The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
I found a forum from 2003 regarding iraq and a possible US mininuke or microwave/or power laser attack on Iraq’s airport. I was thinking of Saad having been the expert to collect evidence there when he was in Iraq in 2003 ?? Did he hide that evidence in Surrey and that’s why the officers in nuclear protection gear searched his house? Or else did he meet SM to arrange protection material (e.g. a zirconium box) in order to transport that material safely? Or was nuclear protection expert SM just the recipient of Saad’s radio active sample?
Just another theory. Nothing that we hadnt discussed before, just some new evidence we hadnt seen before.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=116×3002
quotes:
There is mounting evidence a small nuclear device was used during the battle for the airport. There have been reports of a mass grave at the airport (both US and Iraqi, meaning the US bombed their own soldiers) and for weeks after the invasion, the airport was entirely closed and there were trucks removing topsoil. The place where they dumped the topsoil (near the main prison in the country that is now
being used to house ‘suspected terrorists’ is still heavily guarded (why would they guard a landfill?) and Iraqis who worked at the airport are reporting illnesses, and soldiers there were told not to have physical contact with them and not to share things like water. Hmmm. Someone should check on those soldiers when they come home, I think they call it ‘Gulf War syndrome’ or ‘my own country told me it
would be safe to be around lots of radioactive material and I believe them and now I have a rare form of cancer syndrome.’ They’re having trouble finding Iraqis, no matter how poor, to work at the airport.
I also heard rumours about some kind of directed energy weapon being used. A caller to the Mike Malloy show said that there were legitimate reports of energy rays being used that literally melted tanks.
Although I admit my first instinct is to immediately assume that whatever the administration says, assume the opposite, but neither of these stories makes any sense.
Even mininukes would light up radar screens for hundreds of miles around, not to mention commercial satellites. As far as energy weapons go, even if they were developed, they would be horribly inefficient and would require a mininuke to power them!
However, mininukes and secret mass graves do make for an effective story to instill terror in your enemy.
Friday, August 16, 2002 issue.
Directed-Energy Weapons: Possible U.S. Use Against Iraq Could Threaten International Regimes
By David Ruppe
Global Security Newswire
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Defense Department might use high-power microwave (HPM) technology, now under development, in an attack on Iraq, bypassing the traditional Pentagon approval process for using new technologies, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said earlier this month.
“You never know,” he said at a press briefing Aug. 9, adding that there is already precedent for deploying weapons still under development.
Some human rights and international legal experts have expressed concern that the weapons might cause unnecessary human suffering or destroy civilian infrastructure, which is prohibited by an international arms control agreement. The United States has faced international criticism in recent months for what some critics perceive as a U.S. pullback from multilateral arms control agreements.
A 1977 protocol to the Geneva Conventions on the laws of war prohibits weapons that cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering and that are indiscriminate in their effects. It requires countries to assess the legality of a new weapon in light of the protocol and other international conventions. While the United States has not signed the protocol, it has indicated that it recognizes those principles as customary law and legally binding.
always i used to read smaller posts that also cloear their motive, and that is also happening with this paeagraph which
I am reading here.
Bluebird
29 Sep, 2014 – 1:28 pm this quote in your post
“I also heard rumours about some kind of directed energy weapon being used. A caller to the Mike Malloy show said that there were legitimate reports of energy rays being used that literally melted tanks.”
and this one
“WASHINGTON — The U.S. Defense Department might use high-power microwave (HPM) technology, now under development, in an attack on Iraq, bypassing the traditional Pentagon approval process for using new technologies, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said earlier this month.
“You never know,” he said at a press briefing Aug. 9, adding that there is already precedent for deploying weapons still under development.”
of course ties in with Dr Judy Wood’s well-publicised theories of “dustification” of the WTC towers. I keep an open mind on the subject although with the passage of 70 odd years of secret defence spending running into trillions (much as I noted above quite unaccounted for) since Los Alamos and the atom bomb, I find no difficulty in believing they must have pushed the physical boundaries by now.
Might the technology have been tried out at 9/11 and 2003? It’s perfectly feasible given the same players and interconnections. Would the US be prepared to do it? Well once you concede 9/11 was an inside job, which I believe any reasonably balanced person has to on the objective evidence, then it is capable of virtually ANYTHING and particularly where war is concerned.
