The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
So now we have a possible explanation for “MollieX”.
To French ears, Mollier and Molliex are homophones, both final consonants are mute and merely serve to lengthen the preceding vowel, as in “Molliee”.
Hence, the secret message contained in that article is that there are crap journalists, to whom fact-checking is an alien concept, on the French side of the Channel as well 🙂
Here is where I got the great quote about loose money and tight budgets from
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/10526947/Farewell-QE-you-have-been-a-magnificent-success.html
Molliee is a french acronym of the name “Molly”.
Molliee is rarely used as a girls name today, because in french middle ages that name meant “being a prostitute” or “a gangster’s bride”
When that name is rarely being used as a nickname for a male it means either “gay prostitute” or rather more likely that nickname means “he’s a gangster, a pimp, or he’s the right hand of the mafia boss, the guy for all the dirty jobs”.
However, i dont think that this is the case here, is it?
If (!!) the name Molliex/Mollier was a hidden.message then it could only be that message, and it would actually fit very well (can handle a gun, yiddish, etc)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_moll
A gun moll (aka gangster moll) is the female companion of a male professional criminal. In some contexts, ‘gun moll’ more specifically suggests that the woman handles a firearm.
When the term came into usage in the first decade of the 20th century,[1] “gun” was not derived from the firearm, but from the Yiddishword meaning “thief,” variously transliterated into English as ganefthe, gonif, goniff, or ganof,[2] itself derived from Hebrew “Ganav” (גנב). However, this distinction gradually disappeared, especially when such women became associated with gangsters noted for their frequent use of guns.
“Moll” derives from “Molly”, used as a euphemism for “whore” or “prostitute” and attested at least since 17th century England.
And here we have the New Zealand connection. Secret service OPs are always good in leaving jokes and hidden messages.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moll_(slang)
Moll or Mole /ˈmoʊl/ is Australian and New Zealand slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for a woman of loose sexual morals, a bitch, a slut or a prostitute. The term can also be used for a girlfriend of a thief,gangster, surfie or bikie.
A Molly House (French: Molliee house) was a gay bar in the past centuries.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_house
A molly house in 18th-century England was a tavern or private room where gay and cross-dressing men could meet each other either for socializing or as possible sexual partners. Molly houses were one precursor to some types of gay bars.
@ BlueBird
“Molliee” merely was my own onomatopoetic rendition of the way in which both the names Mollier and Molliex are pronounced, namely, with a long E at the end. I did not mean to insinuate that Mollier was gay, a gangster or both 😉
To change topics: I don’t know whether anybody else noticed, but this documentary
http://www.rts.ch/emissions/zone-ombre/6047414-tuerie-de-chevaline.html
claims that Iqbal was training to become a dentist when Saad met her in Dubai.
Apart from being ludicrous in and of itself – it does take a long time to qualify as a dentist, but not that long – this claim is patently false because Dubai did not have a school of dentistry at the time.
My own searches have come up with zilch. Does anybody have any idea what Iqbal might have been doing in Dubai at the time, where she worked, if she did work, and so forth?
She could be training as a dentist in Sweden, and have been in Dubai on a visit. She is a Shia [That’s also why all the talk about PLO should stop, because the Palestinians are Sunni], because Dubai is not only a hub for trips into Iran, but one of the worlds greatest airtravel-hubs, so she could have been there for all sorts of reasons. It makes sense to take her trining i sweden, because education is free in Sweden.
@ Jorgen7Nielsen
Sure, she could have trained to become a dentist in Sweden. Why not? The trouble is that the Swedes are pretty good about keeping records and putting them online. If she had ever lived in Sweden for an extended period of time, she would have left some sort of digital track there. I don’t speak Swedish, but I cannot find any trace of her in Sweden. Nowt. Can you?
http://www.tandlakarforbundet.se/
http://www.eoseurope.org/useful_links/schools_search_results?country_id=205
http://www.folktandvardenstockholm.se/vara-kliniker/specialisttandvard/
No telephone book entries, no tax records, no mentions on any lists of graduates, no memberships of professional associations, zero.
As far as I know, the only witness we have to confirm that she ever actually studied dentistry anywhere is Dr Zaid Alabdi. Looking at his CV, that can only have been in Bagdad, where he obtained his BDS in 1987. Iqbal could have attended the same course if she had started straight after leaving school.
However, I cannot find any records whatsoever of her qualifying as a dentist or working as one, anywhere. If she did indeed ever qualify as a dentist, that is quite remarkable. Practicing dentists advertise, they want to be found. Conversely, her reaching the ripe old age of 47 whilst training to become a dentist without ever qualifying would be equally remarkable.
peter & al
look at that!!!
A Breakthrough???
This is a directory from 2003:
http://www.moh.gov.bh/pdf/Doctors_Dentists_Eng.pdf
watch!
