The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
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@ Bluebird
The car looks knackered enough, but the story of the accident – car coming off the road, getting stuck precariously balanced above a steep precipice, two guys get out, thereby unbalancing the car, the third remaining guy stays inside and goes down the precipice inside the car – *does* lend itself to alternative interpretations, e. g., the two unharmed survivors knocked the third guy out and then pushed the car off the road, down that precipice.
re the Swiss bank account(s)
If the al-Hilli and/or the al-Saffar families were banking in Switzerland then there may have been certain business they could only do in person – new accounts or joint accounts, transfers, probate documents etc – and requiring witnessed signatures. It need not have been lodgments or withdrawals.
It would be interesting to know if SAH had any company/ies registered in Switzerland which might have been invoicing for his contract work.
Its Back!!!
Ive been away doing some research and contacted a well known author and expert in the field of intelligence circles, he suggested a lead which I have been looking into but dont feel comfortable posting until I have his approval!
Watch this space!
Peter
Not even the airbag did his work. I have seen many car accidents in my life. However one conscious guy being dead in that car because of impact must be extremely tragic with a likelyhood of 1:100000000.
If only the airbag would have done its work then i would believe a tough impact. But then, not even the airbag felt sufficient impact.
@Peter
another Pajero photo I hadn’t seen
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2012/10/01/le-4×4-devale-la-foret-sur-trente-metres-un-mort-imgz
Strange damage.
@ Felix
Not so strange if that car tumbled down a steep thirty-metre precipice. Looks like it flipped and landed upon the roof along the way. Anybody sitting in the back, beneath the caved-in section of the roof, would very likely die.
@ CD
It would be interesting to know if SAH had any company/ies registered in Switzerland which might have been invoicing for his contract work.
No, he didn’t (at least not in his name), as you can check here
http://www.moneyhouse.ch/de/p/search.htm
However, he could have had companies all over the place (e. g. in Dubai) that requested payment to his Swiss bank account.
Search google for
frederic brun + areva
My french is not that good but there is quite something to read.
Here is one example:
http://www.sfrp.asso.fr/spip.php?article404
If his fake car accident was just coincidence then i am santa claus.
@Peter – what justification do you have for this interpretation?
@ Felix
What interpretation? You can see from the photo that you posted how steep that precipice is, and you see from the damage to the roof section that, even though the car ended up on its wheels, it must have flipped along the way.
An even better photo, showing that the right-hand rear wheel came off as well
http://www.ledauphine.com/fr/images/17401e60-9642-4e79-886d-b5cc745b8d56/LDL_06/l-accident-s-est-produit-sur-la-route-du-col-de-l-arpettaz-photo-dl-raymond-brassoud.jpg
I would have a few questions regarding frederic brun. Only local journalists can answer those questions:
1. Where has he been in the time between the assassination of the iraqis and his death?
Any witnesses who saw him? Had he been at work for areva/alstom?
2. Who are the two people involved in his car accident? Names?
3. Is there a connection between him and those 2 people? Friends? Relatives?areva employees? Iranians? Israeli? Iraqis? British? French?
4. Who is the owner of the pajero? Brun? Car rental?
5. What did they do there at the site of the car accident?
6. What does CCTV tell us about the recent driving history of that car?
Its interesting the link you posted, Bluebird.
{http://www.sfrp.asso.fr/spip.php?article404}
When one looks at those images — and an image of Fréderic is there too — those Frenchmen don’t look like being entirely in the US/UK/Israeli camp, like they (those of them being old enough) likely wern’t in that camp duriong the cold war. But the cold war has ended, and it is only Israel — that country the size of Delaware and the adjacent Cecil County in Delæaware — who thinks that another one has started.
Very likely these Frenchmen think it is fair to help Iran with its nuclear prog´ramme. and that very well could have got (some of) them into trouble, when they came across Israel black and white view/good-and-evil take of the situation.
@Peter
what precipice? Have you been behind the LD pay wall? If so, perhaps you can paste the relevant passage.
Have you got a link to the source of that version of the photo?
Stéphane Brun — who are just two photos over Frëderic in this link
{http://www.sfrp.asso.fr/spip.php?article404}
-must be his elder brother. they look very alike.
One can’t help thinking that this nuclear industry must have created a whole lot of workplaces in that part of France.
Yes that vehicle has rolled…….or had something very heavy dropped on it !
One would have thought as its in a forest, trees would have stopped it fairly quickly.
One proviso with Brun, didn’t the witness say he was ‘dark’ meaning brown skin ?
Hi. Glad you are back. Of course, I thought wrongly the worst.
Here is a link to a photograph of William Hershkovitz – the esblished American who hoped to be recruited by the Mossad because of his role in France, and ended up dreaming about killing everyone aka nightmares:
http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/10/Screen-shot-2012-10-05-at-8.03.07-PM-635×357.png&imgrefurl=http://www.timesofisrael.com/family-of-eilat-hotel-victim-claim-murder-was-racially-motivated/&h=357&w=635&sz=244&tbnid=hpf8uq6-c_umaM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=140&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dphoto%2Bof%2Bwilliam%2Bhershkovitz%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=photo+of+william+hershkovitz&usg=__kihl7b1QHjcuscmo9bKZ9n-juLI=&docid=Xnr-aCwZTGvBYM&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=_Rd0ULbmJqmn4gS314HwBA&ved=0CCQQ9QEwAA&dur=110
He is an idead choice for a hitman, and would never have been suspected except for the fatal fallout with his boss, Arab-Israeli Armando al-Abed.
