The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
IMI Meeting Sales Targets and Dubious Deals
Enthusiasm to sell arms leads to dubious deals
By Yossi Melman | Haaretz | Aug. 19, 2003 12:00 AM |
Another example of this pattern of behavior on the part of the Defense Ministry is the case of Moshe Rothschild and Roni Lerner, who received permits from the ministry to sell Israeli arms in South America. Rothschild’s and Lerner’s names cropped up in reports in the local media over the past year in connection with the bribery case of Vladimiro Montesinos, former head of Peruvian intelligence, who is currently on trial in Lima.
These cases and others attest to the ministry’s generally sympathetic approach to arms dealers, whom senior ministry officials prefer to call “arms promoters.”
“They promote arms sales,” says Major-General (res.) Yossi Ben Hanan, head of Sibat, “and even if there is something indelicate about this, it does not make them arms dealers.”
Ever since Ben Hanan became head of Sibat six years ago, he has been aggressively promoting Israeli arms sales and security exports. “Since taking office I have revolutionized this field,” he says proudly. “Security exports totaled $1.7 billion dollars back then, and each year I have set a new target and met it.”
○ Indo-Israel Military Relations [pdf]
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Recently the head of SIBAT, Maj.Gen. Yossi Ben-Hanan, in his interview with the Jerusalem Post proclaimed “India was Israel’s biggest customer, with purchases reaching $1.5 billion”.
He also pointed out that Israel’s single largest sale to a foreign country involved India, the Barak Naval anti- missile defence system worth $450 million. Israeli defence exports to India totalled US $ 2.76 billion from the year 2002 through 2005. The year 2006 registered a record purchase of defence equipment worth $1.6 billion by India from Israel. In the last five years India had purchased arms worth nearly $5 billion from Israel and has been its largest client for military hardware.
After September 11 attack on the World Trade Centre, Israel has been selling defence supplies to India, especially in the garb and under the rhetoric of counter-terrorist operations.
What links Niger and Equatorial Guinea ?
1) Well they both have “stuff” of great importance to the West.
Euatorial Guinea has OIL
Niger has URANIUM & oil
2) both countries have rather poor people, the wealth is slow to filter down.
3) their usual state is being run by dictatorial regimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger
differences
1) E-G has been run by the same person for many decades, essentially a dictatorship.
Niger now has a new democracy and new president, Mahamadou Issoufou
(he used to be minister for mines)
Niger began producing its first barrels of oil in 2011.
Niger is hosting the drone centers for The Sahel, for the U.S.A. & France.
Q
any importance to your ref. about Sylvain being called Sylvain Molliex?
Russia may construct a reactor for Algeria
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Algeria-may-get-Russian-reactor-0409201401.html
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/britain-s-role-in-arming-israel-uk-drone-technology-is-backbone-of-israel-s-military-in-gaza#.VAiyHWK9KK0
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbit_Hermes_900
http://www.asdnews.com/mobile/news-40818/Elbit_Systems__Hermes_900:_Equipped_with_Multiple_Advanced_Payloads%2C_this_UAS_is_Leading_its_Class_in_Multi-Mission_Performance.htm
In the final link above it provides the spec for the Hermes 900, it holds jamming technology to jam people’s phone calls and also mentions the weather busting SATCOM Tech that utilises hyperspectral imaging , Iafter some more digging this is a technology (CHRIS) was developed by none other than SSTL!
See below link
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/mediacentre/press/2008/2032_sstls_hyperspectral_imager_celebrates_7_years_in_orbit.htm
“In addition, the two countries intend to carry out jointly exploration and operation of uranium deposits”
So France mines most of its Uranium in Niger,
The French and Americans run their drones from Niger,
the Americans lean on The French to stop supplying aircraft carriers to Russia,
now Russia will build a reactor for Algeria & dig for Uranium.
TIT FOR TAT
I have never seen “Molliex” anywhere else, Michael Norton, and don’t know if it means anything. “Mr. X” or a typo?
http://youtu.be/17cRTkG31_w
There is a Molliex Industrie near Chamonix, FWIW.
@Ricki Tarr: Hyperspectral imaging is the very issue that arose when GeoResonance found what it said was a plane in the Bay of Bengal after the disappearance of MH370.
http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/04/georesonance-press-release/
That, of course, is from the Disappearing Aircraft thread.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11030543.Army_s_eye_in_the_sky_begins_flying_in_Wiltshire/
https://www.opencompany.co.uk/company/04125692/ams-1087-limited
What a coincidence that Saad al-Hilli’s aerial photography company was in the place where the Thales Watchkeeper drone was tested.
See for yourself — drones that perch on walls, and swarms, shown in a mountainous setting. The sky’s the limit.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/33711/20110505JDN_211_UAS_v2U.pdf
We go around in circles, but maybe not endlessly:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213982/Did-Iran-spy-French-Alps-murder-victims-satellite-firm.html
Saad al-Hilli didn’t exactly “resign”, did he?
https://www.opencompany.co.uk/company/04125692/ams-1087-limited
Saad Al-hilli
Type Secretary
Nationality British
Date of Birth January 1962
Status Resigned
Appointed 18 September 2007
Resigned 5 September 2012
Address
26 Oaken Lane
Claygate
Surrey
KT10 0RG
AMS – Aerial Monitoring System, I think this was Saad specialty! As in AMS1087
Why would a company worth two pounds continue to be kept on the books, two years after the passing of one of the principals? Right. This was discussed in the past.
