The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@Michael Norton.
The problem is the racing bike. Would that have been released if WBM had not gone on air ?
WBM gave up his privacy and went to the U.K. to give his interview.
The French would not have carried that interview (or even done it) had he been in France.
It was WBM that has caused the French police “Le Headache”. It would have been better for Eric if they never mentioned the racing bike at all.
Mollier’s ex wife called him and spoke to him before the murder took place (not Claire).
Is that significant ? Maybe.
Remember it was the “call logs that took place in the area” that were leaked (and this information was on them) and not the contents of Mollier’s phone. Surely it would have been on Mollier’s phone as a call received (date and time). Eric would have had this information from the start.
Eric is constantly “fire fighting” the leaks.
The BBC ran an interview with ONF1. That immediately gave rise to the fact that another ONF vehicle had seem the motorcyclist….and spoken to him.
The next thing…. we get the “photo fit”.
So bad has this investigation become they have already run an internal audit (and will not release those findings). Eric is even in a legal battle over the “leaked” photograph of Mollier. It was his department that leaked it !!!
How bad can this get !
No one (involved) knew how big this case would become. If it was a cyclist murdered on an isolated car park somewhere in The Alps….who would care ? The locals ? Nah.
Michael Norton….
Here’s one for you. Why were the Al Hilli family killed ?
Because they were a witness ?
No way. The killer knew he would be “away” and not caught.
So confident of this fact, he even spoke to the ONF2 team.
Because they could reach help ?
Doubtful. The motorcyclist knew he had two options for escape.
And he was faster.
How about…. because they were in the way of his task ?
It seems likely that the attack began in the “north” of the car park.
Mollier likely ran.
Most likely towards the Al Hill car. A barrier. The only barrier around.
But we “know” Mollier did not end up in the “north” of the car park.
He ended up next to/ in front of the BMW. How ?
Two choices.
He was run over (eh !)
He grabbed onto the car as Al Hilli was trying to get his family away.
Remember the broken roof rack that no one mentions anymore.
It was Mollier that was attacked. He was the target.
By 8am on the 6th of September 2012 the police concluded he WAS NOT THE TARGET.
How did they do that ?????
Good point, Tim. No one mentions that broken roof rack now. It’s not convenient.
Q…. ya cheeky monkey !
The way I see it….
1. The gunman shot at Mollier first. At the North of the car park.
2. He runs towards the BMW driven by Al Hilli.
3. Shots may have been fired at Al Hilli at this point (it’s RHD so he is exposed).
4. Al Hilli is able to drive at this point (engage reverse gear and steer).
5. Mollier grabs the moving vehicle.
6. Al Hilli is hit somewhere at this point.
7. Mollier falls of the car as the roof rack breaks.
Maybe even partially under the moving car.
8. ….and the rest is history.
Eric knows that the roof rack is on ground (and has snapped off).
But he “can’t” (or won’t) explain why that happened.
Recall.
Two casings are found in the north of the car park. The bike is also.
There is glass in the north of the car park.
Mollier is found by Martin “near the front of the BMW”.
Mollier was the target.
Why have the police lied ?
What was he doing there in the first place ?
Are we still to assume that Zaid al Hilli
is still the prime suspect of Eric?
If Zaid is still the prime suspect of Eric, why doesn’t Eric get himself on a train and travel to Surrey and formally interview Zaid.
Zaid has offered to be interrogated by “The French”
but Zaid does not trust “The French” and will not travel to France.
Zaid has offered to take a lie-Detector Test as well but nobody is really interested.
If Eric really, really believes Zaid is the guilty party why not push it?
Article writing is also a fun, if you be acquainted with afterward you
can write if not it is complicated to write.
How is Eric getting on with his suggestion to the Americans that they should dig up Jimmy,
Mrs. al Hilli’s previous husband?
How are “Mollier’s family” getting on with their legal case against BFMTV.
If that case “goes silent” then you just know the French (who leaked it) are up to no good.
Who (of “Mollier’s family”) filed the case ?
The Mollier’s ? The ex Mrs Mollier ? The Schultz family ?
Who is forcing who into court ?
Michael Norton
16 Sep, 2014 – 6:51 pm you may remember that EM and a mate were in on the ZAH about 6 months after the event but weren’t allowed to ask the questions as I remember it being reported. The interviewing was done by the British detectives and the French were observers only. Perhaps a more intriguing question is why Eric didn’t go for the European areest warrant that Britain is fully signed up to as per Assange? Oh and sorry I put the call down to Claire. It was of course his first wife. (Senior moment!) I posed the thought a long time ago that it is not beyond the realms of possibility he was on the phone when the shooting kicked off. Alternatively he could have arrived at the layby. At the very least its probable he stopped to answer it. That call is crucial as is his phone as amongst other things it nails the last known time he was alive. What happened to his phone? Was it recovered or taken by whoever frisked him – murderer or other? Oh the mobile phones about which we know next to nothing but the police know a lot yet according to Eric NOT ONE lead!
