The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
My reasoning for believing that Claire Schutz and Sylvain Mollier being domiciled in
The Pharmacie Schultz has been outlined previously.
We know that sometime before her son was born she took legal ownership of the pharmacie in Grignon. Claire was already the manager of this business. She was combining being a business owner, being the shop manager and being a mother of not just her new born son but also the two sons of Sylvain. This would not be practical from Ugine.
Now Sylvain we have been told had taken a three year break from Cezus in Ugine, we have been told he lived in Ugine.
It is perfectly possible that Sylvain did own a property in Ugine, he may have still been registered on the electoral role at that property in Ugine but that does not mean he was still actively living there.
The only way Claire could have successfully managed her pharmacie, which for much of the day she would have to be physically in the building, serving her clients, and care for her new born baby would be if she lived in the building of the pharmacie at Grignon
or in an adjacent building.
Sylvain had taken long term leave from his work in Cezus, Ugine, so he could look after his three sons, the new born with Claire and his two sons with his former wife.
It would have been ludicrous for them to live in separate properties fifteen Kilometres apart.
There would of course have been a transition period when they had their own dwellings but spent much time together but on the birth of their child, three months prior to The Slaughter of the Horses incident, that transition period would have already been over
BUT it is possible that Sylvain still “lived” in his property in Ugine, as has been suggested by Eric, that may have been the legal/official line
but it would not be the actual personal situation.
Let’s try to test my suggestion that Claire and Sylvain and the three children lived at or adjacent to The Pharmacie Schutz, Grignon.
On the day of The Slaughter of the Horses incident,
Claire allowed Sylvain an agreed number of hours to go and blow off some steam,
on his Bicycle, they had also agreed the route he would be taking.
When he did not return she called someone official, then she was asked to bring in a photograph of Sylvain.
During this time it is very, very likely she was looking after her three month old son and working in The Pharmacie Schutz, Grigon, adjacent to the Sapeur-Pompier.
If Sylvain was going to be looking after his 0-3 month old son he would be in a nearby room
to Claire, that nearby room would not be fifteen Kilometres away in Ugine, it would be THe Pharmacie Grignon.
Which bicycle?
The bicycle that Sylvain Mollier was riding that day has not been shown.
If it was indeed a four or five thousand Euro racing bike, two years after the death of Sylvain I am sure his executors would have called for that valuable bicycle to be returned, probably so it could be sold to get some money for the upkeep of his three sons.
The executors would be failing in their legal duty if they did not demand the return of this bicycle, worth four of five thousand Euros.
Three things, at least are linked here.
The address where Sylvain, Claire and the three boys were actually living,
The route that Sylvain intended to cycle(as agreed with Claire),
The bicycle on which he rode that day.
Most cyclists prefer a round route rather than and up and down route.
I suggest that on that day Sylvain went out on a mountain bike, intending to ride from The Pharmacie Schutz, around to Chevaline, up through the mountain track and South back to The Pharmacie Schutz in Grignon.
He would not have done this if he road a five thousand Euros racing bike,
he would not have done this if he did not live at THe Pharmacie Schutz in GRignon.
Hence why Eric has not let the world see this bycycle.
Hence why Eric wants the world to believe Sylvain lived in Ugine.
MN
I disagree here.
The Schutz parents hated SM.
If you are a guy who has no good relationship with your bride’s parents then you better dont stay in/near their house.
There was no mentioning on leo’s and mathis’ fb pages that they ever lived in Grignon. Nothing.
Also from SM’s house to the Grignon pharmacy it is only a mere 15 minutes drive by car. Most people need more time in the morning for driving to their office.
I dont think that they had lived in Grignon at that time because it wouldnt make any sense for SM nor for Ms.Schutz.
Bluebird, I think I am correct.
However you may be correct.
Let us see if there is a possible scenario that combines both.
Let’s suggest that they spend the nights as a family in Ugine.
Claire is now a new mother, probably breastfeeding.
Claire is now the business owner.
Claire has been the manager for some tome.
Claire spends her days at The Parmaicie Schutz in Grignon, adjacent to the Sapeur-Pompier.
Sylvain has left work for three years to assist Claire with the care of her newborn and allow her to manage her business in Grignon.
Even if they are spending their nights as a family in Ugine, they are both spending their days in The Pharmacie Schutz in Grignon, adjacent to the Sapeur-Pompier.
While Claire is serving her clients in the pharmacie, Sylvain will be very close by with the new born, perhaps, some times, in the shop but certainly within the same building
or in the close area.
Now if on the day of The Slaughter of the Horses incident Sylvain and Claire have agreed that Sylvain can have a certain number of hours to get away from the shop on his bike, it will be from the pharmacie in Grignon, adjacent to the Sapeur-Pompiers, that he cycles from and it will be expected by Claire and Sylvain that he will return ( within an hour) to the pharmacie in Grignon.
So what bike was he riding that terrible day?
Was it a mountain bike and was he doing a round route, going up to pass Le Martinet and continuing across the mountain going South and back to The Pharmacie Schutz in Grignon.
