The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Apparently Pierre Morange ( the uncle of Claire Schutz)was born in Clement-Ferrand, this is adjacent to Creuse, where many of the abducted children from Reunion were taken.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creuse
It is hard to find much out about the history of Pierre Morange, which is baffling as he is or was a G.P. and so high up in the Sarkozy party.
Phew! James, for a minute there on tck I thought you and Patrick were bessie again.
GDP …..
I reckon it is “he” or “one of his bunch”.
It takes a week for them to “come out” when people start asking questions of the French Authorities. But they do come. Patrick. Vince…. Pepe next ????
A drunk at the barrier ! For God sake !
It’s all kicking off.
France Iraq
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29255711
Pathetic Hollande is so very unpopular and now only has a one person majority that he is going to bomb Iraq, that should take The French Eyes off massive unemplyement
and failing everything.
Mr Norton….
You just have to love his “Wiki” page though. “Nothing” !
Born….. then figures….then “he’s still alive”.
And I thought “Al Capo” was good at hiding stuff.
“At his twice-yearly news conference in Paris on Thursday, Mr Hollande said that he had told the authorities in Baghdad that France was now ready to carry out air strikes”
Belly laugh.
Twice Yearly ! Nothing like “open Government” is there.
Mind you, he’s too busy shagging.
Yes James,
Pierre Morange, the uncle of Claire Schutz seems only partially visible.
He was born in Clement-Ferrand —-
but id he is or was a General Practictioner he must have gone to Medical School,
so which one and who were his chums?
This geezer deserves some looking into.
Did he own a property nearby to Pharmacie Schutz-Morange, did he practise in Grignon,
which hunting/shooting clubs has he been in.
Has he yet visited Reunion.
Does he still partially own the pharmaice business in Grignon.
I think it was said he has five children by his ex-wife.
Well I know he was the one that advised Claire et al to “say nothing”.
Black Out is the best policy I guess.
Islamic State for France?
http://rt.com/news/188660-isis-islamic-global-crackdown/
Six potential recruits have been arrested in France, a judicial source said on Wednesday, with the number of French nationals traveling to sections of Syria and Iraq partly-controlled by the IS (formerly ISIS or ISIL) continuing to rise.
Two of the detained on Tuesday are minors, while another pair is a brother and sister; one other suspect is believed to be linked to Forsane Alizza (Knight of Pride), an organization calling for France to become an Islamic caliphate. It was banned in 2012.
James, you say Pierre Morange has been advising Claire & family to say nothing.
Do you think he has also been advising Eric Maillaud?
MN
forget the french media releases. The french have a sort of D notice, too.
Do you really believe that no french journalist had been able to trace down friends of SM and his history by now?
Do you really believe that no neighbour and no friend had told them interesting things when being paid for?
Do you really believe that all neighbours and friends of the so called french “legionnaire” kept quiet for nothing? of course that guy must have had friends and neighbours who knew about his life and particularly his name.
These arent special people in ugine. they talk when you ask them. It’s just the media who received an order not to write what they know, simply because they are threatened by law and by national security.
hence we dont even know whether or not they are writing the truth. perhaps this was no legionnaire and this history was just given to him as a character for psyop reasons. Perhaps he was just a welder. Who knows?
I have stopped giving only one pence for the info of french and british media. they are ordeted to lie and prohibited telling the truth although they have to know the truth by now, at least the name of the “legionnaire” and the truth about SM’s life and background.
the french feed us with false names and false characters to dissolve the truth.
Normally… the police “rely” on local information.
Do they have it here ?
Will they release it ?
Are they bothered ?
Or are they “not allowed” to touch ?
Mollier was the target.
And maybe some “high powered” person helped providing the service.
Keep “banging on” about it…..and now there are “two”….and out of nowhere !
Patrick came “the same way”.
It looks like they have another mystery a good possible answer in the comments, Ice ice baby.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2761125/Mystery-bullet-killed-British-expat-France-French-forensic-officers-baffled-no-trace-projectile-passed-victim-s-neck.html
Pink…
Another “unsolved” coming up !
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I hope the woodsman who lost his arm in a saw accident not far from Annecy was unconnected with all this stuff. Accidents do happen. And how does a man who drowns get up a tree? Then another break-in and murder not unlike the Tourniers a bit to the south. And a lone Israeli camper with satellite phone sets off emergency from Tel Aviv. All unrelated of course. And whilst we’re at it Stan Maillaud still hasn’t surfaced as far as I am aware. Britain has its own “Stan” in the form of Robert Green, who’s involvement in the Hollie Greig case has resulted in gaol and house arrest with arduous conditions for months without any charges being proved. The political elite of Scotland being implicated in Dunblane and widespread sexual activity of a highly dubious nature. The issue cuts across national boundaries and is used by criminals and secret services alike to keep people in line.
http://holliegreig.info/peter-eyre-archive/part-8/
From the above 2010 article:
“Speaking from London, freelance journalist Bob Kearley said “Whether or not a D-Notice has been issued is not clear. But based on some of the feedback I’ve been getting it’s apparent that editors and media owners have voluntarily agreed not to cover the story at this time. Operation Ore is still being reported, but not in regard to government ministers and it’s taking up very few column inches on the third or fourth page. Don’t forget that the intelligence services are involved here, and Blair is anxious to ensure that the scandal does not rock the boat at a time when the country is about to go to war.”
