for Natanz, was also a Hermes 900 version due to operating range “unlimited” and ceiling of 30,000 ft. Iran has publisheh fake photos of the “crashed drone.” Did it crash or was it recovered like the US Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone in Decembewr 2011.

  • bleb

    Thanks for those links, Shelock
    and thanks for the original detective work, Oui

    Seems to provide an explanation of how the AHs & SM could have been watched and then tracked down to be murdered. It also fits with what some of us on this board have thought from the start.

    It’ll also be interesting to see who turns up on here to rubbish/divert attention from this new bit of info.

  • Q

    The drone information is most interesting. Way back in these threads, drones were discussed and drone videos posted, but not that specific drone.

  • Tim Veater

    Thanks for that reference Shelock
    3 Sep, 2014 – 12:36 pm

    This is WIKI on the drone in question. “The Elbit Systems Hermes 900 Kochav (Star)[2] is an Israeli medium size multi-payload unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) designed for medium altitude long endurance (MALE) tactical missions. It has an endurance of over 30 hours, can fly at a maximum altitude of 30,000 feet, with a primary mission of reconnaissance, surveillance and communications relay. The Hermes 900 has a wingspan of 15 m and weighs 970 kg, with a payload capability of 300 kg.[3]”

    Apart from the supposition that Israelis may have been in the vicinity at the time, it is also feasible a drone used for communication purposes could have been assigned to highly sensitive operation under the cover of trialsa. Perhaps someone should enquire of the Swiss if it was up that day???

  • bluebird

    Shelock

    there’s just a little problem in that MZT theory:

    the problem is that secret service agents dont kill each other. that’s an unwritten law since WW2.
    It is far better if you learn to know the other agent than if you dont know who his substitute will be.

    the only agents being killed while being in secret service duty by the opposite secret service agents are the traitors. traitors are those who are working for both parties.

  • Tim Veater

    I also find it rather interesting that MZT appears to have shifted her position somewhat, now prepared to put Israel in the frame when previously, if my memory serves me correct (and I still have the bruises to prove it) she was dismissive of any state involvement or complicity on the part of the French prosecutor. She also now accepts that SM was shot first (tacitly now accepting he must have been a target and EM lied) though she leaves out that he was also shot last, when he was on the ground. This is so clearly professional and intentional, now we also know where he lay on his back, scotches EM explanation, which he must have known was false from the beginning, and gives other firm clues what happened, which I won’t bore you with again. I just thought it interesting the shift in emphasis in her piece which points a tentative finger towards the Israelis, but not still you will notice the French, despite the secrecy, misinformation, blunders, absence of results and particularly the extraordinary and implicating role of the two forestry trucks and their personnel.

  • Tim Veater

    Q
    3 Sep, 2014 – 8:31 pm as we discussed at length at the time, the wheelbase and track measurements, would have definitely ruled many vehicles out and a range of vehicles in. Without going over old tracks (sorry I couldn’t resist that one!) if that vehicle was involved in the operation, indeed any operation, it would have been chosen specifically for the requirements of it, including the need to be relatively inconspicuous. (Remember the French DST operative’s remarks about vehicles they tended to use?) So in my opinion, for what its worth, they wouldn’t have used a military vehicle. Now ONF vehicles, that’s a very different matter. Ideal I would say. Who would raise an eyebrow about them being there?

  • Tim Veater

    Oui
    3 Sep, 2014 – 3:10 pm interesting! So proof positive Israel over Iraq air space. We don’t hear that on the news. It raises some interesting questions. Did it come down as a result of a fault or was it brought down and if so by whom. If picked up by US and not Iraq, some skulduggery involved and probable cover-up as per usual. (ref. USS Liberty) Baghdad well south of the ISIS issue but why was it there when Iraq ostensibly no longer a threat. There is no doubt that Israel is up to its neck in the American strategy in the area including the invasion and subsequent murders of intellectuals both sunni and shia.

  • Tim Veater

    incidentally it has also demonstrated beyond peradventure in Gaza it is completely indifferent to killing civilians if so minded. It may be able to cover up its involvement in Iraq and elsewhere – ISIS being the current one – but its perfidy in Gaza is there for all to see for all time and can never be excused.

  • Oui

    @ Tim Veater
    3 Sep, 2014 – 8:53 pm

    MZT wrote her article based on what she learned from my article @BooMan and certified the info was reliable. The French laws limits free speech on blogs and owners can be sued for liability. The political discourse on state intelligence is not part of her work writing detectives. I appreciate MZT was willing to open a thread for discussion once again, hoping that EM comes forward with an update on the police investigation this Friday.

    The Swiss tested two drone versions, the IAI Heron and the Elbit Hermes 900. The evaluations were spread over two periods: 09.03 till 09.21 and 10.01 till 10.19. From the published videos, the Hermes 900 flew in the September period. This advanced drone is linked up to satellite for relay of data, flight instructions and communications. The data could be received anywhere on the globe.

    This is an obvious concept to direct killer X to the Martinet parking at the right moment to intercept intended target. Because the window of opportunity to strike was very short, this has puzzled me from the earliest moments of the encounter how the location of persons could be communicated. Land phone lines and gsm obviously were not up to that task.

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