The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
MN
there’s a better report. Seems that somebody is already in jail for that killing and it was a private affair (jealousy).
The victim was another local carpenter.
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/07/10/jean-luc-thiebaut-a-ete-tue-par-balles
Bluebird,
a carpenter’s lot is not necessarily a happy one in Savoie or Haute-Savoie.
Quote Le Dauphine Libre
“The assumption that the murderer acted with accomplices is preferred.”
Not please correct me if I’m wrong but if it is a crime of passion, you don’t normally take along accomplices?
There is much more “back story” to this mystery and it involves more aldermen /mayors.
Bachschutz…Beschutz…Eibenschutz… Eybeschutz….Liebschutz….Lifschutz….Lipschutz….Oberschutzky….Saleschutz…………Schur, Schurmann, Schuster, Schutster, Schutz, Schutze, Schutzer, Schwab
So both the “killers” of these non-connected with any other business deaths, so very quickly cleared up are currently residing in the lock up at Aiton,
which is apparently in Savoie
but both these deaths occurred in Haute-Savoie?
A search on the name “Schutz” returned the following results:
Guess what the horribly grim Aiton Prison
is less than ten miles down the road from Grignon
http://s-www.ledauphine.com/images/89B7E195-0F9F-48CB-B8B3-7155E984EEF1/LDL_V0_12/vue-de-face-en-2004-photo-sylvain-muscio.jpg
It looks like the sort of place you would keep major terrorists|!!!
MN
so mr hauteville was a carpenter.
his assumed killer Jean-François Cottet-Dumoulin was a carpenter.
The other victim jean luc thiebaut was a carpenter.
The arrested gun collector friend of mr. devousassoux was a carpenter.
And there was a carpenter as a prime witness in the chevaline case.
It looks like if all haute savoie residents are either carpenters, mayors or camping ground owners. of course all of them (hauteville, Jean-François Cottet-Dumoulin, etc.) are having jobs in the government of their local municipalities, too.
It looks like as if there is a high probability that if you meet somebody in haute savoie region that he is a carpenter, a hunter and a cyclist and that he owns guns.
One of the men arrested for the murder of Nicole Communal-Tournier, who resides in Doussard
( when he is not in prison) was also described as a carpenter
I am not sure but the chap who went to prison for beating badly a man and a woman in Faverges,
I think his name was something like Stephen Havactou
wasn’t he described as a carpenter or glazier
or working for a carpenter.
Did we ever find out who the man and woman he put in hospital were,
this is all part of the back story.
EBOLA
Mayor of London Boris Johnson
says EBOLA will come to England
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/12/ebola-boris-johnson-uk-london
EBOLA
“A preliminary test shows a Texas health worker who treated Ebola victim Thomas Duncan
before he died is also infected with the virus, USA officials say.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29587803
The dog of the husband of the Spanish nurse with EBOLA has been shot.
In June 2014
the French Authorities were requesting that the U.S.A. Authorities
eXhumate the body of Jimmy, Mrs. al-Hilli’s other husband who “died” whilst sat in his stationary vehicle without being involved in an accident at the same time as Iqbal
was being shot in a stationary car on a different continent
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10963697
/French-to-request-US-exhumation-in-al-Hilli-murder-case.htmlin Chevaline.
How is that going?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10963697/French-to-request-US-exhumation-in-al-Hilli-murder-case.html
and Jimmy is another of the robot E-Fit helmet suspects
Mr Thompson, whose body was found slumped at the steering wheel of his pickup truck in Natchez, Mississippi, was initially thought to have suffered a fatal heart attack. But prosecutors investigating the murder of the al-Hill family now appear to believe that tests are needed to establish whether Mr Thompson may in fact have been poisoned or killed by other means.
Quote The Telegraph
Their first request to have his body exhumed for further tests, submitted within months of the murder, was refused by the US authorities.
Eric Maillaud, the French prosecutor leading the al-Hilli investigation, told Paris Match: “A request for exhumation and an autopsy was refused because there wasn’t a good enough reason in the eyes of the US authorities.
