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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • michael norton

    Quite a few senior police officers and retired police officers seem to get murdered or suicided in France, I wonder if the body thrown down Les Gorges du Fier, three miles from the police Headquarters in Annecy, then drowned, then clibes up the cliffs and hangs himself from a tree,
    was an eX-policeman?

  • michael norton

    I wonder if the eX-Legionnair/eX-paratrooper/mountainman/sapeur-pompier
    was also an eX-policeman,
    have they graced him with a name yet or said what weapons were used in the “suicide”?

  • michael norton

    Right now, the political corruption cases are being honored Pierre Morange, UMP and Mayor of Chambourcy would be on the spot, according to Le Nouvel Observateur.

    Whose fault is it?

    His ex-wife, who accused him of making exercise a fictitious job.
    “I occupied at the same time work as nurses at night. He told me that this was common practice. But he fired me because the election approaching, it must be beyond reproach,” she explains.

    For four years, Veronique Goens-Morange was hired by her husband in parliamentary attaché quality, as indicated Médiapart.
    She admits fraud in a handwritten letter to the prosecutor of Versailles. Then questioned, it justifies its denouncement by certificates work, one signed by Pierre Morange, the other by his real employer, the director of the clinic where she is registered nurse, part-time permanent contract.

    In total, this little sleight of hand would have brought 2,700 euros net per month, and unemployment benefits following his dismissal at the approach of the campaign of 1800 euros per month for this position that she would never occupied .

    While in that time, in England, MPs are pinning for a lesser expense report and resign as soon as possible, if the spouses Morange was treated very discreetly, and even filed away.

    According to Mr. Eric Harm, lawyer Pierre Morange, “The no further dates back about six months. Prosecutors estimated that there was a lack of concrete evidence in this case.”

    Meanwhile, Pierre Morange declined to say more on the subject …

    It’s a little hospital that mocks the charity from the member who, on June 5, complained to the Assembly “fiscal fraud [which] is, in its various forms, a reached intolerable to our social compact. ”

    But how, when is a political, increasingly publicized spied dissected by the media, can you still think above the law, imagine that such small arrangements will never be updated?

    http://archives-lepost.huffingtonpost.fr/article/2009/06/14/1577769_emploi-fictif-l-ex-femme-de-pierre-morange-depute-ump-temoigne-vengeance.html

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  • Tim Veater

    note involvement of Australia again and the way in which lies and false leads are fed to the press who dutifully just replicating them without any effort to test or enquire. Where have we seen this elsewhere? It is standard protocol. As with Chevaline, the answer to the crime itself, however horrific, is overtaken by by the question, what about it demands a sophisticated diversionary and cover-up operation that directly involves the highest levels of government. Only the most sinister and dark explanations akin to the hidden and destructive hyphae of dry rot, infecting all levels of church and state with dividers never far from the action.

  • Tim Veater

    in this case, the question is what was there about the mcCanns that required the immediate intervention of Tony Blair’s top PR man and MI6 officer when literally thousands of children could go missing and/or be abused without even the local police investigating? Similarly what was there about Chevaline that exceptionally required both military and Ambassador on scene? If we could answer that, we would have the answer to both mysteries.

  • michael norton

    Lurin — again

    carpenters — again

    A fire broke out late yesterday afternoon, in the business of carpentry, roofing and sheet metal work Lugrin. 100 m² floor were burning in the fire department, both on the premises that house the refectory of the company and outside of buildings. The production site would, however, not affected. Fifteen firefighters Evian and Thonon were mobilized and quickly confined the fire.

    http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/10/18/incendie-dans-une-societe-de-charpente

  • Q

    Since arson seems to be a factor in Lugrin, what about mystery fires in Ugine/Grignon in 2012? Not forgetting the pompiers.

  • michael norton

    a 32 year old male was referred and indicted for manslaughter in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case.

    Investigation was based specifically on ammunition used,
    unusual, long distance balls.
    http://www.francebleu.fr/infos/infos/haute-savoie-un-meurtre-elucide-plus-de-2-ans-apres-les-faits-1856322

    Matthew Voisin, the shooter lives in Bellevaux, Haute-Savoie

    Now a few questions crop up.
    1) why would someone who is a hunter and lives in an extremely remote area,
    need to practice by firing towards somebodies home/garden?

    2) Why would you need a very long range ball?

    My answer to 1) is that only a madman or somebody intending to kill or terrify another person would do this.

    My answer to 2) is as sniper ammunition, probably home made.

    So my guess this should not be a charge of manslaughter but of culpable homicide.

  • michael norton

    I do not really know what culpable homicide is.
    I should have just said murder.

    The aged citizens of this area have been terrified for years by having pot-shots fires at them from a distance.

  • michael norton

    Yesterday a 32 year old male was referred and indicted for manslaughter in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case.

    Indicted late Wednesday morning after a prolonged detention of 48 hours, the suspect arrested in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case, was put on probation. “He is a man perfectly inserted,” the prosecutor, Eric Maillaud.

