The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
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Yes the ‘spam’ is odd atm.
The post by ‘Google’ dated ’11 Sep, 2014 – 12:40 pm’ is particularly weird in that, looking at the source, the majority of it is written in html number format ( i.e. &#nnnn; )
Have a look at the page source – the weird stuff is in red.
Now the 8000 series for stuff like quotation marks (nnnn = 8217)seems reasonable, but normal alphanumeric characters?
It looks like someone doing test runs . . . . .
Indeed Ricki Tarr
11 Sep, 2014 – 12:22 pm. I have long thought there is a need for a new religion and a new politics that reflect where civilization and science have brought us, avoiding the rampant atheistic materialism of a certain well known selfish gene, and the narrow nonsense of religious fundamentalists of whatever persuasion. Greens come close but have their own irrational obsessions and blind spots. We have to maximise science but also look beyond immediate consequences. Short-term gains can have long term disastrous consequences. Somehow we have to control greed and consumption whilst maintaining economic prosperity; limit exponential population growth; address the gap between rich and poor that only seems to be getting wider and with wars fuels massive migration. And so it goes on. I’m convinced part of the reason the SNats have done so well is that the traditional parties and political system has lost touch with the real issues and underlying desires of the people. If nothing else the possibility of the UK breaking up has very belatedly – perhaps too late – enlivened the political debate. If Scotland goes who knows the consequences.
deja vu?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2752691/Harry-crash-drama-Prince-s-shock-motorobike-outrider-smashes-head-taxi.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Mannakee
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11 Sep, 2014 – 10:23 am the Times reports he had been asked to reapply for his job (humiliating) The police are unconcerned and are just helping the coroner. So that’s all right then. It only took eleven days to announce Dr Veitch’s identity mind you nor is there any explanation how he came to be where he was. People who drown off St Ives are usually found further up the coast towards Padstow. He apparently was discovered floating west of the resort. Just a small observation. It appears he lived alone in Ascot and tended to keep himself to himself.
He was an expert in flavonoids. So nothing interesting there then….
“There has been increasing interest in the research on flavonoids from plant sources because of their versatile health benefits reported in various epidemiological studies. Since flavonoids are directly associated with human dietary ingredients and health, there is need to evaluate structure and function relationship. The bioavailability, metabolism, and biological activity of flavonoids depend upon the configuration, total number of hydroxyl groups, and substitution of functional groups about their nuclear structure. Fruits and vegetables are the main dietary sources of flavonoids for humans, along with tea and wine. Most recent researches have focused on the health aspects of flavonoids for humans. Many flavonoids are shown to have antioxidative activity, free radical scavenging capacity, coronary heart disease prevention, hepatoprotective, anti-inflammatory, and anticancer activities, while some flavonoids exhibit potential antiviral activities. In plant systems, flavonoids help in combating oxidative stress and act as growth regulators. For pharmaceutical purposes cost-effective bulk production of different types of flavonoids has been made possible with the help of microbial biotechnology. This review highlights the structural features of flavonoids, their beneficial roles in human health, and significance in plants as well as their microbial production.”
Yea but how about this little bit of information?
“A plant has been found to halt the deadly Ebola virus in its tracks in laboratory tests, scientists have said.
“The extract can be eaten or rubbed into the skin. They used a compound from Garcinia kola, a plant commonly eaten in West Africa. Compounds from the plant have also proved effective against some strains of flu.
“If the anti-Ebola compound proves successful in animal and human trials, it will be the first medicine to successfully treat the virus that causes Ebola haemorrhagic fever – an often-fatal condition.
“The discovery was announced at the 16th International Botanical Congress in St Louis in the US.”
How an innocent event can take on more sinister possibilities. Thankyou last night’s horizon program for the clue.
Looks like there’s been another shooting ambush in The Savoie, this time in La Motte-Servolex
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2014/09/11/la-victime-visee-par-un-guet-apens
At least two individuals were waiting and shot at him. They did however not affected and the “target”, which seems to be a real ambush, managed to escape after a chase. These facts, to say the least unusual, created great excitement among Motterains.
Almost like the Wild West, in this part of France.
Francois takes a trip to Iraq, perhaps he will chat with the new Iraqi head honcho about
The Slaughter at Chevaline?
http://www.france24.com/en/20140912-iraq-hollande-islamic-state-security-france/
Business as usual, then, Michael Norton.
Take a look at this, Tim Veater:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunella_vulgaris
Internal bleeding? Hmmm. Some wondered why Lachlan Cranswick took an interest in this plant, and whether it had anything to do with his mysterious midnight disappearance. There was considerable speculation at the time that his death was the result of “intelligence”. It’s not just microbiologists who are dying at an astonishing rate. It’s X-ray crystallographers, too.