“Given the facts which are now circulating, investigators are looking to make a new demand to the FBI that will perhaps lead to an exhumation and autopsy; but what we will discover two years after the death we will have to see.”
You may have noticed a week ago the was a huge explosion sw of tehran at the Parchin site. The pictures come c/o ISIS but not THAT ISIS. It’s a Netherlands satellite company start up in 2006 which has quite close links to SSTL as it happens. The launch company goes by the name of ISIL also. Just happens to be providing close up imagery of Iranian sites that the Israel press suggests was bombed by a “foreign country”.
http://www.commercialspace.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CST-SSTL-ISIS-IAC-paper-Final-Master.pdf
Here’s a little related piece from elsewhere with some stuff on radiation problems in Japan and elsewhere. Sorry it’s so long but hope you enjoy dipping into it. Alternatively just skip. Of course there are those that have suggested that the disastrous tsunami that triggered the Fukushima event was caused by a nuclear detonation out to sea, based on the absence of structural damage other than by the wave. These days (following 9/11) noting is quite impossible.
“Malcolm, Living in hope that “Inquiring Minds” will be back on stream soon, you might like to consider this one: http://permaculturenews.org/2014/09/25/tokyo-contaminated-fit-habitation-doctor-says/
Everyone agrees Fukushima and the tsunami that caused it was a national and international disaster of epic proportions. However whereas physical damage can be repaired the dangerous effects of radioactive nucleotides are far more long lasting and labyrinthine. Tokyo miles from the power station, would it seems, be widely contaminated, that has resulted in measurable health consequences in children. This is very serious not only for their immediate health but also future diseases and effects on the unborn.
As usual, government when faced with the ugly truth prefer lies and or cover-up. This may avoid panic and depopulation of the affected areas but it cannot be right, preventing the protective and preventative measures necessary. Dedicated clean-up where ever possible, knowledge and education as to what to do, personal protective equipment, hygienic practices and so on.
We have been here before. The nice Messrs Churchill, Eden and MacMillan supervised the British aerial testing of nuclear weapons leading to global contamination of the atmosphere that undoubtedly led to a spike in childhood leukaemia in the 60’s. It is also likely to have had congenital effects on pregnant women. More recently this has been witnessed in Iraq with the use of depleted uranium. http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/oct/13/world-health-organisation-iraq-war-depleted-uranium ;
All these stories are seldom aired on MSM. Now we have the mysterious and deadly Ebola to think about, even less consideration will be given to the poor Japanese and whoever else is affected by eating contaminated fish, bathing in contaminated sea or breathing contaminated dust or air. Distance and dilution are protectors but not completely given the inordinate half lives of the nucleotides.
In response Japan has done what? Increased the acceptable level by 2000 percent and increased the criminal sanctions on anyone seeking to reveal the truth apropos Cameron at the UN. All western governments appear to be competing with one another at combining high risk behaviour with deceit, quite the opposite of what they want us to believe.
Now we have the huge explosion at Parchin thirty miles s/w of Tehran on 5th October, 2014 that appears to have little attention by western MSM. This follows the Fordow explosion in January 2013. The question is who did and how though Israel or America and either a bombing raid or Pershing missile must be chief suspects, although sabotage of the process itself or just an accident cannot be ruled out. The second question is whether radioactive materials were involved and/or released. If so the people in Iran’s capital would clearly be at risk.
In a final twist you will note the satellite imagery comes via “ISIS”. No not THAT one but “Innovative Solutions in Space” a Netherlands company less than ten years old. Well I never did! Fancy that!”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782755/Massive-explosion-rips-site-linked-Iran-s-controversial-nuclear-programme-killing-two-shattering-windows-nine-miles-away.html
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/25405/Default.aspx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29550156
http://www.isispace.nl/cms/index.php/2011-07-20-09-31-21
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186003#.VDqJevnF_nE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9831282/Mystery-over-explosion-at-Irans-Fordow-nuclear-site.html
http://enenews.com/reactor-designer-it-was-a-nuclear-explosion-at-fukushima-unit-3-plutonium-was-scattered-after-blast-abc-theres-willful-denial-and-lying-going-on-here-even-at-the-highest-levels
I have always wondered what SAH KNEW? He had contacts. He had multiple computers. He had nuclear expertise. He had satellite information. He was meeting up with a rep from leading French company into all these. What did he know about past events. What did he know about events yet to come? Did it present such a risk he had to go?
but of course his only involvement with aeronautics was designing kitchen units for planes or some such. well of course.