America is the only super power to have used nuclear weapons to date, and as I have suggested previously this was as much for test purposes as strategic ones. It wanted to use them in Korea, Vietnam and Cuba. It got very close in the early 80’s. It warned it would use them in both Gulf Wars if Saddam employed chemical or biological weapons against its troops, so intent/preparedness to use does not have to be proved. It was merciless against fleeing troops/civilians with conventional weapons which of course included depleted uranium which has had its own somatic, genetic and environmental consequences to this day and into the future.
Now as to Judy Wood there have been serious efforts to “debunk” her theory and rubbish her quite possibly from the same sources that have poured scorn on the whole “truth” movement. However her observations of structure literally turning to dust before our eyes, and buildings untouched by planes either collapsing completely (as with 7) or “hollowed out (as with 5 I believe) cannot be easily brushed aside.
The visual and analytical evidence for nano thermite is overwhelming, as is the physics of falling objects for demolition, but this of course does not wholly rule out the possibility of some other device or method being employed, though it is hard to see what and how. Put it altogether though and it would be a brave man to bet his savings (assuming he has some) on top secret technology not being employed in either 9/11 or Baghdad.
Oh and as to preparedness of the US to employ WMD in the case of USS Liberty false flag event in 1967, aeroplanes carrying nuclear bombs were actually dispatched for Cairo (the innocent party) before being recalled by the personal intervention of McNamara – so THAT close!
As to my post here Tim Veater
29 Sep, 2014 – 2:13 am it was of course a comment on the f**k*d up-ness of the world and a parody on current international political situation and particularly the part Holden has played in “American justice”, replicated as we have seen elsewhere. Indeed in many instances the “psychopathic” nature of its leaders. The Paul Craig Roberts piece is well worth a cursory read if you have time.
Black Beach Prison and rendition
London Evening Standard. 2 June 2007.
“Equatorial Guinea offered to drop extradition proceedings against Mann immediately after his defence, in return for evidence of who financed his operations, but no deal was struck.
In a confession that Mann later claimed was obtained under duress, he named Lebanese oil tycoon Ely Calil, a British resident and friend of Peter Mandelson”
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/29/neoliberalism-economic-system-ethics-personality-psychopathicsthic?CMP=fb_gu
FWIW, over in the Disappearing Aircraft thread, there was discussion of DU, used as ballast in airplanes and oil-drilling equipment. When the load of “oil-drilling equipment” on a Ukrainian Anotonov crashed on the edge of the Sahara Desert recently, there was a delay in sending a search team from Tamanrasset Airport. This airport is where Algeria keeps its night-flying military helicopters and fighter jets. It would have been possible to find a big old “smoker” only three minutes away from the airport with the latest in military technology, but no one tried until some time elapsed.
DU was said to be the cause of Gulf War syndrome. Where better to find it than at an airport, Tim? If you want to spread DU, just crash an older plane that uses it for ballast. Or a plane that is carrying “oil-drilling equipment”, or both.
Also on the Disappearing Aircraft thread, was Saad’s work really in Airbus galleys, or did he work for a different division of Airbus, one that might tie into an ex-Legionnaire being questioned in his murder? Think of French Guiana, and the French Foreign Legion’s job there. Think of SSTL satellite launches from French Guiana. Think of SSTL’s head honcho visiting the launch site with his team. If Saad was working on more sensitive projects than kitchens, would SSTL and Airbus want anyone to know, after the events at Chevaline?
Every kind of radiation has its own signature, and yes, Tim, military spy satellites are quite capable of picking that up.
Historical background from the 1960s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerboise_Bleue
Perhaps as (has been suspected) Sylvain Mollier’s main job at Cezus
was as super-high-level-security,
perhaps as his bird became pregnant and the family of Claire became alarmed, her mother had a word in the shell like of brother Pierre Morange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Morange
who had a word in the shell like of Nicholas Sarkozy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy
and it was arranged that Sylvain could take off three years for family duties.
That sets the scene for Sylvain spending lots of time in Grignon at her pharmacie with their newborn.
But what if this was a ruse to assuage the parents of Claire and Claire herself and Sylvain was not completely let go by the shadowy French organization.