Might be easy to trace, given he was probably using his own passport – what made him a perfect recruit for a possible placement in the Mossad.
Police should check everything in his name, and about his photo.
Also the al-Hilli girls should be shown his photo, along with many others, to see if they recognize him.
@Felix
Thanks for the info re Elekta North America
@Bluebird
Bingo indeed
If his fake car accident was just coincidence then i am santa claus.
… and I am the tooth fairy
You can click on me name and read about The Israel lobby in The United States and in Great Britain. It’s obvious these are the two countries with the most clout in the _ME, so it is here that the Lobby concentrate its efforts. France…..uh, difficult terrain I should think…so they just kill anyone they come across, who doesn’t adhere to their view of the world.
The photographer of the Pajero Raymond Brassoud seems more like a local administrator(insurance) in the regional council , rather than a press photographer.
http://www.coral.fr/1_vie_interco/1.2_services/1.2.2_services/pdf/201003_CORAL_organigramme_pole.pdf
Seen here {http://www.coral.fr/1_vie_interco/1.5_officiel/1.5.3_Rapports/pdf/RA-CoRAL_2004.pdf]
Gestion des achats et marchés Raymond BRASSOUD
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Is he on about the fella that shot the chef ????
There’s a funny place in old London town doing chalets and Mi24’s…and a car in France “just like what the police want to find” rolling down a hill with a dead chap in it…
…and this fella’s on about mad Americans flipping out and shooting Arab cooks !
peter,
almost daily we’ve got car accidants where the only car occupant is a dead body on the backseat of that car. Of course, everything is possible. And I tell you what: If that car was a white Mercedes and if the passenger were e.g. Sylvain Gollin from Ugine who is the local teacher, then I would also believe that this was a normal but very unlucky car accident.
However, since that car is a
1. Dark Mitsubishi Pajera 4×4
2. The victim is a Manufacturer Director at Alstom/Areva
3. and the victim is an expert in nuclear metallurgy just like Sylvain Mollier
4. and the victim is a triathlete (that could be coincidence, though)
5. and all that happens only approx. 2 weeks after the original event
6. and nobody mentions the name of the driver
7. and it all happens in the same environment closeby
…. well, peter, then I don’t believe the fairy tale of an accident any longer.
Of course the victim in that car sitting completely alone and helpless on the backseat of that car while racing downhill into the forest could get killed during that event. However, that victim is certainly dead if somebody breaks his neck and put him onto the backsit before moving that car downhill into the forest. Of course then they can be sure that whatever might happen in the forest that their victim will be dead and silent.
Where has that victim been in the time between the Al Hilli assassination and his own assassination? Kidnapped at the first scene and brought into a secret place in order to hear some more names and connections, perhaps by using some more violent and painful support for speaking a little bit louder?
I am 100% sure that this was a fake car accident and that we found that Pajero that was already seen at the first scene by witnesses.
However, where are French journalists? Are they deeply sleeping? Interviews with the driver of that car? Negative? And where is our French police inspector once he is needed?
I am 100% sure that this was a fake car accident and that we found that Pajero that was already seen at the first scene by witnesses.
… and I am 99% sure that the victim was a local gay man from Ugine nicknamed “Brindille”, not a senior manager in a nuclear company ≥ 350 kilometres away.
With Frederic Brun as a new participant in our theories we can eliminate a lot of blind alleys and we can begin to concentrate on the rest.
Blind Alleys:
1. Sylvain Mollier was a victim by accident – DELETE IT
(Sylvain Mollier was no victim by accident as much as Frederic Brun was no victim by accident).
2. Al Hilli’s satellite connections – DELETE IT
Neither Mollier nor Brun are connected with satellite technology. They are both experts of nuclear facilities, nuclear metallurgy, nuclear accellerator technologies and nuclear turbines, zirconium and hafnium.
3. Al Hilli’s areal satellite photography – DELETE IT
(same reason as above)
4. Al Hilli laundering money or smuggling something else alone – DELETE IT
(the other two assassinated French people would not fit into anything what Al Hilli would have done alone).
5. Al Hilli selling leaked documents – DELETE IT
The assassinations of the French would not belong to that theory.
So then, what’s left as the only remaining theories?
Nuclear technology (turbines, tubes and accelerators), Hafnium and Zirconium.
Now we can concentrate our focus on that issue.
Peter,
Distance Ugine-Belfort is 308 km, driving takes approx. 4 hours.
And please tell me why are you so sure about him?
Anybody who knows how one get a picture above one’s name, like –say — Katie and Ferret has? I would like to know because then I would include the photo of Fréderic above my name, so we could all see him.
@bluebird I wouldnt discount the money as yet!
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@ BB I am 100% sure that this was a fake car accident and that we found that Pajero that was already seen at the first scene by witnesses.
This is conjecture. Do not forget you are writing about someone real who died. Not someone known to you. Not someone with a proven connection to the events of Sept 05.