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The question still remains why Claire went to the exact location (or would have if she hadn’t been blocked) Did she phone his ex or did a helpful local (emergency or forestry worker) give her a tip-off?
I’m not sure if Claire went to the bottom of the Combe D’Ire.
Or if she went to the police station first…with a photo.
Either way…it’s odd. And “unexplained”.
Was Mollier’s phone there ? Had it gone ?
Who knows (they would have found LR’s call earlier then !) again…. all very odd.
Whichever way you look at it.
The “investigation” seems to have “relied on” Al Hilli to be the “bad man”.
But it is crumbling everyday now.
Recall Mr Mayor ?
He wasn’t there that day. He was out in the hills walking.
Then he was at the scene.
Then he was at Claire’s house.
Then he was talking mountain bikes to the cameras.
For an old man…he moves fast.
So ….”who got this local man lost” ?
Clearly he should not have been up that hill or at that place (officially).
He was “riding around Annecy”.
An “bush whack” doesn’t just happen. It takes planning.
The gunman knew Mollier would be there. Who else did ?
And why are the French so “protective” of this “someone” ?
James, I think we need to consider who has connections that reach high enough to limit the investigators of the Chevaline assassinations. Why would the British sent Sir Peter Ricketts to handle this case, if it were just a local feud between mountain men? Who could reach high enough not only to stop the investigation in its tracks, but also arrange for a cover-up? Who could muzzle the press? Who?
Great article. I am dealing with a few of these issues as well..
I suggest Sylvain Mollier left Claire Schutz, their baby son and The Pharmacie Schutz at Grignon and went for an arranged cycle ride.
After a couple of hours, perhaps Claire tried to call him on his mobile phone, perhaps she was anxious. Perhaps she then rang the ex-Mrs.Mollier .
Perhaps the Ex-Mrs.Mollier then tried to ring Sylvain.
Perhaps that phone call between the Ex-Mrs.Mollier and Mr.Mollier was interupted or at least worrying. The Ex-Mrs.Mollier then rang Claire to tell he of her concerns.
Claire then tried again to ring Sylvain — phone now dead.
Claire is in a panick and she is holding a three month baby, she walks the ten metres to her friends in the Sapeur-Pompier and tells of her fears.
More news for SAF Helecopters in Albertville ( 2k from The Pharmacie Schutz, Grignon)
http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2014/09/16/l-ancien-chef-comptable-du-saf-avait-detourne-555-000
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2014/09/12/le-saf-a-acquis-un-super-puma
Accountant filches 1/2 million Euros from SAF Helecopters, Albertville.
Five people have been arrested near Lyon on suspicions of recruiting young women to join Islamist groups fighting in Syria, France 24 said. The arrests were made on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings in the Lyon area in central France, according to Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve. France has drafted a law aimed at stopping aspiring jihadists from traveling. It includes a ban on foreign travel for up to six months for individuals suspected of radicalization, and the authorities can invalidate their passports temporarily.
From 2009. The public has lost faith in the French media. Politicians rewrite their own interviews for publication, it says, and friends of Sarkozy own media outlets. Sarkozy’s solution: give newspapers away. As we saw in the 2012 presidential election, this did not ultimately work in his favor.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/jan/23/sarkozy-pledges-state-aid-to-newspapers
Q
I think early on it was “known” that things were “not right”.
Ricketts did show up. He is the British Ambassador to France.
But look at what else happened (and was critiqued in France). The local police team was “instructed” not to touch the crime scene. Instead a central team from Paris were called in to undertake this role. I doubt that has ever been done before.
Why did the investigation “immediately” go from “local” to “central” ?
It could be argued that “the game was afoot”. Some conspiracy.
But to me there seems to have been a “distrust” of the local boys from the start.
What suspicions existed “before” the shootings ?
Better still, with regard the Neyret (the super cop from Lyon), what did the French Interior Minister say regarding his suspension…..
It was a “traumatic time for French police”.
A fellow office went on record to say “He knew the crooks better than anyone, but as a result, they knew him better than anyone.”
A further three arrests of “high ranking” police officers followed in Lyon and Grenoble.
And another suspension. The Grenoble Chief of Police, Mr Christophe Gavat no less.
This isn’t just “bent coppers”, this is high ranking police officers who are involved with organised criminals.
Does “Paris” trust what is going on elsewhere in the country ?
I suspect that is why “Paris” was called in.
