The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
NOTE TIMING IN THE BEGG CASE. It strikes me Parliament, in its recent vote, has proved a huge FAIL. What is the point of all the money it costs us (the tax-payers) if either they are so gullible or corrupt? I can think of no other explanation for the way in which within a year, in response to obvious manipulation by American, Israeli and now appears more likely British secret society, to create the necessary barbaric acts to make the difference, enabling them to top-tail so completely. No one apart from a few notables, questioned where and how ISIS had appeared so suddenly, who was actually funding, supplying and commanding it, or whether the murders had happened in the way described, and if so by whom and at the behest of whom. Nor does anyone appear to challenge the assumption that the IS killings are “barbaric” but ours are “civilized”. How can us blowing up women and children be any less a barbaric act than theirs? In reality both appear to be “western” in origin and objective. As previously stated, the extremists were imported with weapons as a CIA operation from Libya and have been subsequently been funded by Gulf States the objective being the break-up of Iraq and removal of Assad plus the chaos in both to remove any threat of Israel. As recently as Friday’s Times, it was reported that the IS is almost wholly controlled by people from outside the area with no historic connection. In other words the whole thing is a huge deception being pushed on the world in general and Britain in particular replicated in the hypocrisy shown to UK nationals such as Begg. It is also obviously relevant to how MI5/6 behave, Chevaline being a related and contemporary operation.
“However, he maintains that during this time he had been in close contact with the intelligence services, keeping them abreast of his plans. The contacts began after he alleged in a blog on Cage’s website that during a trip to Syria in July 2012 he had uncovered MI5’s role in intercepting a phone call by a British Libyan dissident who lived in Syria. British spies were alleged to have then informed Assad’s secret police, which led to the man being rendered to Libya.
In a subsequent blog, Begg said a few months after he had made this allegation, he had been approached by an MI5 officer “who said they wanted to talk to me about my views on the situation in Syria”.
“I told them that they must be aware that I was investigating several leads regarding British and American complicity in rendition and torture in Syria. They called back after consulting with their lawyers and said they understood that and would still like to meet. I agreed to speak to them and meet at a hotel in East London. Both MI5 and me had our lawyers present.”
[In reality, in legal terms this is an admission, that lawyers on all ‘sides’ were in agreement about and actively involved in illegally overthrowing the Syrian government]” http://inquiringminds.cc/the-latest-begg-propaganda-has-nothing-to-do-with-newly-found-documents-and-everything-to-do-with-the-need-to-change-the-propaganda-because-of-the-illegal-us-led-airstrikes-in-syria
I think it is a very significant move that The Family of Sylvain Mollier have taken on this high profile lawyer Caroline Blainvillian
this is not just about getting compensation,
this is about getting to the bottom of this awful pre-planned murderous event.
Michael Norton
5 Oct, 2014 – 11:11 am …. or to cover it up? Who is footing the bill is an important question isn’t it? If we knew it might say quite a bit. Mollier’s family wasn’t wealthy was it, so we may reasonably assume it is someone else’s or even French Government?
Tim, if only there was a way to understand the new French Video?
I cannot think that the French state will pay for it.
I should imaging the Family Schutz is paying for the lawyer.
always i used to readd smaller content that aalso clear their motive, and that is also happening wirh this
article which I am reading at this time.
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/politique/20140909.OBS8587/nicolas-sarkozy-un-petit-tour-dans-les-affaires-et-puis-revient.html
Is this why NS met his $$$ Canadian friend in 2012?
News from today (to be considered and it makes sense in regards to Chevaline):
French intelligence officers who defected and who are working for the other side are “taken out” by a hitman/strike in order to avoid public embarrassement:
A former French intelligence officer who defected to Al Qaeda in Iraq was one of the targets of US air strikes last month, it has been revealed.
The unnamed man, said to be one of the highest ranking Western officials to join the terror group, is believed to have survived the attack, which hit eight different locations occupied by the Nursa Front.
His identity has been kept a secret with some saying his defection was one of the most dangerous developments in the on-going battle with the militant organization.
One European official told the site that they had tried to take the defected official out with a strike rather than capture him because of the desire to keep his existence a secret.
Two intelligence sources told McClatchy that the defected official had either left the French military intelligence or France’s foreign intelligence agency, the General Directorate for External Security, (DGSE). They added that they are unsure whether he was a ‘sleeper’ agent or was radicalized during his time in the service. However they said it was an embarrassing situation for the French.