“You can imagine the effect this would have on the morale of troops who are about to commit in Iraq. In fact morale is reportedly quite low anyway, with service personnel throwing their vaccines into the sea en route to the battlefront and knowing how unpopular the war is with the British people. And a lot of squaddies I’ve met think there’s something weird going on between Bush and Blair. If you’re then told that the executive responsible for the conduct of the war is staffed by child-molesters … well, then Saddam suddenly looks like the sort of bloke with whom you can share a few tins [beer].”
There is little doubt British circumstances and measures are mirrored in France. Notice for example how the ISIS statements and actions are almost identically replicated in Britain France and Australia but not amazingly elsewhere. Then throw your minds back to Zygier, Libya, Syria,mh379/17 and the same countries, same script appears. They appear to be joined at the hip for some reason and the link is their respective intelligence services. Then throw Israel in the mix and you have the recipe for chevaline and subsequent cover-up, just as happened in the cases mentioned above.
Hollande was meeting Cameron on the day. He was fresh in and fresh out of the country. I don’t think that was accidental. This Chevaline has its roots in Sarcozy’s time and before. The new leader is hog-tied and despite promises, as with Obama, everything carries on the same. The bigger the crime the more likely it is that no one will be prosecuted or found guilty. This is a given akin to the aphorism “to big to fail”. Its why Obama has tacitly in his 9/11 eve speech linked ISIS and 9/11 although he must know both are CIA frauds. Survival of government/stability is placed above everything else. Its why trillions of fraudulent debt was transferred to the taxpayer with virtually no consequences for the perpatrators of the fraud, it is why Saville was left unmolested unlike his victims, it is why Chevaline has “not one lead”.
From the very first minute I always had the suspicion that SM was working for the French military secret service DRM (who is also responsible for satellites intelligence).
Cezus was a cover for SM. Being a welder there was his cover job. His Algerian connections and his father’s military career and the total emptyness of his personal history and the blank infos regarding his previous life suggest that he was working for intelligence.
Therefore the stories regarding SM’s life in the media are setup and fake.
Yes, he was divorced. Yes, he had a baby with Claire. But Claire’s parents didnt like him. Why? Because he had no money?
No! Because they knew that he worked for french military intelligence and that his job could put their daughter into dangerous and life threatening situations.
Iqbal worked for the CIA (see her American history with her killed CIA godfather).
Saad worked for Mossad (his fastdata neighbour in Surrey was his godfather, too).
WBM worked for a Five Eyes secret service.
There was some kind of meeting. Either one or more of them were double agents who should be tricked for a setup meeting for getting proof that they were working for the other side, and then being eliminated there (Saad, SM), or else this was a meeting of several Five Eyes secret service agents with a fourth (criminal) party but something went wrong in terms of payment for the criminals.
Whatever this was, it was intelligence.
And whenever intelligence is involved, all you will hear from media is lies and BS that was setup from intelligence for the media. You wont hear the truth since they arent going to uncover their work nor would they risk to uncover any of their own intelligence related people.
Thanks Bluebird.
Can I ask a simple question.
Let’s say this is all about an intelligence sting and related cover ups / murders.
If “they” don’t want The French People to small two many rats,
surely after two years has passed and bearing in mind three children of Sylvain Mollier
have to be supported, how can there be no publicly available probate.
Sylvain obviously had assets, not least would be a whopping pay-out from Cezus /his union,
because he died whilst still being on the books of Cezus.
Presumably he has a firms pension, will this be split between wives and children.
We are led to think he owns a substantial property in Ugine.
His father passed away just before Sylvain, so it is quite likely he gained some inheritance there, maybe enough to allow him his three year leave of absence.
We have been told that Sylvain was on that awful day, more than two years ago riding a five thousand Euro bicycle.
Sylvain’s Executors should have demanded
( it would be their legal duty to demand its return)
so that his estate can be completely accounted for.
In England only funery expenses can be taken out of an estate until probate is granted.
A granting of probate is a legal matter and as such is a publicly available document.
the return of that five thousand Euro bicycle
If these normalities are patently not observed
it will be obvious to The French People
that this was an intelligence massacre on French Soil, government should be held to account,
The French are Citizens not slaves.
The French are now bombing in Iraq
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29277630
That should take the Eyes of the electortae away from the uselessness of Hollande and his sleezy mates.
The hanging corpse was found in Chavanod
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gorges+du+Fier/@45.895605,6.038574,2a,90y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s39436352!2e1!3e10!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xb6103421c350bc32!6m1!1e1
Chavanod is the The Gorge du Fier
I suppose we might have been letting our imaginations get the better of us.
Possibly this body is a suicide, hurled himself down into the Gorge du Fier, crashing into the water, , later the water level drops and he fetches up in low lying branches?
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James, might be an idea to cut Policeman Pat some slack. By that I mean give him enough rope. After all, last time he did reveal a few tings . . .
Apart from details, I couldn’t agree more BB. Bluebird
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