Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • michael norton

    Two new full sized aircraft carriers:
    The £3.5bn Scout armoured vehicle contract:
    Now £3.2bn of contracts to support the management of UK naval bases:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29438640

    Now the U.K.is as broke as France, although we are told our economy is on the up.
    A big ratcheting up on “Defence”
    expect The French to follow suit,
    even though they are without sans le sou.

    But what does it all mean,
    hardly need all this stuff for defeating IS?

  • Jorgen7Nielsen

    Tim Veater
    30 Sep, 2014 – 11:09 pm

    The Australians are extraordinary pious and deferent towards the people ruling them at any one time. I think the attorney general, George Brandis – depicted in the link you provided – very well could be Jewish – and in the primitive culture downunder nobody are questioning that! I can find no reference on the web that he is Jewish, but look at this: Brandeis, Brandenstein, Brandes, Brandon, Brandt, Brandt-Meyer, Brandus, Brandwein, Bransten, Brant As you know Louis Brandeis was an American Jewish high court judge, who secretly supported the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, shortly after Balfour did something similar in Britain.

    This Brandis fellow actually said some pretty disturbing stuff in June about the occupied territories not being “occupied” but “disputed” – which exactly correlates with the Israeli take.

    ————-

    In Denmark we had a guy called Brandes who founded one of the best known newspapers, Politiken in 1884. And as you know there are no vocals in Hebrew, so basically you can just throw in any vocal you like.

    In Denmark we would thus instantly recognise such a fellow, but its typical that they can much easier blend in in immigrant societies like the US and Australia [and anyway Denmark has very little influence and say in the Middle East,- which again is why we are allowed to speak freely, while they concentrate on first and foremost the US], but still one would expect that people at least talked about it, because obviously it is quite a serious matter if the Attorney general is….you know, just like the British attorney Lord Peter Henry Goldsmith – who didn’t consider the attack on the sovereign country of Iraq in March 2003 to be illegal.

  • Jorgen7Nielsen

    So as I said you can just throw in any vowel you like. I have already talked about — or directed you to evidence of — Brandeis, Brandus, Brandes and Brandis. So we are basically just waiting for someone to call himself Brandys. That would be a sobering experience.

  • Jorgen7Nielsen

    With regard to my mentioning Louis Brandeis being Jewish – this was something I didn’t know until I recently heard Alison Weir speak about it. Alison comes across as an ordinary American housewife, who some time ago decided to find out for herself what all this US-Israel special relationsship stuff was all about.

    NATIONAL SUMMIT TO REASSESS THE U.S. – ISRAEL “SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP”

    Washington, DC – March 7, 2014 8AM-5PM at the National Press Club

    ______________________________________________________________

    Alison Weir: Findings from the new book “Against Our Better Judgement”

    Perhaps my most surprising discovery of so many surprising findings involves an extremely well-known and highly regarded Supreme Court Justice – Louis Brandeis.

    According to a 1978 article in the respected scholarly journal American Jewish Historical Quarterly, by Dr. Sarah Schmidt, an Israeli professor of Jewish history at Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a book by Peter Grose, former editor of Foreign Affairs, diplomatic correspondent for the New York Times, and associate at the JFK School of Government Harvard, Louis Brandeis was a leader of “an elitist secret society called the Parushim, the Hebrew word for ‘Pharisees’ and ‘separate.’”

    According to Schmidt and Grose, this society promoted Zionism throughout the U.S. Its initiates underwent a solemn induction ceremony in which the inductee was told:

    “You are about to take a step which will bind you to a single cause for all your life…… until our purpose shall be accomplished, you will be fellow of a brotherhood whose bond you will regard as greater than any other in your life–dearer than that of family, of school, of nation.”

    Grose writes “The members set about meeting people of influence here and there, casually, on a friendly basis. They planted suggestions for action to further the Zionist cause …”
    XE “Grose, Peter”

    “As early as November 1915,” Grose writes, “a leader of the Parushim went around suggesting that the British might gain some benefit from a formal declaration in support of a Jewish national homeland in Palestine.”

    Brandeis directed Zionist activities secretly from his Supreme Court chambers through his loyal lieutenants – one of whom eventually became a Supreme Court Justice himself, another particularly influential one: Felix Frankfurter.

    A number of authors report that Brandeis was a close friend of President Woodrow Wilson and used this access to advocate for the Zionist cause, at times serving as a conduit between British Zionists and the president.

    In fact, some Zionist leaders bragged, and British officials, rightly or wrongly, believed that Zionists had played a significant role in the U.S. decision to enter World War I.

  • Q

    @Pink: I still find it odd that Nigerian scammers in Malaysia would pick that aspect of the Chevaline massacre. Wasn’t it enough to attempt to empty Saad al-Hilli’s bank account? Nigerian scammers really seem to have it in for the al-Hillis.

  • Tim Veater

    interesting date fact. Shipment of weapons from Libya arrived Turkey September 14 2012.

    12 Sep 2012 – The US ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens is among four Americans killed in an attack on the US consulate in Benghazi

    The rebels were backed by the CIA and the incident was used to embarrass Obama and Clinton. They were Jihadists who were specifically imported into Syria to do the same to Assad’s regime as per http://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/the-covert-origins-of-isis

    Are the dates co-incidental or was SAH party to the plans and needed to be removed prior to the operation? Just wondering.