Maybe they insisted on him doing a bit more for them up at Le Martinet.
Maybe he told Claire that this was the last time and she was right to be nervous.
Maybe the shadowy organization doesn’t let operatives retire.
Germs and War. Anthrax as part of 9/11. Death of David Kelly. Development of “Black Bomb” in SA specifically focused on ethnicity from which a small step to AIDS/Ebola etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M33bl-OZs8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7v1dpLYHI
http://www.france24.com/en/20140929-hamas-islamic-state-iran-poisonous-tree-netanyahu/
Hamas and IS branches of same “poisonous tree” Netanyahu tells
United Nations
Q 15th Sept. 3.52
“Another close friend of Sarkozy:”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Devedjian (French Armenian)
Yes and a close friend in common
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89douard_Balladur (French Armenian)
with links to The Karachi Affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_affair
tim and MN
there are hidden signs and the knowing ones everywhere. i am having no doubts about that there is an elite the rules the world throughout. We are just their sheep. We dont have any arguments between e.g. the ruling russia and usa or between israel and iran or else between france and mali.
as a matter of fact we have scripted arguments. arguments scripted by the elites in order to control their sheep and to enslave them. There are more ideology arguments within one state than between states. there are more ideology friends between different states than there are ideology friends within the same state. it’s all about control and supression. elites dont know any borders. they are cooperating world wide at plans. (e.g. bilderwerg conferences, IWF). we won’t solve crises and we won’t prevent wars if we still see the world as they want to see us the world: with different religions, different races and borders. Thats how they want us to see the world in order to control us and to produce “enemies” where necessary. In reality that world is 1% elites versus 99% sheep and slaves. However, their propaganda is good enough to hide the reality from most of us.
Some examples of their hidden jokes?
Mad Max 2015:
Release date 5/15/15.
And watch the font used for the red “2015” on their poster:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/Mad_Max_Fury_Road_poster.jpg
They are doing jokes with the people. Also the Bibi joke with the poisoned tree comparing Adam and Eve and the paradise with ISIS and Hamas. They are ridiculous but sheep wont understand anyway. and they know!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_affair
below is the last entry on this Wiki page.
“Nicolas Sarkozy, then budget minister and was also Edouard Balladur’s spokesman.[18] Both have denied any involvement in Karachi Affair. On 3 July 2012, French police raided former French President Nicolas Sarkozy residence and office as part of their probe into claims that he was involved in illegal political campaign financing.[19][20] The allegations are related to the Pakistan Agosta submarine commissions used in political campaigns.[21]”
So eight weeks before The Slaughter of the Horses Incident
Nicholas Sarkozy was raided by the cops!
LoL
http://rt.com/news/191712-mossad-recruitment-website-online/
quote:
“Mossad is not an assassination squad, Mossad is a secret intelligence service of the state of Israel, just as the SVR (Russia’s Exterior Intelligence Service) is the secret intelligence service of the Russian Federation, like all other intelligence services in the world, with the same functions,”
Justice seems quite slow in France.
A man is currently in court after having murdered a 17 year old girl in The Ardeche
THREE YEARS AGO.
http://www.ledauphine.com/ardeche/2014/09/30/meurtre-de-marie-jeanne-meyer-le-proces-d-anthony-draoui
And guess where NS was while that raid was going on, Michael Norton: in Canada, on the estate of his friend the $33-billion man, the late Paul Desmarais. The Desmarais clan has many ties to France, shale-gas, royalty and the Bettencourt affair. But it doesn’t stop there. No, the Desmarais clan has ties to the Oil-for-Food scandal, via Albert Frere. There’s also a Bilderberg connection for you, Bluebird.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Desmarais
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168702/Nicolas-Sarkozy-Carla-Bruni-fled-hours-raid-Paris-home.html
NS was quite correct in his statement, “I know they’ll come looking for me. Nothing will come of it all.” With so many friends in high places, how could he be wrong? Just wait it out in that little shack in the woods.
The more things change, the more they remain the same. French-built warships ready to help Russia in its fight for the Ukraine. The next one to be shipped is ironically named Sebastopol:
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140930/193459009/Official-Russia-France-May-Sign-Transfer-Act-for-Mistral-Warship.html
http://nypost.com/2014/03/05/russias-new-french-made-warship-sets-sail/
There is no high moral ground here. It’s business. Words are meaningless. It’s actions that count.