If he became late and Claire could not get an answer on his mobile phone, she probably walked the ten metres from her pharmacie to talk to her friends in the Sapeur-Pompier, who are often the first responders.
When this happens you want an independent contractor that is not bound to any particular brand
or product. More than 200 firefighters responded to the
fire, and many Chicago Firefighters returned to the scene of the blaze several times on Saturday to monitor “hot spots. Flat roofing is particularly the most relevant roofing plan for hot and dry climates.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219692/The-Rottweiler-Effect-Politician-shared-Valerie-Trierweiler-mistress-Francois-Hollande-election-victory-branded-illegal.html
http://www.senat.fr/questions/base/2004/qSEQ04110606S.html
Ugine, Hollande, Trierweiler and Patrick Devedjian: what do you make of this?
I’m not sure why this comes up on further searches about the old Ugine factory site, but if you move your cursor around, you see nearby 1 REP French Foreign Legion land:
http://wikimapia.org/1483242/Site-de-l-ancienne-usine-Ugine-Aciers-de-l-Ardoise
http://www.laudunlardoise.fr/article.php?rub=110&art=346
From September 2012. And from 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fX3Egevc0w
This had to be fresh in everyone’s minds in September 2012, as the dismantling project was still ongoing.
http://www.laudunlardoise.fr/article.php?rub=110&art=346
Another close friend of Sarkozy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Devedjian
Tears and Steel was published in May, 2012:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genevi%C3%A8ve-Rabier/e/B008968ZKY/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1
So, yes, feelings were probably running high in 2012.
So close to the old Ugine Steel factory in L’Ardoise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Foreign_Engineer_Regiment
@Michael Norton,I kept an eye on bikes and originally thought SM was riding a mountain bike because that is what the spokesman, I think it was the mayor said he normally did a few times a week .
BM was on a mountain bike and I did see one of the policeman at the bottom of the CDI holding on to a mountain bike whilst doing his duties protecting the entrance, he didn’t put it to one side as if it was his own but was holding on to it ,I would guess but it is only a guess that it was BM’s bike while he was taken to the police station for interview.
SAH had a mountain bike on the roof of the car when he arrived at the campsite and I saw that in the awning at the caravan so it’s a fair guess that he did not have a bike with him .
I am not sure how SM’s bike became a racing bike maybe that is something to look back for information on .
It will be in the archives here and on David Icke as I know there was a lot of bike chat about timings etc .
A photo was found showing some bikes outside BM’s rental property.
I think any relevant photos that we spotted got removed like the one showing the bike and one showing a green 4×4 at the bottom of CDI ,I also found a rather interesting number plate some may remember.
There was a BBC video showing the cyclist I presume SM coming from the other direction that has been deleted, whether that was because it was inaccurate or some other reason I don’t know.
That was also discussed though and will be in the archives fairly early on so if anyone comes across it here or Ickes perhaps they will post a link.
One little niggle I have is I saw a photo showing a childs pink bike behind the caravan ,I have never found it and all the photo’s I do find do not have the bike there I am puzzled by this and I cannot be sure of what I thought I saw ,I know I commented on it at the time because I remember wondering did they leave in a hurry and forget to put the bike in the awning or did I have a brain fart and the bike was never there.
I can’t help but think the bikes have some importance as we poured over any photo’s at great length and the bike didnt appear in any of them until Max and co at MZT turned up that wide angle shot showing what looks like a bike under the trees.
EM orginally said SM’s bike was thrown in the corner of the parking and I spent ages trying to work out what would be considered the corner. 🙂
What was going on in 2012?
http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/sarkozy-traite-de-couillon-un-journaliste-qui-l-interrogeait-sur-arcelor-mittal_1094102.html
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2012/03/01/97002-20120301FILWWW00397-florange-arcelor-va-investir-17-m-sarkozy.php
http://www.bilan-sarkozy.com/sarkozy-arcelor-mittal-gandrange-florange/
http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2012/03/01/nicolas-sarkozy-annonce-le-redemarrage-du-haut-fourneau-de-florange_1649993_3234.html
http://www.20minutes.fr/economie/889743-arcelormittal-malgre-annonce-sarkozy-site-florange-loin-etre-sauve
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/economie/20120313.OBS3617/arcelormittal-sarkozy-accuse-la-cgt-de-vouloir-jouer-un-role-politique.html
It was all about the steel industry during the election campaign. There were hints about someone being in someone’s pocket. Tear gas was used on steelworkers: tears and metal.
After the election:
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/26/arcelormittal-france-steel-factory-closures
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-20496780
There was strong talk of seizing the Florange factory from the owners, once Hollande was in office.
There a connection to Sarkozy from 2004, via Patrick Devedjian, Minister of Industry who was involved in the discussions about the old steel factory in Laudun-l’Ardoise.
http://www.senat.fr/questions/base/2004/qSEQ04110606S.html
Sarkozy is a personal friend of Pierre Morange, brother of the retired Schutz-Morange pharmacy co-owner in Grignon. Pierre Morange advised the Schutz family, including his niece Claire Schutz (whose partner Sylvain Mollier was murdered in Chevaline in 2012). Pierre Morange is packing heat because he believes himself to be in some sort of danger.
