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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • Peter

    By the way, there is a pig farm practically next door to his house. Places like that usually have a captive bolt pistol lying around, in case it becomes necessary to euthanize an animal.

    As no bullet was found at the scene of the crime, and as nobody heard a shot, it might be a good idea for the gendarmes to take a closer look at all the captive bolt pistols in the neighbourhood. By the same token, rather than an international hitman working for a three-letter-agency, the killer probably was a local.

  • Q

    Not that I think this is in any way related to the al-Hillis, but sooner or later you’ll find out about the pig farm an hour away from Chilliwack. You’re not going to like it. Search “Ernie Crey”.

  • Q

    As we know, the French Foreign Legion has a reputation for giving its new members false identities and Canadian passports (real and stolen, or completely fictional forgeries, we do not know). We also know that legionnnaires who serve their time can take French citizenship under a new name entirely.

  • Q

    “The Farm” for the French Foreign Legion.

    “The pig farm” for the one in Port Coquitlam, about an hour from Chilliwack.

    No one needs to explain any further in that context. Everyone in the area knows what those things mean.

  • Q

    Did they find .22-calibre casings, .22-calibre bullets that had not been fired, .22 calibre blanks, or blanks from a nail gun in the Glenn Miller story?

  • Q

    Nothing can match the horror of “the pig farm”. Speculation is still rampant about what really went on there. PC had a mental hospital. The article below mentions a general hospital in Chilliwack. Warning: everything about this is very disturbing.

    You can find one bit of speculation at http://can.politics.narkive.com/ relating to a cult. Search “gornk” posts and look for the word “cult”.

  • Tim Veater

    From Q 21 Sep, 2014 – 8:40 pm
    “Such would be the case of this glorious order until that fateful day in 1314, when Jacques de Molay, the order’s last Grand Master was burned at the stake as a heretic. 680 years later another group of Templars called The Order of the Solar Temple would meet a fiery death, albeit with an entirely different set of circumstances. On October 5th, 1994 the bodies of 53 members of this apocalyptic cult were found in Chiery and Granges-sur-Salvan, Switzerland as well as in the Province of Quebec, Canada, thus ending a decade long rein of this tragic neo-Templar order.”
    http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/the-tragedy-of-the-solar-temple-cult/

    I hate to pint out but we appear to be approaching the 700th anniversary of one of the most significant in masonic history. (1314/2014) Should we run for the hills? (Fortunately we’ve passed March at least!) As everybody probably knows, the Knights of the Order were all slaughtered in a treacherous move by the King of France, who considered they were getting too powerful. It happened in France.

    ” King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Templars, had De Molay and many other French Templars arrested in 1307 and tortured into making false confessions. When De Molay later retracted his confession, Philip had him slowly burned upon a scaffold on an island in the River Seine in Paris, in March 1314.[4] The sudden end of both the centuries-old order of Templars and the dramatic execution of its last leader turned De Molay into a legendary figure.Another prominent Templar in attendance was Amaury de la Roche, Templar Master of the province of France.”

    Does this tie in with Chevaline? Somehow I doubt it but it does share certain features. Geography. Forest death site. Elements of ritual. Link with three religious sites Jerusalem. Victims fearing death threats/premonition. Children not off bounds. Extreme nationalism. Masonic members. So who knows?

    Incidentally 1314 is the lodge number for West Kent http://www.freemasons-westkent.org.uk/meetings_detail.php?l=145&m=3&y=5

  • Q

    It is interesting, Tim, that the prominent French family who died in the Solar Temple event were from the Haute Savoie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morzine

    Are members of the Solar Temple still around in the Haute Savoie? Surely surviving family members must be.

    Note the collecting of guns by the Solar Temple.

    And what about X? X as in the insurance company that handled the claims from the Solar Temple case? X as in national and international intrigue? X for unknown.