Édouard Balladur and the French Foreign Legion have a bit of a history, MN:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/04/rwan-a12.html
Some of those Legionnaires would be in their 50s now.
Balladur is mentioned here, too:
http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanada/archives/2011/11/20111113-052901.html
http://archives.lautjournal.info/autjourarchives.asp?article=3582&noj=284
http://ledernierquebecois.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/sarkozy-paul-desmarais-power-corporation-quebec/
I’ll leave any speculation to the masses.
Did we ever discuss this?
http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=50270
Is that our Jimmy
him that was shot with the ice bullet /dart?
Another U,K, disc jockey going to court for historically touching womens breats or bottoms.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29431833
Why don’t they ever arrest any politicians?
Q I don’t think that’s the same JT do you ?
Good find a photo to compare here .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689398/Was-Alps-massacre-wife-REAL-target-This-week-emerged-secret-husband-died-SAME-DAY-murdered-Now-Mails-uncovered-drastic-new-evidence.html
Have they dug Jimmy up yet?
MN No they have not the family did not want it they are happy with the heart attack verdict ,please be a little kinder on these people
remember it is just a news story to us there are people who have lost their family members who may read here .
@Pink: No, it’s not a real person, it’s probably a Nigerian scammer. Malaysia is apparently full of them. They must pick names from news articles, or something.
Bluebird
30 Sep, 2014 – 11:12 am funny how MI5 ISI IS ISIS are all so similar. There’s even a whole site dedicated to “IS Hoax” on You Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe_M3FbZ0TJplZs1jUF36BqAjOUHSQj31
I get you. “The first film of the franchise in almost 30 years, Fury Road features actor Tom Hardy as Mad Max. The film is scheduled to be released on 15 May 2015. In a post-apocalyptic wasteland, loner Max meets Furiosa, a woman who wishes to cross the desert.” The film is directed by George Miller on a 150 m dollar budget. “In 1971, George attended a Film Workshop at Melbourne University where he met fellow student, Byron Kennedy, with whom he formed a lasting friendship and production partnership, until Kennedy’s death in a helicopter crash in 1983.” Melbourne, helicopters and if he isn’t Jewish Greek he certainly looks it! No adverse inferences should be drawn I hasten to add.
” Miller wrote and directed the Mad Max movies starring Mel Gibson (Mad Max, Mad Max 2 (subtitled in the United States as The Road Warrior), and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome)” Seems to be very close to Operation Warrior an Australian drug bust operation involving the African Gold Coast and Iron Dome (“BARACK OBAMA encountered an unprecedented welcome when he visited Israel in March. He was greeted at the airport not just by the usual dignitaries but also by a hot new weapon—Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system against short-range rockets.”)
Hollywood is used as a tool of CIA and Mossad directly and indirectly. It is controlled almost comprehensively by Jews as is well known that have made sure Israel is always painted in a good light and Arabs in a bad as on Channel 5 at this moment. It is Hollywood techniques that are employed to make ground-shaking events like the recent alleged beheadings. It can be no co-incidence that Hollywood connected individuals all appear to have changed their flight plans on 9/11.
This fits neatly into the Hollywood supporting act job currently being carried out by the Australian Govt, and particularly apparent since the Zygier story broke I would say. The “mirroring” is almost spooky. In fact it’s wholly spooky most recently in the confluence of May and Brandis views. Ref. Zygier next time the journalist gets goaled (or more likely threat should be enough) if he reveals the story.
oh for TEN years – should be enough to keep em quiet. http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/antiterror-laws-rob-australians-of-freedoms-isis-hate-security-expert-says/story-fnjwmwrh-1227073688494
when will the people’s representatives start to represent the people rather than the power elite based on obviously contrived scare stories? Meanwhile real crime goes uninvestigated and unsolved (apparently)
tim
the 4th episode was cancelled and abandoned because it was “politically too sensitive” right after the iraq war to release that plot.
Now the 2015 episode presents more or less ISIS but it isnt too sensitive?
@Q Oh sorry I thought you were thinking it was the same JT I have a vague memory of having seen that before I can’t remember where.