Hey, George, you’re welcome. Yes, a development of that nature would involve a substantial investment. Plus, there would be all the approchements to civic planners, development officials, land acquisitions, etc. It would take a good lawyer throughout the process, too. Imagine trying to find a good carpenter in the area, with so many of them routinely murdered. It could get messy.
With all the cancers on the street a block away, it looks like the dioxin affair may indeed have been profitable for some.
FWIW, BB, the old location was still open for business in mid-2013. Best not to lose income and clientele until the new one was fully operational.
@Michael Norton 3:08 pm: Yes, the portrait-robot man had a few wrinkles, and of course “Jimmy” was a motorcyclist of a certain age. That moustache-beard combo is so popular in the Chevaline area, but an informal poll conducted by yours truly concludes that it is called “douchey” in other parts of the world. Urban dictionary defines this term, for those who do not know.
What is it that happens sometimes in assassinations? Oh, yes, the assassin is in turn assassinated.
@Michael Norton: Famous helicopter escape from Aiton prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_helicopter_prison_escapes
The thing is, what they don’t mention in some of the cases is that this was done by members of a famous biker gang with chapters around the world.
@Michael Norton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_Payet
This is not what I’m referring to WRT biker gangs, but this guy seems to have no shortage of accomplices.
http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2007/09/23/22917-la-cavale-ratee-de-pascal-payet.html
He suggested a new lawyer for Patrice Alegre.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Al%C3%A8gre
Note:
“The case Alègre custody of shadows. The murders were reported as suicides by the police to the arrest of Alegre. Several witnesses said the killer has long been protected by the police and by the senior magistrate Pierre Roche. Former Constable Roussel are 191 unsolved murders in the area. The organization Stop oblivion brings together victims’ families, who continue to demand the truth about the case, citing “disappearances, assassinations and suicide disguised as surveys these truncated, distorted, sloppy, etc.”
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/the-lawyers-of-serial-killer-patrice-alegre-in-toulouse-news-photo/124102112?Language=en-GB
http://www.liberation.fr/tribune/2005/02/02/patrice-alegre-triste-alter-ego_508218
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20030626.OBS2851/un-ancien-avocat-d-alegre-dubitatif-sur-sa-nouvelle-strategie.html
It’s always helpful to search news articles for a lawyer’s other clients. Sometimes you need to pick a name you think might be connected and search it in combination with the lawyer’s name.
thanx Q 12 Oct 6.36pm
http://web.archive.org/web/20110604154102/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article757427.ece
Aiton helecopter prison escape
Par example:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/12/05/01016-20121205ARTFIG00427-affaire-merah-mon-client-n-a-pas-le-profil-d-un-terroriste.php
Par example #2:
http://blogazf.ladepeche.com/index.php?2009/06/16/2349-la-plaidoirie-de-me-pierre-alfort
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Jandoubi
Example de plus, a family affair:
http://www.jpost.com/International/Merah-affair-Terrorists-sister-might-have-joined-jihadist-forces-in-Syria-353118
“Two armed men hijacked the helicopter in Albertville
to use in the jail break from Aiton.
Guess what is astonishingly close to The Pharmacie-Schutz-Morrange
both the prison Aiton but the helecopter site is just two miles from the pharmacie, you could even cycle there.
SAF based in Grignon
http://www.saf-helicopters.com/en/groupe_SAF-HELICAP/histoire.php
Used for EMS, I see, Michael Norton.
http://www.saf-helicopters.com/en/groupe_SAF-HELICAP/histoire.php