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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • JorgenNielsen

    You know yourself how boring and stupefying ordinary televison can be, so if your TV set are able to show YouTube videos, I wholeheartedly recommend everyone to watch these videos, coming from some of the most sensible and alert individuals that the American culture has fostered in our generation.

    It’s really very encouraging to see how far the opposition to the special relationship with Israel has gone in The United States – proving yet again, that when the Americans finally awakens and moves, they do so in overwhelming and decisive fashion. For example, several of the speakers mentions that the Israeli claim that the Egypteans were about to attack in June 1967 was a deception employed in order for Israel to attack “pre-emptively”.
    Although I had suspected as much, this is the first time I’ve heard people say so so unequivocally.

    NATIONAL SUMMIT TO REASSESS THE U.S. – ISRAEL “SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP”

    Washington, DC – March 7, 2014 8AM-5PM at the National Press Club

    TRANSCRIPTS VIDEO AUDIO

    MP3
    1. How does the Israel lobby influence Congress?
    C-SPAN

    Paul Findley – Should the executive outmaneuver Congress to save Palestine and Israel?
    YouTube

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    Janet McMahon – The Israel lobby network and coordinated PACs that finance U.S. elections.
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    Cynthia McKinney – In the Israel lobby’s cross-hairs.
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    Delinda Hanley – U.S. aid to Israel in numbers.
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    Questions and Answers
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    2. Does Israel and its lobby exercise too much influence on U.S. decisions to wage war in the Middle East? C-SPAN

    Stephen Sniegoski – Neoconservatives and the Iraq War. YouTube
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    Karen Kwiatkowski – Inside the Pentagon’s “Office of Special Plans.” YouTube
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    Gareth Porter – The “manufactured crisis” and drive for U.S. / Israel military actions against Iran. YouTube
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    Brigadier General (ret) James J. David – How does U.S. military aid to Israel impact relations with other U.S. allies? YouTube
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    3. Does the “special relationship” transcend rule of law? C-SPAN

    Grant F. Smith – A brief history of unprosecuted Israeli foreign agent, smuggling and espionage cases. YouTube
    MP3

    Ernie Gallo – The U.S.S Liberty: what really happened? What did not? YouTube
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    Mark Perry – Mossad poses as CIA? No-holds-barred national security reporting in the current environment. YouTube
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    M.E. “Spike” Bowman – The Jonathan Pollard Affair: what does it mean and what does it not mean? YouTube
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    Questions and Answers YouTube MP3

    4. History: How did the “special relationship” come to be? C-SPAN

    Stephen Walt – The “special relationship” and what has changed since publication of “The Israel Lobby” book YouTube MP3
    Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book “Quicksand” and what happens to historians who revise history. YouTube
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    John Quigley – 1967, international law and cost of U.S. support for the occupation. YouTube
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    Alison Weir – Findings from the new book “Against Our Better Judgment” YouTube
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    Questions and Answers YouTube MP3

    5. Has the lobby captured political parties and news media? C-SPAN

    Jeff Blankfort – Are there Israel lobby gatekeepers and damage control squads on the Left? YouTube
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    Allan Brownfeld – The ACJ and battles over Zionism inside Jewish social welfare organizations. YouTube
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    Justin Raimondo – Has the Israel lobby captured the Right? YouTube
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    Scott McConnell – Did Neoconservatives take over GOP foreign policy? YouTube
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    Philip Weiss – What is changing in “permissible” mainstream public debate—and what is not? YouTube
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    6. Is Israel really a U.S. ally? C-SPAN

    Paul Pillar – Are threats to Israel’s security inflated to justify occupation and U.S. support? YouTube
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    Ray McGovern – Does Israel act like a U.S. ally? YouTube
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    Philip Giraldi – Is Israel a U.S. ally? YouTube
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    Closing statements and where to go for more information YouTube MP3

  • JorgenNielsen

    Apropos, the excellent nad very sensible Philip Giraldi [You’ll have noticed his name at the bottom above], here is a fellow CIA man, opinionating about NATO’s expansion:

    Letter: Don’t return to Cold War relations with Russia

    GRE 12:11 a.m. EDT September 21, 2014

    In a recent article in The American Conservative titled “Does the CIA believe Obama?” former CIA officer Philip Giraldi stated: “I know of no former or current intelligence official who believes that the expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe is a good idea, that toppling Bashar al-Assad would bring anything but chaos, or that bombing ISIS will actually accomplish anything.” Intelligence pros are far more skeptical of government claims than their bosses let on.