‘It sounds likely he started as French military and maybe because of an Arabic family background and appearance, language skills and a high degree of competency, he would then be loaned out to different aspects of the French services,’ one European official told the site.
Another said the situation represents an ‘epic nightmare that we have so far been spared’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781803/French-intelligence-officer-defected-Al-Qaeda-target-US-air-strikes-Iraq.html
Robert Maloubier dit “Robert Mollier” was one of the founders of the French DGSE and he was probably one of France’s most famous spies.
http://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Maloubier
Maloubier dit Robert Mollier was also a member of the legion d’honneur and a parachuter. Pf course he’s old today but he got a family of course.
There’s also a mentioning of a seargent Mollier as a member of DGSE in the indochina war.
He’s mentioned in the book:
Aux Services de la République: du BCRA à la DGSE by Claude Faure
you could search google in connection that book title and mollier for reading that page in google books.
All those secrets and the professionally quiet “families” of SM could confirm that he worked in the french secret service. We dont even know whether or not his real surname is “Mollier”.
Perhaps it is a matter of pride that french secret service top agents adopt the name Mollier?
Why should they work in the secret service using their real names? Perhaps his real name was Sylvain Tournier dit Sylvain Mollier? Is that the reason why we won’t find anything about his personal history?
LeParisien:
Robert Mollier – He’s OUR James Bond!
http://m.leparisien.fr/espace-premium/air-du-temps/c-est-notre-james-bond-30-03-2013-2682681.php
Face à nous, Robert Maloubier, Robert Malvalle, Robert Mollier, Maurice Hérault, Raymond Martin. Cinq hommes assis sur la même chaise, cinq noms pour une seule et même personne. Car voilà, Robert Maloubier, dit Bob, 90 ans, chemise de bûcheron et laine polaire, a collectionné les fausses identités autant que les vraies décorations à l’instar de la Légion d’honneur ou la médaille des évadés. Ce vieux briscard était un sacré espion. Durant la Seconde Guerre mondiale, au sein du SOE (Special Operations Executive), les services secrets britanniques.
google translation:
In front of us: Robert Maloubier, Robert Malvalle, Robert Mollier, Maurice Herault, Raymond Martin. Five men sitting in the same chair, five names for one and the same. Because here, Robert Maloubier says Bob, 90, lumberjack shirt and fleece has collected false identities as much as the real decorations like the Legion of Honor medal or escapees. This old veteran was a sacred spy. During the Second World War in the SOE (Special Operations Executive), the British secret services.
Of course, for the British Secret Service he used the name Raymond Martin. The Brits gave him the name “Martin” while for the French he was Robert Mollier.
Of course that’s just coincidence. 🙂
… or couldn’t we rather say …
“What the name MARTIN is meaning for the British MI6, then the name MOLLIER has got the same meaning for the French DGSE.”
I think it is a very significant move that The Family of Sylvain Mollier have taken on this high profile lawyer Caroline Blainvillian
I must confess to having spontaneously fallen in lust with that lawyer 😉 Let me therefore attempt to clarify one or two things:
She is not particularly high-profile, but she is a specialist in corporate malfeasance and she is local, with an office in nearby Chambéry
http://www.barreaulyon.com/fiche-avocat/detail/caroline-blanvillain
On behalf of the Mollier family, she has filed a criminal complaint against person or persons unknown who are involved in the murder investigation for breaching their professional oath of secrecy (violation du secret de l’instruction), as well as against the media organization BMF-TV for receiving, in the form of leaked photographs of the scene of the crime, the fruit of these indiscretions. In effect, the latter is somewhat akin to receiving stolen property (recel de violation du secret de l’instruction).
http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/2014/03/03/tuerie-de-chevaline-plainte-pour-violation-du-secret-de-l-instruction-425933.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2014/03/03/tuerie-de-chevaline-une-plainte-deposee-contre-bfm-tv_4376761_3224.html
What is significant about this is that the Mollier family have not gone down the easier, quicker and more lucrative route of hiring a specialist media lawyer to sue BMF-TV in civil court for breaching the late Sylvain Mollier’s right to privacy. Doing so would have earned them compensation of a few tens of thousands of Euros, plus their own legal expenses. Moreover, the entire procedure would have been a quick open-and-shut case, mere routine, as nobody can deny that BMF-TV did in fact publish the photos in question and as French law is crystal-clear on those matters. To French tabloid media, paying compensation for breaches of the right to privacy is everyday routine, part of the cost of doing business.
