The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
I am going to take a break shortly for some hours… might be (much) later before I can post again. No significance! 🙂
Erm…just give me two secs.
I find away to lead you there as I do not want to say.
The first I take it is “the older” guy ?
Oh…and there is a third.
No idea “what it means”, but it is Arab World. And a bit odd.
As well as taking the photos of Frederic Brun’s accident
Raymond Brassoud’s google image search throws up the Saad family photo of the BMW with the tandem on the roof and Zeena in front of it.
Ferret…
Everyone there is holding hands, so I don’y really want to post it.
But if you are taking due diligence to look at it, you’ll see.
Sometimes, Questions arise that are Unique.
I can answer my own question – the registered office of SHTech was 26 Oaken Lane until end of March 2012
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/841d0647a39b83353fa7509d19a91308/wcprodorder?ft=1
Why though have AMS1087 based in Swindon at an accountants office and have his other company at Stedman? BTW James Barnett now the sole director of AMS1087…
@Bluebird, Ferret et al:
So glad we have established some understanding of beamlines and particle accelerators. It always struck me as an irony that medical research was done at a place like Chalk River, given its links to the Manhattan Project. I guess particle accelerators are either good or bad, depending on how you use them.
Q
I guess that’s the “world” we live in to be fair.
Either it’s good…or bad.
@Dopey.
I know Ferret asked you, but did you get it ?
strawberry,
Raymond Brassoud is the president of all communities of the region d’Albertville, responsible for transport and pickup services when there are cars left after accidents.
Therefore it is quite logic that he is at the scene if something like this might happen in his communities. He is the mayor of the mayors of that region. Perhaps he is making some extra money with his sony pocket camera once he’s at a scene.
http://euroalert.net/en/contracts.aspx?idl=211111
I totally agree with “Q” on his latest two posts.
@ James
No James, I’m still clueless. I’m having to do some work this week so haven’t looked back at Friday’s posts a second time to try and enlighten myself.
Why would SAH leave an illegal Taser stun gun at home?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/08/saad-al-hilli-victim-of-french-alps-attack-had-illegal-taser-stun-gun-in-uk-home_n_1947641.html
@Dopey..
I flew last week, so plenty of time to think…
…and I have my “big computer” back.
I think we have something. You’ll have to read back today.
I’m not posting much now…as I want someone else to take the lead !
This after all is “real world”.
Ferret will be back later..and hopefully he will !
Institute for science and international security.
Latest release on Iran’s nuclear weapon plans dated Oct 8th 2012:
http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-reports/documents/Irans_Evolving_Breakout_Potential.pdf
Just quickly, while I have a chance…
Bluebird, what makes you so sure this is the right Frédéric Brun?
Here’s the same link you posted earlier:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric-brun/11/142/10
“Manufacturing Director – deputy director – in Belfort Factory
500 people – 200M€/year”
Belfort is about 4 hrs by car from Ugine… and only 20 mins or so from Montbéliard, just outside of which is Mandeure, the place for the “other” Sylvain Mollier (you know, the bow-hunting one…)
Can someone point me to the link that identifies Frederic Brun. thanks
Im sparticus!
Well look at that, much more colour, congratulations to those who can now be easily recognised by their avatars . 😉
Q.
It’s a long shot [ sorry ] but could he have been studying the workings of it for any reason?
Katie…
I guess so. He was working out how a taser works…so he could make cheap Chinese copies and sell them on Ebay as “phasers” !
James.
I’m pretty sure he’d know how they work, but there’s nothing like going over an old principle to spark the imagination to find a new one….if you get my drift. 😉
@ferret
I didn’t say that I am 100% sure. What I did was checking the age of the “Frederic Brun” list. I disqualified all “Frederic Le Brun” names and then checked the age of the remaining Frederic Brun names. The closest one coming to “35 ans” was the one working for Alstom. However, I must admit that there is another one coming very close to him whom I only detected during the recent hour, who is the CEO of Arturia Software in Grenoble (I know, that’s geographically closer). They both started studying approx. in the same year, therefore they could be both approx. 35 years old. I was searching twitter and facebook for condolence messages of their known friends, but so far I wasnt successful.
There are a lot of Frederic Bruns in France (Brun means Brown and that is a common name).
There is a professional cyclist who is in his mid twenties and coming from that region. He is definitely too young. Then we have the other one working at Areva who is 37 years old and married. He is also a president of a cycling club and a cyclist. But he is too old. Then we have the guy from Arturia Software from Grenoble and we also got the guy working at Alstom and who is a triathlete, too. This one has a friend called Daniel Lu. (Daniel David Lu??).
Dead in river: http://archive.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/news/cnbc/2010/06/21/nrc-cranswick.html
Dead on lake, a couple of weeks later: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ottawacitizen/obituary.aspx?n=michael-garner-taylor&pid=141268859&fhid=5973
Both stories involving not-so-frozen ice, and no witnesses, or so it goes.
Katie
So…by working how a Taser works, he somehow gets inspired.
Inspired to do what ?
Why would SAH leave a Taser at home? Why would he have needed one at home? And why are we being told this now?
Would he travel to a clandestime meeting without protection, if he was so fearful for his safety that he kept a Taser at home? Makes no sense, but then again, it was just a holiday with his family, so obviously he didn’t need it.
Yes, Katie, it would be interesting to learn about this Taser, or Taser-like weapon, or whatever, if it exists.
James, imagine a stun gun on a grand scale, what a brilliant terrorist tool.
You will have heard of the laser beams which have been used on pilots approaching Heathrow,combine that beam with a stun gun beam & down comes a jumbo with 400 [?] deaths..
Away from your dreamland, but ok.
I’ll play.
So a Dreamliner crashes. And what. A war ?
You just don’t get these things.
What about “sanctions”. They kill how many (as in kill, now) ?
What about an oil blockade. That would kill how many ?
What about a “smarter nuclear smaller super device” ?
You just don’t get it.
There isn’t an”outbreak of war” anymore, announced on the BBC for all to hear.
And it isn’t even “nation against nation”, “good vs bad” or any of that you think or believe….well you might, so I won’t confuse you !
“imagine a stun gun on a grand scale, what a brilliant terrorist tool”
A James Bond style death ray with which to take over the world?
I’ve just discovered that a roofing company in Guildford and a plumber in Sussex have ltd companies registered to the same secret volcano island address as Al-hilli…
Katie.
Do you think that “they” would ever let democracy be trusted to “the people” ?