Bahrain Dental Center
Suhyla Ahmad Al-Safar
Tel: 277121 Fax: 277073
P.O. Box: 33341, Manama, Bahrain
Dentistry, Orthdontics,Surgery (Oral & Maxillofacial), Periodontology
Now I know that she should be Suhyla al Allaf, but what if she used her Swedish passport? Then she would be Suhyla al Allaf.
There we are: Maxillofacial.
You need an education and you need to practice in every country. you need a diploma in the USA even then when you already are an expert. That would fit very well, including the secret service connections both for Iqbal and her mother.
look:
The typical training program for an oral and maxillofacial surgeon is:
2 – 4 years undergraduate study (BS, BA, or equivalent degrees)4 years dental study (DMD, BDent, DDS or BDS3
– 6 years residency training – Some programs integrate an additional degree such as: a masters degree (MS, MDS, MSc, MClinDent, MScDent, MDent), doctoral degree(PhD, DMSc, DClinDent, DSc), or medical degree (MBBS, MD, DO, MBChB, MDCM)
After completion of surgical training most undertake final specialty examinations: (US “Board Certified (ABOMS)”), (Australia/NZ: “FRACDS”), or (Canada: “FRCDC”)
Some Colleges offer Membership or Fellowships in oral/maxillofacial surgery: MOralSurg RCS, M(OMS) RCPS, FFD RCSI, FEBOS, FACOMS, FFD RCS, FAMS, FCDSHK, FCMFOS(SA)
Many dually qualified oral and maxillofacial surgeons are now also obtaining fellowships with the American College of Surgeons (FACS
Average total length after secondary school: 12 – 14 years
In addition, graduates of oral and maxillofacial surgery training programs can pursue fellowships, typically 1 – 2 years in length, in the following areas:
Head and neck cancer – microvascular reconstructionCosmetic facial surgery (facelift, rhinoplasty, etc.)Craniofacial surgery and pediatric maxillofacial surgery (cleft lip and palate repair, surgery for craniosynostosis, etc.)Cranio-maxillofacial trauma (soft tissue and skeletal injuries to the face, head and neck)
She’s by far not the only al Saffar who does that:
see:
http://www.edec-me.com/sarah.html
He’s in Dubai now.
That’s what maxillofacial surgeons do.
http://medcarehospital.com/Department-Oral-Maxillofacial-Surgery
Of course they are working for secret services, too. They give new faces to defected spies or to befriended politicians. They create doubles (how many doubles had Safdam and Gaddafi?).
There are even conspiracy theories that Putin had been replaced by a double.
Of course the surgeon owns photos of the “people with the new faces”, too.
If you need money then you might get an idea to trade such a photo with governments or with other secret services or you might even blackmail these people. Whatever you might do, that could be a dangerous activity ….
alright. that suhyla seems to be still alive. However, all what we know about iqbal today points towards a maxillofacial surgery study and education with all that requested practice abroad.
http://suhylaalsafar.com/about/
http://suhylaalsafar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/GDN-Nov-25-1988-723×1024.jpeg
http://suhylaalsafar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/GDN-Nov-12-1988-1024×434.jpeg
http://suhylaalsafar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/GDN-Nov-6-1993-p3-1024×724.jpeg
https://www.facebook.com/SuhylaSculptures
@ Bluebird
Thanks for trying. She may have intended to “train for” a career in maxillofacial surgery, but she must have been a long way from becoming one when she died. When, if ever, did she qualify as a common-or-garden dentist to begin with, and where did she qualify? If she ever actually qualified as a dentist, it must have been in some godforsaken place without Internet, I think.
Many months ago, I used one of her email addresses (which I have forgotten, honestly) as a search term on Google, and found some questions that she had posted on a BBS for dentistry students shortly before her death. Her questions referred to the correct positioning / spacing of dentures and sounded pretty basic, not the kind of questions that a hotshot maxillofacial surgeon would need to ask. Likewise, she had a dental mannequin in the Claygate garden shed to practice with. That is the kind of device absolute beginners practice with, pre-clininal dentistry students in their first or second year of dental school. More advanced students get to practice on live patients (under supervision, of course).
In short, I remain to be convinced that she ever qualified as a common-or-garden dentist anywhere, the first rung on the ladder towards becoming a clinical specialist. So, what did she really do during all those years?
Carlos to go back to court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29519645
“Carlos the Jackal” Ramirez, 64, had admitted carrying out the 15 September 1974 attack on the Drugstore Saint-Germain in an Algerian newspaper
Why are there so many attacks in September?
Peter and Bluebird: I don’t think the French newspaper’s use of “Molliex” was an accident. X can mean ex-anything, like ex-Legionnaire, or the ex- listed here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/05/242218_sources-us-air-strikes-in-syria.html?sp=/99/117/&rh=1
“One European official directly familiar with the case said the partial confusion over the man’s resume – which has been alternately described as French Special Forces, military intelligence or DGSE – probably stems from the overlapping “seconding” process where specialists move between branches of the government on a fairly regular basis.