    As a fellow CIA retiree, I have to agree that Giraldi’s observations are absolutely correct. Having been invaded at least seven times in its history, a Russia with few natural barriers needs a protective collar of friendly or neutral states as a buffer, and an aggressive NATO pushing ever-closer to its border constitutes a threat Russia cannot afford to tolerate.

    For the moment, she has the economic clout to enforce her objections: Europe as a whole is dependent upon Russia for 25 percent of its oil and natural gas, and Eastern Europe for more than 70 percent of such fuel. The new sanctions the EU implemented Sept. 11 will be sidestepped or emasculated in practice, as they have been before. They will simply be irritants to the Russians.

    But that economic clout will weaken over time as the U.S. ramps up its shale gas production, converts it to Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) and ships it to European ports already constructing LNG terminals. Then, with only political subversion or military options available to halt the encroachment on its turf, East/West relations will be driven back toward the Cold War days.

    All of this is so unnecessary. We need to partner with Russia to face mutual challenges from radical Islam in the short run, and from India and China in the future. Laying off the rhetoric and reining in NATO would be a good first step.

    Carlos D. Luria

    Salem

  • Pink

    This has got very confusing so have I got this right there is a pig farm next door to Glenn Miller who died in France who’s real name is not known and no evidence of the pig farm being involved other than some speculation by Peter ?

    There is a pig farm in Canada where some gruesome murders occurred but are also unrelated ?

    The Glenn Miller who died 3 years ago in Canada and played bass guitar with the band Chilliwack was born in the uk and his real name was George ?

    The Miller who died in Thailand has a father called Ian Miller who lives in Jersey I follow that but which Glenn Miller lived in Jersey ?

  • Pink

    This has got very confusing so have I got this right there is a pig farm next door to Glenn Miller who died in France who’s real name is not known and no evidence of the pig farm being involved other than some speculation by Peter ?

    There is a pig farm in Canada where some gruesome murders occurred but are also unrelated ?

    The Glenn Miller who died 3 years ago in Canada and played bass guitar with the band Chilliwack was born in the uk and his real name was George ?

  • michael norton

    What a Communist nest

    I surprized the Yanks want anything to do with the Frogs.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20140922-air-france-strike-enters-second-week-aviation-snpl/

    Air France enters second week of damaging stike.
    This airline is wholly supported by the Failed French State,
    there is no money,
    this is The Emporer’s New Clothes, again.
    Same as their Nuclear Industry is entirely supported by the Failed French State,
    wake up you Frogs and smell the cafe.

  • michael norton

    Do The Frogs understand that France is on the skids?
    Massive unemployment
    even their government claim approaching 11%,
    of course the real level of unemployment and underemployment is far higher.
    They are incredibly inefficient, their working week is ridicously short.
    Their legal system is utterly baffling.
    Far too much reliance on the state.
    FAR too much tax.

    So why dance with the Yanks into another war Mr.Idiot Hollande,
    you halfwit, there is more than enough for you to sort out at home.

  • Q

    Yes, I do believe we’ve sidetracked the issue at hand. Who is X? Who is the ex-Legionnaire involved in the shootings at Chevaline on September 5, 2012? He obviously had enough of a connection that he was taken in for questioning, and was bothered enough by that to do himself in.

    But then we start looking further afield, and make note that a bizarre letter which remains secret was supposedly left at the scene of an earlier murder of an authority in another part of France. The victim of that murder was a friend of a politician with connections to one of the victims at Chevaline. Then we learn that the ex-Legionnaire had been the romantic interest of SM’s sister. Then we look back at the politician friend of the previous murder victime and see that he is a friend of NS. We wonder: how far up the ladder does this thing go? Then we see that NS headed to visit a $$$ friend with influence in Canada, when his home was being searched in the summer of 2012. Then, by some strange coincidence we learn that the late $$$ friend in Canada has ties to the insurance company AXA, which settled the Order of the Solar Temple claims in France. Then we see that the Order of the Solar Temple had some Haute Savoie victims. Then we learn that the NS $$$ friend in Canada has considerable influence in France, too. Then we learn that the Solar Temple had members in Canada, and apparently infiltrated a large Hydro-electric company. Then we learn of shale gas connections to France by the $$$ Canadian friend. Then we learn of a marriage that connects the $$$ family to scandal in France. Then we learn of corpses climbing into trees in the Haute Savoie. Not necessarily in that order.