    What about paratroopers and the secret service, which were said to be involved in the story of the Solar Temple?

    http://tueriesdubrabant.winnerbb.com/t1770-ordre-du-temple-solaire

    What about the allegations of AXA being used to launder money and fund state-sponsored terrorist operations? What about AXA’s connection to a late billionaire abroad, with whom Sarkozy stayed?
    There are so many things to wonder about.

    Why would no government be willing to touch the Chevaline murders?

    A local story involving a collector of guns? Tentacles that reach far and wide? Chevaliers, Chevaline.

  • Tim Veater

    From above: “Another prominent Templar in attendance was Amaury de la Roche, Templar Master of the province of France.” la Roche is still a name to be conjured with in banking, chemicals and the funding of American presidents from abroad. Both the Clintons and Bushes we are told are masons. What a quagmire we are dealing with.

    http://www.abps.ch/en/members/bank-la-roche-co-ltd
    “As Basel’s oldest private bank (founded 1787), the Bank La Roche & Co Ltd. Can look back on many generations of successful activity in the fields of portfolio management and investment counselling. The bank is a subsidiary of La Roche & Co KAG (partnership limited by shares under Swiss law), which is managed by 6 unlimited liable partners, who assure the independence and the continuity of the bank.”
    “UNLIMITED PARTNERS OF LA ROCHE & CO KAG
    Johann Jakob La Roche – François M. Labhardt – Dr. Philip R. Baumann – Christoph B. Gloor – Dr. Urs D. Gloor – Mathis Büttiker
    BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF LA ROCHE & CO LTD.
    Johann Jakob La Roche (Chairman) – François M. Labhardt (Vice-Chairman) – Prof. Dr. Edgar Fluri (Chairman Risk- and Auditcommittee)
    BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF LA ROCHE & CO LTD.
    Christoph B. Gloor – Dr. Philipp R. Baumann – Dr. Urs D. Gloor – Mathis Büttiker – Walter Mahrer – Urs Johner – Rémy Gröflin”

    http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/michel-laroche/22/613/a79
    “Michel Laroche’s Overview

    Current
    Chief Anti-Money Laundering Office and Privacy Officer at MCAN Mortgage Corporation
    Past
    Chief-Anti-Money Laundering Officer (CAMLO) at ResMor Trust Company
    Vice President of Operational Risk and Director of Financial Crime at NEOVIA Financial PLC
    Fraud/Anti-Money Laundering Senior Manager at ING Direct Amsterdam
    Fraud/Anti-Money Laundering Manager at ING DIRECT Canada”

    “William J. Clinton Presidential Library, War … bank of the Arkansas River called la Petite Roche (French: “the little rock”).”

    The chemical giant La Roche

    “The groundbreaking new study, authored by the Government Accountability Institute (GAI), highlights the “curious case” of Obama.com, a website previously, and possibly still, owned by Obama campaign bundler and frequent White House visitor Robert W. Roche.

    The website—which is not one of the hundreds of different domain names owned by the Obama campaign—is examined at length in the report as a major potential gateway for illegal foreign donations to the campaign.

    Visitors to the site, more than two-thirds of which are located outside the United States, are redirected to the Obama campaign’s main donation page at barackobama.com.Roche, who has raised nearly $850,000 for Obama since 2007, registered the domain in September 2008. It is unclear if Roche still owns the site, however, as it switched to an anonymous registration in October 2010. ” http://freebeacon.com/politics/china-based-fundraiser-linked-to-illegal-foreign-donations/

    “In this report, Schweizer reveals that the main Obama website BarackObama.com receives 43% of its traffic from foreign sources. About 20% of visitors to another Obama website, my.barackobama.com originated from foreign locations, the report found. Since 2008, Obama.com has been run by Robert Roche, a Chicago native one year younger than Obama (no evidence of further early collusion than that, yet), and now living in Shanghai. Since 1998, Roche has built a small Chinese empire under the name of Acorn International, which made its fortune with “infomercials” for everything from breast implants to cell phones and built strong connections to Chinese state leadership in the process. In 2009, Roche actually met with Obama in the White House, and visited it a significant 19 times since then. Roche and Obama are so close, that Obama actually seated him at the head table at the Chinese state dinner in 2011, along with former President Carter, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and John and Theresa Heinz Kerry. Roche is currently a co-chair of the Obama campaign Technology Initiative (for campaign fundraising) and has committed to bundling $500,000 for Obama2012, also having given $100,000 to Super PAC Priorities USA.” http://larouchepac.com/node/24140

    Of course this gentleman has been previously mentioned in these columns by certain contributors who thought him significant. For those connected to Clinton who have died under suspicious circumstances see http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/billclintonscriminalbackground.htm.