13% of the French people think Francois Hollande is doing a good job.
That high eh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29066005
If he wanted to encourage the French people to think better of their government he could have a word with the police chiefs and suggest they start solving crimes and cut down on the lies?
Only a helpful suggestion
David Cameron is quite angry that some “partners” are funding terrorists in The Sahel by paying for their nationals to be released, he did not specify which countries are doing this?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/04/david-cameron-isis-ransom-hostage-david-haines
Quote The Guardian
“Two Spanish and four French journalists have been released this year; after the four Frenchmen were set free there were reports in the German media that $18m had been paid, although this was denied by the French government.”
Also not forgetting the two Algerians who were released almost at the same instant as the Ukraine Antonov was crashed in Southern Algeria.
http://www.france24.com/en/20140831-algerian-diplomats-kidnapped-mali-2012-freed-guessas-miloudi/
However the Algerians are at pains to tell
no money changed hands.
Still four bodies to recover from the crashed Antonov, also the Black Boxes?
Who has the bodies?
Who has the Black Boxes?
Would it be The French who would decode the Black Boxes?
I have re-thought,
as The Antonov flew out of Glasgow-Prestwick as FLIGHT UKL4061,
I think the most likely place for the BLACK BOXES to be decoded would be
Farnborough, in Hampshire.
Perhaps if this is to be the case, the BBC might finally mentioned the crashed FLIGHT UKL4061
Tuerie de Chevaline : deux ans d’enquête et aucun espoir d’élucidation rapide | Le Dauphine |
I watched this docu yesterday, it brings home the scale of espionage going on at tech companies around the world, knowledge is king!
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/spies-lies-secrets/
I also found out that the Thales Watchkeeper technology was provided by Astrium so SSTL would have had access to this also, it is the same sort of tech to be honest, Elbit and US also involved in creation and development of the Watchkeeper!
Israel are at the forefront of Drone tech as they have used them for a long time, seems to be a war still rageing over this technology around the world, the same goes for Satellite’s, especially the low cost alternative offered by SSTL who have become a major player over the last 10 years.
The Spectral Imager can also find minerals etc could this be used for Uranium?
Yes, Ricki Tarr, spectral imaging can be used to find all kinds of minerals. Each has its own unique signature. Mining is the primary application for this sort of thing, but it can find anomalies, too — and this is what likely was used by GeoResonance to find a plane in the muck of the Bay of Bengal (still waiting for verification; no nation wants to check it out).
As the second anniversary of the Chevaline affair comes and goes, we have no definitive answers, but a better idea of why.
Well seeing as there where witnesses that saw a plane on fire in the bay of bengal, there isnt much hope for this line of investigation!
What has shocked me over the last 10 years is the frequency of these storeis from Al-Hilli, Gareth Williams, 9/11 to MH370/MH17, there is never ever any closure to what happened no official conclusions or people brought to justice! no one looses their jobs and the public including me sit there an lap it up! if there is any mention of National Security you can bet your bottom dollar no one will ever find out the truth and always points to something not being right! this problem is only going to get worse!
As William Casey of the CIA Director said:
“We will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”
“We hope you are happy where you are.” Flowers left at al-Hilli home.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-29075857
@Ricki Tarr: The fine people of Claygate don’t seem swayed by the disinformation.
http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2014/09/04/deux-ans-d-enquete-et-aucun-espoir-d-elucidation-rapide
This is utter garbage.
A clueless child could have written more sense.
Why do The French think everyone is as stupid as them?
@Q thanks for the link below
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Albertville/2014/07/06/article_de_chevaline_a_bozel_l_actualite_des_fai.shtml#.VAh5rxZeJOg
I had missed this. Interesting
With so little to go on (eyeroll), let’s just call it a “perfect crime” and forget the al-Hillis.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2744857/Was-Alps-murder-perfect-crime-Investigators-concede-mystery-deaths-Al-Hilli-family-never-solved-two-years-on.html
Kindly look the other way and move on, people. This could not possibly be a cover-up or an intelligence operation gone wrong. Saad had family connections to intelligence organizations, a highly-placed family with a past in Iraq that involved Sadaam Hussein (and Kurds?), he went for a “holiday” in Qom, Iran, and was once surveilled by British agents of some sort, and suddenly went on a holiday to a Swiss bank following phone calls from Romania to his brother, and was involved in an aerial photography and survey company at a location where the British test drones, and worked on satellites and jets, and whatever else has been exposed and explored here — but it means nothing, and there is no reason to believe that he and his family were anything but ordinary tourists. Forget about the children being under protection. Forget about the ambassador to France hastening to the scene of the crime. It’s all horse manure. BTW, every woman we know has a secret husband who dies on the day of her own assassination. Forget the other mysterious deaths, suicides and strange incidents in the Haute-Savoie in the interim. Forget it all. And forget Gareth Williams and other notorious incidents while you’re at it. Thank you.
Move on!!!