  • Tim Veater

    In November 2011 the The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission (KLWCT), also known as the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, purportedly exercised universal jurisdiction to try in absentia former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, convicting both for crimes against peace because of what the tribunal concluded was the unlawful invasion of Iraq. (WIKI)

    in 2014 TWO Malaysian planes crash. Another small coincidence but a rather useful reminder (along the lines of a horse head in the bed) to others similarly inclined, of how certain consequences flow.

  • Jorgen7Nielsen

    Here is Bollyn speaking last Saturday in Seattle .

    It’s one of the best lectures given by Bollyn so far, with a lot of interesting info about who committed this crime, and who covered it up. Bollyn says when the Zionists could kill 2.000 Palestinians in their ruthless attack on Gaza this summer, is it so farfetched that they could kill 3.000 Americans if it suited them? If they new that Israel would get a new lease of life, and that every security agency in the world would come flocking to Israel in order to get intelligence about Arab militants and that Israeli security-busineess would be spinning money like never before? Bollyn thinks that the Israeli president Shimon Peres is central to the crime, along with Ehud Barak and possible Mr. Olmert. And for the covering up of the crimes, the assistant to the Attorney General, Michael Chertoff, was crucial in the destruction of the [steel] evidence, and for making sure that no investigations and prosecutions were made afterwards. p4

  • Jorgen7Nielsen

    [link fixed]

    Here is Bollyn speaking last Saturday in Seattle .

    It’s one of the best lectures given by Bollyn so far, with a lot of interesting info about who committed this crime, and who covered it up. Bollyn says when the Zionists could kill 2.000 Palestinians in their ruthless attack on Gaza this summer, is it so farfetched that they could kill 3.000 Americans if it suited them? If they new that Israel would get a new lease of life, and that every security agency in the world would come flocking to Israel in order to get intelligence about Arab militants and that Israeli security-busineess would be spinning money like never before? Bollyn thinks that the Israeli president Shimon Peres is central to the crime, along with Ehud Barak and possible Mr. Olmert. And for the covering up of the crimes, the assistant to the Attorney General, Michael Chertoff, was crucial in the destruction of the [steel] evidence, and for making sure that no investigations and prosecutions were made afterwards. p4Here is Bollyn speaking last Saturday in Seattle .

  • michael norton

    In England, if some people were held in prison, indicted for murder
    their names would be known to the public,
    why so reticent in France?

  • Pink

    @Q I confess to not knowing anything about Nigerien scammers and how they pick targets but when I was looking at the company he said he worked for which is in Vietnam as far as I can tell, it seemed to glean email address and show it in a garbled form at the bottom of the page which I thought was odd I hope they are not going to be scamming with my email now.

  • michael norton

    CMA CGM Group Chairman Jacques R.SAADE (now based in Marseille)

    Jacques R. Saadé is committed to building bridges between continents. Since 1986 he has been president of the Franco-Lebanon Chamber of Commerce. Since 2010 he has been President of the France-Jordan Council of Business Leaders, and been president of the France-Ukraine committee from 2006 to 2010. He is also an Officer of Lebanon’s Ordre du Cèdre and an Officer of France’s Légion d’Honneur.

  • Tim Veater

    Michael Norton
    2 Oct, 2014 – 7:02 pm these are questions I raised many moons ago, particularly as Stan Maillaud “disappeared” (actually taken into police custody) only a matter of days/weeks after Chevaline. On his you tube appearance I have posed the question directly if he or the events, to his knowldge, are related. We shall have to see if he responds. In the mean time here are images of the two men and people can judge for themselves whether there is a facial similarity.

    http://www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Eric-Maillaud-French-Prosecteur.jpg

    http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/983/444/47444389:jpeg_preview_large.jpg?20120718204439

  • Q

    About Stan Maillaud: 1st Infantry Regiment Marine paratrooper.

    Did we ever discuss that since the suicide of the eX-Legionnaire and the “Mr. Molliex” newspaper article? The article outlined a number of odd and disturbing crimes and accidents in the Albertville area.

  • michael norton

    Stan & Eric seem like peas in a pod,
    with Stan looking a bit younger, fitter and more bronzed.

    I’d like to take a guess that Stan is the younger brother of Eric.

  • michael norton

    When “Stan” Christian Maillaud “disappeared”
    (days after The Slaughter of the Horses incident)
    he was in Amancey ,
    which is very close to Annecy.

  • michael norton

    Q 1.44am
    quote
    About Stan Maillaud: 1st Infantry Regiment Marine paratrooper.

    “Did we ever discuss that since the suicide of the eX-Legionnaire and the “Mr. Molliex” newspaper article? The article outlined a number of odd and disturbing crimes and accidents in the Albertville area.”

    I do not think that in the light of the suicided
    EX-Legionnaire/Mountainman/paratrooper/sapeur-pompier/ family Mollier associate

    that again discussed Stan.

    But you may have noted that The Pharmacie Schutz-Morange is in GRIGNON
    which is part of ALBERTVILLE

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