Rather, the Mollier family have initiated an attempt to find and plug the leak within the murder investigation using criminal law. If identified, whoever leaked those photos to BMF-TV will face one year in prison plus a € 15.000 fine. (The journalists at BMF-TV are unlikely to be prosecuted.) This move is not going to win them many friends amongst the gendarmes, but it is likely to discourage further leaks from within the investigation – and that appears to be the whole object of the excercise. As I have said, if the Mollier family were after money, they could have gone down the easier and more lucrative civil-law route. They may yet choose to do that in addition to filing a criminal complaint, if only to recoup their legal expenses, but their primary intention appears to be to prevent any further leaks regarding SM.
Bluebird how very, very interesting.
Now as the firm of Joseph AGUERA
has chosen to take on the case for the Family of Sylvain Mollier,
and as Joseph AGUERA & Caroline Blanvillian
both specialize in Criminal labour law
are we to expect that they will be going after the employers of Sylvain Mollier?
Bluebird 8.29 am
Quote from Robert Mollier
“I learn a discrete pharmacy recruiting volunteers to expand an illegal commando”
EBOLA
Quote Russia Today
“Scientists estimate there’s a 75 percent chance the Ebola virus could spread to France
by the end of this month”
Fascinating stuff (as always) BB. Reminder: the story that Mollier was waiting for British citizenship?? No doubt now you are working on any family connection between 90 yr old Mollier/Martin ans Sylvain. As suggested yonks ago the very real possibility exists that Mollier worked for either or both British and French intelligence either co-operatively or covertly – i.e. double agents. This link between British and Molliers may date back to Vichy France when it was difficult to work out who was working for whom. It is easy to see the potential use to the British (ie inside information on a large French nuclear company, metal techniques, secret deals abroad incl. Iran) less easy to see his use to French intelligence unless for the same reason or eyes and ears into threatening politico’s including far right or Tournier/Sarcozy connection. If he was a British agent following British instructions, meeting SAH (who either was working for Brit intell or a threat) we have all sorts of possible permutations on the sting that went disastrously wrong (or right!)
I am beginning to think that
Sylvain Mollier worked for both Cezus (day job)
& DGSE ( night, weekend work & “holiday”)
I think there is truth in the story of him getting a three year leave from Cezus,
for family reasons, him and Claire were starting a new life together with three boys,
she was the owner and manager of the Parmacie Schutz-Morange in Grignon
and would have needed to spend most of her time there.
I suspect that Claire and her family wanted Sylvain to give up his other work, too.
However I imagine that the secret services never let you go completely, always one more job they need doing.
So now we have a possible explanation for “MollieX”. Thank you, local media, for the discrete tip.
MN
the truth about secret service agents is that they all have a covert job but they dont work there. usually they get jobs as “security experts” in huge state owned companies both at home and abroad. the bigger the company, the better, simply it doesnt create that much attention when they arent working. If the agent is somebody who should predominantly work abroad then you’re going to give him a job in a company that has got offices abroad, too. Cezus/Areva is a perfect hidden job for french secret service agents.
3 years parental pause. BS! he probably had job interruptions before. The 3 years is just an excuse to explain why nobody had seen him in the Cezus company lately, just to avoid workers perhaps talking to the media something like “we never saw him there”. “oh. you couldnt. he got free time for his baby”.
Other hidden job places for agents are NGO’s like Heifner, doctors without borders and even Uno and amnesty intl.
He might have been an agent workibg both for france and the uk.
However, that doesnt make him a target as both organisations are befriended. if the french or brits killed him then he defected. perhaps just like Iqbal aka “CIA-Gina” or SAH. That’s one possibility. The other possibility is that they were on duty to secure Iqbal’s PLO?? mother??? but a third organisation killed her plus her security bodyguards.
we dont know who SM was and we dont even know whether or not Mollier was his real name or just his aka name he had used for his jobs. Like we dont know whether or not “Martin” was the real name or just the aka name of that “sudden witness”.