““It sounds likely he started as French military and maybe because of an Arabic family background and appearance, language skills and a high degree of competency, he would then be loaned out to different aspects of the French services,” the European official said. “Everyone does that all the time,” he said, citing as an example a member of the U.S. military’s Special Operations Command being assigned to the CIA.”
Of course, the newspaper chose a prominent name in the area, with Molliex.
Peter 8th Oct 9.41am
you are correct Peter Joseph AGUERA & Associés
do have an office in Chambéry, Savoie,
however their main offices are in Lyon.
I imagine that Caroline Blainvillian would be happy to meet a client in Savoie
but her MAIN OFFICE is in Lyon.
You are suggesting that her main interest is finding out who released a picture of the dead Sylvain MOllier,
whilst this may have hurt his relatives, surely their main interests would be in sorting out who set him up to be executed?
@ Q 7 Oct, 2014 – 4:45 pm
You are of course entitled to your own opinion, but, personally, I really do believe that the use of the name Molliex amounts to nothing more than sloppy journalism (and/or sloppy copy-editing). For a start, if used deliberately, the X was used as a suffix, not as a prefix. The French of course have a Monsieur X or Madame X to denote an unknown person, but the the prefix “ex-” does not exist in the French language.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:French_prefixes
Thus, if used deliberately, the meaning would have been something like “Sylvain Mollie-something”.
@ Michael Norton 7 Oct, 2014 – 4:47 pm
You are suggesting that her main interest is finding out who released a picture of the dead Sylvain MOllier,
whilst this may have hurt his relatives, surely their main interests would be in sorting out who set him up to be executed?
That is what the papers are suggesting, and that is what Maître Blanvillain’s latest legal manoeuvres are all about. However, the Mollier family have also been a civil party to the investigation for some time now. I don’t know whether Blanvillain has acted for them in that capacity as well, or whether she has been brought in later specifically to go after that leak within the gendarmerie. I suspect the latter. What the family’s true objectives in all this are is anybody’s guess. According to Maître Blanvillain, they want to put a lid on this case so as not to blight the lives of Mollier’s children. Fair enough. If their main objective were to help find Sylvain Mollier’s killer(s), they have been very poorly advised, to say the least. However, I don’t think that this is the case. In my view, they either have a pretty good idea of who killed Sylvain Mollier and why, but see no realistic prospects of a successful prosecution and thus prefer to let sleeping dogs lie, or they are just as clueless as the rest of us and simply try to protect their children.
Thank you for your blessing, Peter, but as you know, I do not need encouragement to think outside the boX.
Welcome back after your eXtended absence, BTW.
Ebola
even though people are catching Ebola in Spain
and we have been told its spread to France and the U.K. is inevitable,
the U.K. has no plans in place for scanning immigrants for Ebola,
surely it would be better to put suspected Ebola immigrants in isolation
rather than let them spread it into the wider community?
Same goes for all countries, check people coming into your country who come from places where Ebola is rife.
A chap on the radio said this morning that it is now thought there will be more tham a million victims of Ebola, this is a bigger threat than IS
so why not do something in advance to protect your populations?
@Michael Norton: I don’t know if you were reading when we discussed Le Milieu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milieu_(organized_crime_in_France)#.22Traveler.22_Gangs
bluebird
6 Oct, 2014 – 5:31 pm
Yes, who is instructing/paying for the lawyer Maître Caroline Blanvillain.
A rather important point.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Courrier_de_Russie
Is this Caroline Morange in any way connected to the Morange family of Grignon?
Caroline Kim Morange seems to be a twiterer not something I do.
https://twitter.com/caro_kim
I do think we should look more penetrating at Pierre Morange
For some reason I find the alphabet interesting. In France, “the H” means Hornec. In American mafia lingo, “put the X on” means to order a hit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornec_gang
http://www.netplaces.com/mafia/mafia-lingo/
There’s another interesting expression. “Five times thirty-eight”: “To be shot five times with a .38-caliber revolver. Mafia hit men often empty their guns into their target. Better safe than sorry.”
There is another X that’s universal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_rating#France
The five persons being held for the armed house- knapping of the family Communal-Tournier
and murder of Nicole are said to be Gypsies.
We have not been told if they are in a bigger “organization”
Michael Norton
7 Oct, 2014 – 8:16 am you will remember the younger Tsarnev brother had a bullet wound in the throat that apparently occurred AFTER he was arrested just as his brother was killed AFTER he was arrested. Is it perchance a CIA call sign?
Is there any reason to ask Michael Norton
7 Oct, 2014 – 8:45 am. I think Israel’s role in terrorism is an open secret as is their timing either to heighten or lessen its effect. 9/11 and 7/7 are examples of the former and Gaza of the second. All the contrived hassle around a Turkish invasion of Syria/Iraq is good cover for deeds elsewhere.