    Aged 32, Matthew Voisin remains in Chablais, he is an employee of the company Evian mineral water and practice regular hunting.

    By probation,
    does Eric Maillaud mean that this 32 year old man is released?

  • Q

    The Savoie/Haute-Savoie is plagued with crime of all sorts, fires and bizarre incidents:

    http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1821877.shtml
    http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1810065.shtml
    http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1835068.shtml

    Being a tradesman/carpenter is very dangerous to one’s mental and physical safety in those parts.

    Just a sample from:

    http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Faits_Divers/

  • Tim Veater

    Pink
    19 Oct, 2014 – 1:34 pm – that one:

    “Updated at 12 pm

    This is a man “known to police services” for his involvement in cases of a criminal nature, said the prosecutor Nancy. “All tracks are open” for the time in the investigation of the murder without witnesses, the prosecutor added, saying an autopsy would be held Tuesday to determine how many such bullets had struck the victim. These are drivers who had reported Saturday afternoon the presence of a man lying unconscious next to his vehicle on a county near Laneuveville, southeast of Nancy.

    ————————————————– ————-

    No, ma’am, no password. Turn around. ” The officer on duty in the middle of the road, just outside Laneuveville a peripheral municipality of Nancy. Facing him, yet another motorist asked curiously, “What the hell is going on? “No response. You just turn around.

    The policeman is firm. A little worn. But there is courteous. This makes the hours that pushes cars, bikes and walkers. It is there to prevent access to part of the county along the 126 Meurthe Laneuveville and connects the village of Art-sur-Meurthe. Two or three miles away, one of his colleagues did the same thing in the other direction. The stretch of road was blocked on Saturday at about 15 pm after motorists found a man about forty years lying unconscious beside the road next to his car.

    Alerted, firefighters and medical EMS team went out there and tried to resuscitate the victim. In vain. The forties died. The police then took over relief and invested the crime scene. Since the death of forty is not natural. He succumbed to gunshot wounds. We shot him several times. How much? Nothing certain yet.

    “No leads at this time”
    What is certain, however, is that it took place at the edge of the county 126 In open country. The nearest residence is several hundred meters away on the other side of the Meurthe.

    A forty lives there. She saw nothing. “My children were playing on the console, they heard nothing. I thought I heard like a snap. At first, I did not pay attention. That’s when he saw the police and firefighters that I thought about it, “she says. His father, aged 78, who was doing gardening heard “sounds of firecrackers.” But he saw nothing. The murder had no eyewitness and the investigation will be difficult. She was assigned to SRPJ Nancy. A disturbing element can guide their investigations, the victim who is domiciled in Greater Nancy, was a known offender police. From there to imagine a reckoning, there is only one step it is far too early to pass. “We have no leads at this time,” says Peter Jund, the prosecutor on duty who visited the scene of the murder.

    An autopsy on the body of the deceased will take place early this week. It may provide investigators with valuable clues about the circumstances of the murder.”

  • bluebird

    French TOTAL CEO de Margerie (involved in the Iraqi oil for food scandal – we discussed that here) killed in Moscow plane crash.

    His private jet crashes into a snow vehicle during takeoff. Driver of the snow vehicle was totally drunk. He had no authority driving that vehicle, Ria Novosti says. 3 more airport employees under investigation for wrongdoing.

    De Margerie’s last interview on Bloomberg in July 2014:

    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-05/total-s-de-margerie-sees-no-need-for-dollars-in-oil-purchases.html

    “Nothing prevents anyone from paying for oil in euros,” de Margerie told journalists at the Cercle des Economistes conference in Aix-en-Provence, France. “The price of a barrel of oil is quoted in dollars. A refinery can take that price and using the euro-dollar exchange rate on any given day, agree to make the payment in euros.”

    The remarks from the head of France’s largest oil company are the latest in a debate sparked by an $8.97 billion fine slapped by the U.S. on French bank BNP Paribas SA (BNP) for transactions carried out in dollars in countries facing American sanctions.

    Also read the readers comments in that Bloomberg article written by “Austin Knapp” from back jn July!

  • Pink

    No source found this on pprune

    http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-flying-ga-etc/549711-private-jet-crashed-moscow-airport-vnukovo-4-killed-2.html

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    Russian prosecutors claim the driver of the snowplow which crashed with Total CEO Christophe de Margerie’s jet was drunk. His lawyer, however, says he was completely sober, due to a heart condition preventing him from drinking.
    “My client is suffering from an acute heart condition; he does not drink at all and his relatives and friends can testify to that,” Aleksandr Karabanov, the lawyer, said.
    “He was sober at the time of the crash,” he also said, adding that a number of lawyers will be involved in Martynenkov’s defense. “We don’t want the blame for the accident to fall on an ordinary man,” he added.
    Karabanov also made clear that he will insist on an independent expertise to determine the presence of alcohol in his client’s bloodstream.

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