BB
the Joseph AGUERA’s Lawyers firm, Lyon, is a firm that will do a good job,
if Caroline Blainvillian
is to do a good job for the Family of Sylvain Mollier, she will need to see Sylvain’s birth cerificate, marraige certificate, divorce certificate, death certificate and the birth certificates of his three sons.
She will need to hold his will and the deeds of the properties he owns, she will need to know all about his bank accounts, the will & estates of his parents.
She will have to know why he was on three years leave from Cezus, what were his duties there, what he has earned and so forth.
This is a very, very intelligent woman, who also speaks English, it will be difficult to pull the wool over her eyes, certainly not by that person “who has no clues and thinks it will never be solved”.
MN
do you believe that politics, government and secret service wont have their lawyers?
first of all, lawyers are forced by law to keep the data of their clients a secret.
secondly, they are well paid.
thirdly, they dont want to lose their best clients.
fourthly, whistleblowing could be deadly. they are no fools and they know that.
fifthly, the molliers wont pay for them. it’s SM’s boss/organisation who most likely pays in order to keep secrets secrets.
Anyone heard from the “sister” of Glenn Miller lately?
Explanatory concluding remarks
In stark contrast to the misery on the continent, Britain keeps growing and has exceeded GDP levels reached in 2007, and the consumers are feeling confident. This is due to the same mix of loose money and tight budgets that worked so well in 1931 [Britain led the world in quitting the gold standard] and 1992 [Britain quit the European Exchangerate Mechanism (ERM), the predessesor to EMU]
Excuse me if this seems repetetive, but someone out there may not fully have grasped the point, and the issue is so important – the most important issue in our lifetimes, with wideranging implications for the wellbeing of millions of ordinary Europeans:
The point is that France — and any of the other eurozone-members — have voluntarily given up the control of their own monmetary affairs (something that used to define a sovereign nation) so they are unable to let loose money off set austerity, like Britain did after 1931 and 1992 and again after 2008.
..unable to let austerity be offset by loose money
Their hands are tieds behind their backs. They have to break free and let EMU fall.
Sources: U.S. air strikes in Syria targeted French agent who defected to al Qaida
“But a European intelligence official said the decision to try to strike the defector with a missile rather than capture him was in part to keep the French agent’s existence a secret. “Perhaps some problems are best buried forever under a pile of rubble,” he said.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/05/242218_sources-us-air-strikes-in-syria.html?sp=/99/117/&rh=1
Jorgen Nielson,
that is partly why U.K.I.P. and F.N. are both doing so bloody well in the polls
and in elections, people KNOW the failed Socialisim of that Hapless Hollande
is in the basket of the guillotine — IT IS FINISHED — DOOMED
You are absolutely correct, to be successful,
each nation must be in charge of its own money, its own financies and its own destiny.
Why was France the first off the blocks to blindly follow the U.S.A.
into yet another Middle East was in Iraq?
One of the reasons is because the Hapless Hollande is the least popular French President since the Second World War, they have more than 10% of people on the dole,
their country is inefficient and a pallor of hopelessness hangs over it,
another war might take the glazed eyes of the electorate away from the French Ruling Elite for a few months
It has been said by locals in Brittany that the “sister” of Glenn Miller introduced him to the village and that she was the inheritor of their “uncles” ancient farmhouse.
Now Glenn Miller was shot through the throat whilst sitting in the corner of his living room, no casing has been found, no weapon has been found and no projectile impact has been found in the room but their was copious blood found on and around the body.
It cannot have been suicide because there was no casing, no impact hole and no weapon.
So the implication is murder.
The main reason to shoot someone through the neck and remove the casing and not leave an impact hole is to leave a message.
Don’t talk — we have left you a message — take note — or else.
So is this why we have not heard one peep out of the “sister” of Glenn Miller?
“The site of the explosion, Parchin military base, is situated 19 miles southeast of Tehran. The UN’s nuclear watchdog has long suspected that the complex was used in the development of a nuclear weapons capability”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782755/Massive-explosion-rips-site-linked-Iran-s-controversial-nuclear-programme-killing-two-shattering-windows-nine-miles-away.html
I wonder who caused that to happen
( while we are all watching Ukraine, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Turkey)
Macedonia convicts (behind closed doors) seventeen persons for spying,
mainly government employees. Other nations involved have not been mentioned?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29510996