The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Eg
Matter of fact
‘Katie’ … no it was not a british state killing
‘Phil’ …. o’yes it was
“One of the largest private shareholders in BNP Paribas, the French bank that holds more than $13 billion in Iraqi oil funds administered through the United Nation’s oil-for-food program, is an Iraqi-born businessman who once helped to arm Iraq in the 1980′s and brokered business deals with Saddam Hussein’s government, according to public records and interviews.
The involvement of the businessman, the British billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, raises questions about how carefully the United Nations has vetted the bank in its continuing role as repository of oil-for-food funds. …
A United Nations spokesman said it was now impossible to determine why Iraq insisted on BNP Paribas, other than that the Iraqis had ”confidence and trust” in the bank.”
I recognised a weird thing, perhaps with no signficance.
It looks as if Sylvain Mollier is “officially” not dead.
I checked this website
http://www.avis-de-deces.net/index.php
(you can search by name or by departement and you can reduce the search period by date to reduce the results. Our departement is 73, but I searched dep. 74 as well. Then I searched all departements by name. No success (see below).
In that website there are all deceased French people listed. Usually it takes 3-4 days after they died to get listed. Of course our Frederic Brun is already listed, too. However, there is no mentioning of Sylvain Mollier. On September 22nd there is a registration of the death of a Rolland Mollier-Carroz, but there is no officially dead Sylvain Mollier. Coincidence or did they forget him or was it “just” a false name they gave the press? Or am I unable to read properly? Something stinks fishy at least.
@james
Could you give me a hint about how you would link our “Scots Piper” from Kent with our RAF man? I have no clue? Where’s the link between them?
True/false
matter of fact?!
Katie/phil
Eg
Blue…
I went from Fifty Five.
The Sec Serv side. Just looked for initials. And isn’t everyone a “consultant” now. Tapped that director into LinkmeIn…and that’s were I found drummer boy Scoat andhis Magic drum (plus others).
All the same Co. Drummer boy does the office work.
Now you tell me…you don’t think its odd that alot of chaps their use the same accountants ?
Only time will tell Phil. 😉
Q.
Saddam Hussein began constructing his offshore operation in 1968 in Switzerland, aware that the country’s bank secrecy made it a prime place to organize the movement of illicit funds and the purchase of arms. That year, 11 years before his coup, Saddam sent his half-brother Barzan Ibrahim Hasan Al-Tikriti to Geneva to construct the network to launder secret commissions charged on sales of Iraqi crude oil.
The system would also be used for kickbacks on purchase from Western arms dealers.
Liechtenstein, which Swiss bankers and money-managers often use to handle dubious clients, was used to ensure even more impenetrable secrecy: real names of company and account owners would be hidden from law enforcers.
The key Iraqis in the operation were Said Rahim Hussein Al-Mahdi (shown here) and Nadhmi Auchi.
Al-Mahdi was sent to Lugano because his father-in-law, Talaak El Naboulsi, an Egyptian soldier and member of the Muslim Brotherhood, was then working in Geneva for Barzan. (Barzan is now in U.S. custody.)
Blue…
I see it like this. You are not going to do PAYE “there” (well you might if you’re office based, but if not, go for Corp Tax and Director Divs), so you get put intouch with a firm that can set one up for you.
….and if you have a chalet, you go there to !
Make sense ?
Bluebird
And if he is not dead, who else might not be?
@bluebird
‘Scot’s piper’
Do google on mr martin’s old (nz) (‘muscular christian’) school background – it is all public record stuff
@James: Also OT is this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/sarkozy-holes-up-in-canadian-cottage-country-as-laffaire-bettencourt-rages/article4386007/
Q
Check out Mr Kojo Annan ! You’ll remember his dad. He was famous…for setting up that program !
@eagle
Bluebird
And if he is not dead, who else might not be?
+++++++++++++++++++
Well that would be very weird. And we would all look like idiots. However, I would not say that such an idea were completely unlikely. We haven’t ever seen pictures of any dead bodies and we had never seen any injuries of that child.
@James and Q:
At that time we had Al Allaf (for Jordan) and Al Saffar (for Bahrain) as the representatives in the United Nations in the USA. There might have been some lobbying of course. And we had the “unspeakable” donating cheques to some of the other UNO members who were on the “poor side” of life. Just charity.
Bettencourt. France. Swiss bank accounts. Alleged payments of large sums of money. People of influence around the world with links to the oil for food program. Interesting.
Blue…
And hence I believe our man was “blue”.
Who was paying the “piper” then ?
Well people that can’t be seen running around France.
Question then is…. was it the Blue team that won (clearly there were more around) or did the Red team get there first !
Only time will tell
Katie 10102012 craigmurray(obscure) blog sightb916 noted (not)
@Katie
Thank you for proving my point.
😀
@Phil
Katie knows best, leave the touchy subjects alone, now there’s a good chap.
😉
Odd how similar “Katie” and “Dave” sound in their nay-saying of theories they disagree with, isn’t it? Flat denial with 100% certainty (“no it wasn’t”) without a single shred of evidence to back up their rebuttal. 100% the same MO. Mighty odd, to say the least. Not one single other poster on this blog uses the same style. Not one.
Still, as I always said, Dave is the new Katie!
😀
@james
Question then is…. was it the Blue team that won (clearly there were more around) or did the Red team get there first !
+++++++++++++++++++++
… or else it was a false flag operation and we’re all looking like idiots then. 🙂
Dum fuc q
How du u get pictures ‘n your posts
Blewberd,etc?!
Phil T, are you just a troll or do you have something to contribute, too?
@Blue…
It could very well be.
But it’s a serious set up don’t you think.
Hence I am no way saying that name.
But run through how it would work.
…and then you hit the first problem.
Was “our blue” even on a bike ?
Blue..
Phil T is a good ad for “don’t do drugs”
So now I have a blue team, “Mollier” and Sa’ad et al.
Someone mentioned a Dutch service provider for this site. Natch, I thought of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLEO_%28router%29
Isn’t part of SSTL based in the Netherlands.
Someone else mentioned Nigeria:
http://www.spacemetric.com/node/108
I’ll get way too far OT if this continues.
@Phil T
For an icon, register at gravatar.com…
BUT
They will shop you to the US authorities if they ask for your IP and/or email addr, so take precautions if need be.
@Ferret
“Dum fuc q
How du u get pictures ‘n your posts
Blewberd,etc?!”
I honestly could not work out (I didn’t read it closely) what he was gabbling on about until I read your reply.
Top marks
That’s intriguing Bluebird, about Mollier being missing from that list. Great work.
I want to get the land registry records for Claygate – dare I? I guess it will be ok, seeing as some have paid their quid on Companies House a few times.
James
10 Oct, 2012 – 9:37 pm
They never had that effect on me!
Dopey…
You may have gotten use to them then !
Blue/james
Fun away
Troll/droll
Pair of ….
I visit your wa.k o.f
From tim.2 time …
I get …
Sense?
Non-senze?