@Tim Veater:
An aside:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1466856410001104
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2672.2003.02026.x/full
FWIW, Cranswick was found in shallow water. How he fell through frozen river ice in the middle of January is not known. There were no footprints in the snow at the river’s edge. Shallow water freezes first in the winter, and freezes solid. Cranswick would have had to drill a rather large hole with an ice auger to fall into. A slender man, this would have taken great strength and considerable time. He did not own a power ice auger, nor did he fish, and someone would have heard him, if this preposterous event had happened. He was found by fishermen in a rocky area where the local fishermen say there are no fish. The local fishermen say the area is too rocky and shallow for boats. Just a few hours earlier the same day, another body was found by fishermen in boats in the nation’s capital near the PM’s residence. When Cranswick was found, there was also speculation, due to some terribly-misplaced police cars from the wrong city that were photographed by the media, that just enough time had elapsed to drive from one city to another. You see, it’s the little details that start these lines of inquiry. The weather at the time also did not match the photos.
Also of note, Tim V., Lachlan Cranswick worked for the National Research Council of Canada at the Canadian Neutron Beam Centre.
http://www.macleans.ca/society/health/scientists-at-canadas-national-lab-created-tested-ebola-drug-zmapp/
http://www.defyrus.com/images/News-July152014-ZMAb-license.pdf
“Defyrus is a Canadian private, life sciences biodefence company that
collaborates with military and public health R&D partners in the United States, Asia and Canada to develop broad spectrum anti-viral drugs, MAbs and vaccines as medical countermeasures to viral and bacterial infectious diseases. http://www.defyrus.com”
Z-Mapp is indeed plant-based, and is grown in tobacco.
Cranswick was acknowledged internationally for his technical expertise in X-ray crystallography. He also specialized in neutron beam testing. Much of the work done at the centre is for private companies, and remains proprietary. He allegedly finished a report of some kind on the day he went missing.
Good in Parts – interesting thanks for looking, I thought they maybe part of an attack of some sort maybe to expose user accounts? Or to split up posts and confuse the format and understanding of readers?
Tim V – that is an amazing find re the scientist and his connection to Ebola medicine. It’s a dangerous profession it seems to be an expert in any field at then moment! Operation brain drain!
I had also begin to consider if “persons X” were posting nonsense to this site in order to disrupt.
Q
12 Sep, 2014 – 3:20 pm I remember it well and good for you for not letting it drop. Nor have forgotten he went missing in Jan 2010 and was found in June and how this strangely dovetailed with Ben Zygier including the Australian connection. No one could have overlooked the new high profile PR CIA support role Australia has suddenly adopted – cite wh370 and 17/ukraine/isis etc. Was Zygier/Cranswick the start of all this? This continental shift from britain to america has happening for years, but they now seem to be fully paid up members of langley. Now as to Veitch, ebola is the new plague that threatens from afar – a true biological weapon around which there is some controversy rather akin to the origins of aids. What has been highlighted by the horizon programme is that the untested american developed vaccine just happened to be available for two westerners in east africa when required. Porton down, where of course biological and chemical weapons material and their anti-dote were for a long time developed, has been involved in understanding ebola and developing a british vaccine which by all accounts involves using flavanoid plants, so we come full circle back to veitch. It may all be totally innocent but the man got in the sea some how either by choice or not. We also know that sometimes scientists are specifically targeted, in fact thousands have been in the Iraqi context largely unreported in the West. From one angle this also was the case at Chevaline.
This is a relevant lift from (Reuters) – “The first human volunteer in a fast-tracked British safety trial of an experimental vaccine to fight Ebola is to be injected with the shot next week, organisers of the trial said on Friday.
The candidate Ebola vaccine is being co-developed by the United States National Institutes of Health and the British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline.
The British trial, which will ultimately involve 60 people, is part of a series of safety tests of potential vaccines aimed at preventing infection with the virus that has killed more than 2,400 people in West Africa this year in the world’s largest Ebola outbreak on record.”
Of course we have to distinguish between protective vaccination and treatment using some other preparation. How you get an effective treatment without trials is the question posed by the almost miraculous cures, whilst meanwhile thousands die without even basic nursing in east Africa. Then there was the death of the British High Commissioner on his return trip from Texas to Nigeria from apparently natural causes although people held back in case it was ebola. Or maybe something else. His last words were “Help. Help.”
“The trial will be led by Professor Adrian Hill of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, which said on Friday the first shot is scheduled to be given to a human volunteer next week.
It gave no gender, age or other details of the volunteer, and said the planned injection day of Wednesday, Sept. 17, may also be subject to change.
The vaccine is designed to specifically target the Zaire species of Ebola – the one circulating in the current West Africa epidemic. This strain can have a mortality rate of up to 90 percent, according to the World Health Organisation.