  • michael norton

    Ian Miller , 57, the father of David Miller, ( killed in Thailand)
    lives in Jersey, not too far from Glenn Miller

  • bluebird

    MN

    Miller is probably one of the most common names in the UK. You’ll find 10 Millers in almost every street.

    There are even 25 Glenn Millers in the UK.
    Forget about their number in the USA ….

    However, ot is uncommon that two different people who have got a different surname would deliberately adopt the name Glenn Miller. Why? Because the real Glenn Miller was a spy during WW2? Is that name a cover name for a spy?

    The real Glenn Miller didnt die in an airplane crash as history would like to tell us. He worked as a double agent for the USA (his family was German) and German documents having been made public reveal that he was arrested in Paris by the Germans and tortured in a Paris whorehouse that was used as a torture departement by the NAZI Gestapo.
    He was tortured because he was spying on the german nuclear activities and ready to persuade an important german nuclear scientist to go with him into the USA. Finally he was killed by German Gestapo in that whorehouse.

    Is that the reason why elderly covered spies like to use the name Glenn Miller?

  • Tim Veater

    CONGRATULATIONS Bluebird
    22 Sep, 2014 – 11:49 am for the honour of starting a new page in this “widows cruse of oil”. (1 Kings 17;16) It couldn’t happen to a more esteemed contributor. (LOL)

  • Tim Veater

    and France is committed to sorting out the problems of the Middle East (more bombing of course) when it can’t even sort out a little local crime at Chevaline. Quite amazing! It is now determined to prove its macho status apparent since the Libya intervention and that it is really a better mate of America than perfidious Albion who can’t now be relied on to deliver in any quarter. My how times have changed since De Gaulle withdrew from NATO because it didn’t trust the Americans and went its own independent nuclear deterrent way. It proves at least its relationship with Washington and Tel Aviv that underpins the Chevaline business I’m quite sure. Meanwhile is Britain being quietly eased out? Britain’s little operation was torpedoed by its (ostensibly) three best friends. There’s a touch of the playground gang member being ostracised, I have a feeling. Not quite out but not quite in either. At the weekend I watched “The Most Wanted Man” based on a 2008 le Carre tale but made in the past year. (Of course Philip Hoffman who starred, at age 46 was found in his bathroom with a needle still in his arm shortly after but that’s another story) The plot related to a Muslim (of course) trying to get into Germany, and manipulated by the BND to effectively set-up and uncover a front organisation for Muslim terrorists or freedom fighters, which ever you prefer. It was to uncover money laundering/streaming. Perhaps I shouldn’t tell you how it ends but it could easily have parallels (whether intentional or not) with what was witnessed (by whom???) at Chevaline. I always wondered why the BND got involved in such an obvious way at the beginning re the Swiss Bank Account and tying the thing to Saddam. Why? It didn’t need to. That information could have been conveyed covertly and no one needed to know. My feeling was it was a public statement to all the other parties that it was fully aware about what was going on and had been independently monitoring the situation using its own resources and assets, though not directly involved. It was one of those in-house gentle threats later backed up by the theatrical displeasure shown by Merkel by NSA earwigging. A sort of “dont think you can get one over on us” and “dont try this sort of thing on our territory”. Meanwhile the Franco/German relationship is strained in other directions ““We gave France two extensions on meeting its deficit target and each time France promised to take care of the needed structural reforms,” Norbert Barthle, the senior budget lawmaker in Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, said in an interview on ZDF television today. “But nothing happened.”

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