The French media were called the “media musketeers” in 2010. This article further revealed that the head of France Télévisions, the three government-owned channels, was hand-picked by then-President Sarkozy. Further, the article says that Sarkozy influenced the hiring, firing and stymying of individual reporters:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/jul/05/nicolas-sarkozy-french-media
Social media, however, is another story. It seems that things like online forums might not be so easy to use for one’s own ends.
https://econsultancy.com/blog/11069-hollande-and-sarkozy-how-not-to-use-social-media-in-politics-or-business#i.5ksjgh16tid1hz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8__64mFVes
French journalists were in near-unanimous opposition to Sarkozy over the sale of Le Monde. Instead, the winning bid went to a team including a telecom tycoon and soft-porn peddler who was associated with Dominique Strauss-Kahn, according to Christian Science Monitor. You can’t make this stuff up.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/0628/Le-Monde-rejects-Sarkozy-intervention-in-media-sale
And more:
“Sarkozy calls his “best friend” Martin Bouygues, owner of France’s No. 1 TV network TF1 along with mega-construction and mobile phone firms. Another close friend, Arnaud Lagardère, owns a military rocket firm, is a large shareholder in EADS, just purchased Time Warner books, and owns the Hachette Book Group as well the No. 2 media conglomerate in France, including 37 percent interest in Le Monde. Two years ago Le Monde beat back an effort by Mr. Lagardère to gain majority control.”
Sylvio Berlusconi is the frequent comparison in articles from that time.
Government is the only legitimate voice of the people, and should supercede the voices of actual people, Sarkozy advocated in 2011:
“The universe you represent is not a parallel universe. Nobody should forget that governments are the only legitimate representatives of the will of the people in our democracies. To forget this is to risk democratic chaos and anarchy.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/don-tapscott/we-need-more-internet-not_b_868162.html
Claudie is a big wig in the local cycle scene, her hubby The Mayor of Doussard, President of Faverges, senior majistrate of the area, falls of a cliff, yet he is an intelligent, fit, local, unfortunate.
Their two sons marry the two daughters of Mr.Communal Tournier,
Mr.Communal Tournier is related to Sylvain Mollier.
The e-fit is released, armed raiders storm the home of the Communal Tournier Family and shoot Nicole dead, they bash up Mr.C.T., then flee.
What a coincident Mr. C.T. being related to S.M. and one week after the E-Fit, this other murder happens.
Mr. Twig hurtles down a cliff, whilst sitting alone in the back seat of his car, how very careless, this just after The Slaughter of the Hoses incident.
A mountain man, ex-paratrooper, parachutist tops himself, he is known to the Family Mollier, yet 1/4 of a year later, his name is still not known, strange.
Claire Schutz uncle is a big wig in Paris politics, his best mate a police chief is stabbed 18 times, in his own gaff, yet seven years later the police have no clues?
Following that incident Pierre Morrange packs a piece.
Our man Sylvain is local and works for Cezus, is a cycle nut and knows everyone and all the back lanes, yet he gets lost on the day of his murder.
Sylvain was shot first and last and many more times.
My money is on Sylvain, the local guy being the main hit target.
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Michael Norton
17 Sep, 2014 – 5:14 pm well summarised. Have you thought by the same token SM may well have been considered by British Intelligence as an important way in to a French network or that alternatively he already was a source for British Intelligence that could not be tolerated by the network that involves the French establishment with a direct or indirect route to the very top? Do you remember from the very beginning that SM was pending a British passport? I can’t remember now where that story was sourced though we discussed it at the time. We do know that BOTH Saad and Mollier felt threatened but we don’t know on what that was based. Nor has it ever been explained what that two year “paternity leave”? was all about. It certainly wasn’t typical or Cezus wouldn’t have any workers. Why was he laid off but not apparently sacked? That’s like EITHER he was soooo good they wanted him to come back or they had to get rid of him but wanted a cover story. Either way the fact that it has never been convincingly explained is suspicious.
Michael Norton….
You are “spot on the money”. Mollier was the target.
The second volley of shots were to kill him. And to make sure.
The events are sure now….. and they contradict the French police version.
I think you are looking at some “high level” French police action (or not) to a murder that went “very wrong” and by doing so a UK family was caught up in (and killed).
The French media (with all the leaks from the police) will never ask these questions.
Did the “someone” get to hire (due to their contacts) someone that could organise such a killing…..and did they get “preferred treatment” as they allowed this killer to escape ?
In September 2012, it was announced that FX had acquired the rights to The Strain trilogy of novels by Guillermo del Toro and Chuck Hogan, and ordered a pilot episode to be directed and executive produced by del Toro and co-written by del Toro and Hogan. Carlton Cuse would help develop the project and serve as executive producer and showrunner on the series, which was envisioned as having a limited run of three to five seasons.[1]
Hollywood responds to the call with certain stereotype heros and villains.
Channel 5 THE BODY OF PROOF MOVIE: GOING VIRAL
Just two examples of the conditioning of the American population for a reason?
Ebola is being projected as a threat to national security (same script as ISIS/Jihahists/A Qaeda you notice) On the basis of biggest threat to UK national security why arn’t we bombing Glasgow and Edinburgh?