The trial is testing the vaccine on healthy volunteers with the goal of determining whether it is safe and whether it provokes a protective immune response.”
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S.A.F. Secours Aérien Français, Albertville, Savoie
have bought another helecopter,
a SUPER-PUMA, One of the few in Europe to be able to lift loads of more than four tons.
Grignon is two Kilometres from S.A.F. Albertville,
Grignon is where The Pharmacie Schutz is located, adjacent to The Sapeur- Pompier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zKTZLXCxY
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2014/09/12/le-saf-a-acquis-un-super-puma
Very interesting indeed.
I wonder how many mountain massacres occur, so very close to an emergency mountain helecopter center?
S.A.F. HELICOPTERES’ first vocation has always been mountain rescue. In 1979, Roland FRAISSINET, who was very concerned about the rescuing of people in danger and the potential of helicopters in the mountain area, created the SECOURS AERIEN FRANCAIS. In conjunction with the mayors of the mountain towns, the French Civil Protection direction and all authorities he constantly strove to develop aerial rescue.
http://www.saf-helicopters.com/en/saf_helicopteres/secours/secours_par_helicopteres.php
You might imagine that these helecopter services were used in the Slaughter of the Horses incident two years ago.
There certainly would not have been an emergency mountain helecopter service nearer.
The 8 year old al Hilli girl was probably flown out by helecopter
Timely coincidence, tim. that’s for you regarding your recent topic. They kill the scientist and then they blaze the lab?
A £15 million wooden chemistry laboratory will continue to burn for a further 24 hours, firefighters confirmed today.
The Carbon Neutral Laboratory for Sustainable Chemistry at Nottingham University was destroyed after it several fires broke out inside the state-of-the-art building on Friday night.
The laboratory, which was part-funded by a £12 million grant from pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline was due to open for the first time next year.
The GlaxoSmithKline Carbon Neutral Laboratory for Sustainable Chemistry is a landmark building which is the embodiment of the University’s commitment to sustainability in all its forms, particularly in the area of green chemistry and we will be working closely with our partners at GSK, and the contractors Morgan Sindall, to develop a positive plan of action for rebuilding.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754270/New-15million-university-laboratory-goes-flames-Students-warned-stay-indoors-60-firefighters-battle-blaze.html
tim v., follow up for you and follow up to the explosion/fire as reported above.
Wasnt the Morange/Schutz pharmacy some kind of “green chemistry”, too?
GlaxoSmithKline became involved in the Ebola vaccine because it bought Swiss vaccine company Okairos AG in 2013. Okairos, originally a Merck spinoff, had been working on the vaccine with the NIH since 2011, a GlaxoSmithKline spokeswoman told ABC News.
The GlaxoSmithKline Carbon Neutral Laboratory for Sustainable Chemistry is a landmark building which is the embodiment of the University’s commitment to sustainability in all its forms, particularly in the area of green chemistry and we will be working closely with our partners at GSK, and the contractors Morgan Sindall, to develop a positive plan of action for rebuilding.’
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/human-trial-ebola-vaccine-begin-week/story?id=25204379
Tuesday third of June 2014,
that’s the day when the Mountainman, ex-Legionnaire, ex-paratrooper, Sapeur-Pompier
may have committed suicide in Ugine, Savoie,( who was intimate with The Family Mollier)
so more than a quarter of a year has gone by, yet this man’s name has not yet be given out.
Some might consider this suspicious?
Qui est la personne brave qui va nous dire le nom de l’homme suicidé, l’homme au centre du mystère des meurtres a Chevaline?
Do you suppose this was used to find a child in a vehicle parked in a mountainside parking lot two years ago?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_looking_infrared
http://www.lw.admin.ch/internet/luftwaffe/en/home/dokumentation/assets/helicopter/super.html
All SAR helicopters now have infrared systems, according to this blog entry from the Paris Air Show in 2011.
http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2011/06/swir–infrared-hd.html
So why did it take so long to find a child? This is completely baffling. I have never believed that all this very expensive, high tech, standard equipment was nearly useless at Chevaline. It’s on par with saying that all the military aircraft in the South China Sea is grounded at 4 p.m., and can’t operate in the dark. (And of course we know that civilian passenger planes, which are far below the capabilities of leading-edge military fighter jets, do operate after dark on instruments.)
If anything, infrared would be more effective at night, when the air and ground are cooler. People can and have been found in heavily-forested areas at night, using this kind of equipment. Again, reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_looking_infrared
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Yes Q
that sort of forward looking heat detection would be of particular use to a helecopter
rescue service working in the Alps,
like S.A.F. Secours Aérien Français, Albertville, Savoie,
based TWO KILOMETRES fron The Parmacie Schutz, Grignon,
where I strongly believe Claire and Sylvain were domiciled.