ArecelorMittal is opposed to economic sanctions against Russia, due to its own self-interest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArcelorMittal
How can this be ignore in connection to the murder of Ugine CEZUS-AREVA steel worker Sylvain Mollier in September 2012? It is preposterous to continue the ruse that Sylvain Mollier was not a target. He appears to be not only a target but the primary target. What was his connection to the al-Hillis? I do not believe that they were there by accident. This was a planned event, with timing that went slightly off, IMO.
The suicided eX-Legionnaire’s role is becoming clearer. What are the chances that the French Foreign Legion uses the same bank as ArcelorMittal, and that Saad al-Hilli visited a Crédit Agricole in Switzerland before he was assassinated?
http://www.credit-agricole.com/en/News-analysis/News/The-Group/ArcelorMittal-chooses-Credit-Agricole-CIB
Speaking of things that are green, Bluebird, green is also the colour of money:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9dit_Agricole
Pink
The “pink childs bike” is in the news video footage.
Your brain didn’t “fart”. It was there. It was in the “tent”.
I personally believe that the target was Mollier…and the “conspiracy” is how bad the French police can act. Eric even stated (in an interview in a French Newspaper) how shocked he was a t the media coverage ! Hello !
If ** is responsible for setting this thing up to murder SM (and it got out of hand) is one thing. But he needed help (you know who I mean wink wink). It would have been a “local” issue then. Of course BECAUSE it got “out of hand” other things had to be done.
A clear case of “disaster management”. And there is you conspiracy.
In a “nutshell”. French politicians who hold considerable power can effectively “rub out” who they need to (as a favour). Like a “mini mafia”.
What I am suggesting is:
Eric Maillaud and W.B.M.
are wanting us to believe that Sylvain Mollier went for a cycle ride on
a multi – thousand Euro racing bike,
so he would cycle up to Le Martinet and back down the same way, doing no business on route.
Eric Maillaud wants us to believe that Sylvain Mollier started his cycle ride on that fateful day, from Ugine.
Eric Maillaud does not want us to think that Sylvain was starting his cycle ride from The Pharmacie Schutz in Grignon, adjacent to the Sapeur-Pompier.
ERic Maillaud does not want us to think that Sylvain was on a mountain bike.
Eric Maillaud does not want us to think that it was the intention of Sylvain to cycle up to Le Martinet, undertake some business with the al Hilli family, then continue on South across the mountain on the tracks.
This is why Eric tells us that Sylvain lived in Ugine
This is why Eric does not want us to see the bike Sylvain was riding that day.
Eric is attempting to pull the wool over our eyes.
To add to that….previously to the Mollier Murder.
We had the “assassination” of the police chief/mayor bloke.
And the attempted murder of the metal workers union (a she).
Mr Norton….
Kind of correct.
Eric is…. not wanting this case. It’s a political “hot potato”.
Remove Al Hilli from the shooting and what do you have ?
You have an “unexplainable visit by Mollier to the Martinet”.
But who cares.
It’s all forgotten two years later.
He’s dead….move on.
But then the Al Hilli family appear ! Jesus, now it’s “main stream news”.
Who was that metalworker, MN?
like elsewhere, France has its own rustbelt:
http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2013/05/24/finding-the-face-of-frances-unemployed/
“When a site closes most of the steel workers are relocated to other sites or take retirement. The most impacted are temporary workers or subcontractors who are often difficult to meet with and also don’t want to testify on their situation fearing consequences.”
An aside:
More camping troubles in France, with roving bands of thieves who gas campers while they sleep:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560520/Beware-sleeping-gas-gang-caravanners-told.html
That’s a tactic used by mercenaries. FWIW, the correct term for mercenaries is “security contractor”. What do those types do for income between contracts?
For background on the use of mercenaries in Iraq:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/12/01/DI2008120100773.html
Q
Twas the female head who was attacked. Back in 2012.
Think “mafia”. Think “politics”. Think “how do we get rid of this problem”.
I think the French have “wholesale” taken to this idea.
….the beheadings currently ? The French after agree to “stand with The West”, started to pay ISIS/ISIL/IS (what the feck they are calling it now) the cash.
No big deal…. but the French have (erm) become good at “politics”.
With the Mollier killing. Someone knew someone who could sort it out.
It just got way out of hand.
Now… the bike has gone. The gun has gone. No doubt the shooter has gone.
No worries now.
Remembering “calls to Romania”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi_Mittal
The “mistake”. There’s always a mistake.
The 2eREP guy. It made the news. Even Eric was interested. He should have said nothing.
So “who” was he ?
Did he hire someone ?
Was he a friend of Mollier (recall the sons facebook page).
the “prisoner X” outcome was interesting I thought.
Mossad agent who f*cked up. Jailed. Wife shafted him. End of him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-Cross_System
Double-Cross had agent “Tricycle”. Did Single-X have agent “Bicycle”?
Oh, well. Back at it.
No… X was….
X was trying to play “wise guy”.
Guess he wasn’t wise enough. So ends the career of another “wise guy”.
Like Chevaline.
I guess someone didn’t want to be associated with someone else getting carried away.