    The Glenn Miller Story is another sidebar to the bizarre happenings in France. We know that Legionnaires are often given new false identities, and that Canadian passports have been used for this purpose.

    We know that whatever went on at Chevaline was important enough to involve Sir Peter Ricketts. Not your ordinary tourists by a long shot. Not your ordinary roadside mugging, which is common enough in France. Since when has Sir Peter Ricketts rushed to a camper van parked at a roadside pullout to check on victims? Ask any of the summer of 2014 Brits who were gassed with carbon monoxide. Was Sir Peter holding their hands through this ordeal?

    Another reference or three:

    https://sites.google.com/site/leparrainduquebecpauldesmarais/power-corp-hors-canada
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07/04/nicolas-sarkozy-paul-desmarais_n_1649162.html
    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_de_S%C3%A9rigny

    Chevaline has shone the light on a whole lot of things. How far does this not-so-simple crime reach?

  • bluebird

    Michael Norton

    22 Sep, 2014 – 6:52 pm

    The official story with the airplane crash has been debunked. German documents made public later reveal that he arrived in Paris savely but he was killed in the paris whorehouse after having been tortured there by Gestapo.

  • michael norton

    The Antonov UR-DWF airplane departed Glasgow-Prestwick Airport (PIK),
    United Kingdom on August 29 as
    flight UKL4012,
    carrying oil equipment to Malabo (SSG), Equatorial Guinea.
    http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20140830-0

    This has never been reported by the BBC.
    I have written to The Daily Mail, The Scotsman and the Mirror.
    None have responded,
    could this be because this flight started from Prestwick
    and all is not as it seems?

  • michael norton

    This Antonov, Flight UKL4012
    has a home base in Kiev, Ukraine.

    You would have thought that as Ukraine and Scotland are in the news every single day,
    that a plane crash linking both countries would make the BBC.
    Who has the Black Boxes?
    Who has the corpses?

  • Tim Veater

    Good questions that are never answered Michael Norton
    23 Sep, 2014 – 1:51 pm. Strange isn’t it?

  • michael norton

    Another good question.

    Is it public knowledge that the two al Hilli girls are both alive and living with relatives in England?

  • michael norton

    Another good question.
    Has the probate yet been done for the estate 9joint or separately)
    of Mr.& Mrs. al Hilli?

  • michael norton

    Another good question has the girls uncle, Zaid al Hilli seen them,
    since The Slaughter of the Horses Incident?

    If the English authorites know zaid is not guilty of having his family killed, and as he used to live with the girls, it would seem, very cruel to keep them permanently separated.

  • Q

    Control of the media seems to be a recurring theme in the NS circle of friends:

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/power–denies-meddling-on-energy-121825609.html?device=mobile

    Total comes up again.

    Other family connections to Desmarais:

    http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.1710209
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/paul-demarais-dead-at-86/article14763873/
    http://www.vigile.net/Mariage-princier-chez-les

    Never underestimate the long reach of that empire, which has a considerable amount of influence over Nicolas Sarkozy, France and beyond. One name in particular in the last article is well-known to those who follow alternative news.

  • Q

    Why on earth would anyone trying to live beneath the radar choose such a prominent fake name?

    http://www.militarycorruption.com/glenmiller.htm

    I’m not sure if the story from northern France has anything to do with anything, but it does show that there is much going on behind the scenes, about which we know nothing. Lucky for him he didn’t come across anyone familiar with “Chilliwack”, the band.

  • Q

    Okay. If the man from Operation Mincemeat can show up in Chevaline, it makes sense that “Glenn Miller” can show up in a different location. “William Martin”, “Glenn Miller” — the joke’s on us! Anyone care to speculate on who will be the next Mr. X in this widespread deception of WWII vintage?

  • michael norton

    Paris appeals court suspends corruption probe into Sarkozy – report

    A French court has suspended an investigation launched in July against former French President Nicolas Sarkozy for corruption and influence-peddling, AFP reported on Wednesday. The Paris appeals court decided the previous day to drop the probe and does not have to give a reason, a source close to the inquiry said. The decision came days after he announced his political comeback. Sarkozy still remains mired in several other judicial matters, including for alleged corruption.

  • michael norton

    Mr. Sarkozy ceased to be The President of France
    fifteen weeks before The Slaughter of the Horses incident.

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