The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
I would like to believe (William) Brett Martin remains the untarnished hero in this story, free of contamination by the dark forces of conspiracy or intrigue. However I have to say I have a number of nagging reservations that as yet there has been no attempt on the part of the police to answer. I will list some of them.
1. The initial co-incidence of him being where he was, when he was;
2. The co-incidence of shared similar high tech./defense/nuclear connections;
3. The co-incidence that Martin and Mollier knew one another in the same cycling club, compounded by the fact he neither mentioned the fact in his interview, or when he recounting in impersonal terms “the cyclist” even though he says he manhandled him away from the car;
4. The way in which the police put out the “hero” story before they could even have been sure he was not implicated in the murder;
5. The fact that the police said Martin had made the initial call at 3.48 pm when by his own account, he didn’t. (We still do not know who did at that time!)
6. The contrast between his description of the very calm way he went about dealing with the situation that he found, and Mr Didierjean’s report of meeting him almost incoherent with panic;
7. Why the French police apparently not only gave Martin the “all clear” but also failed apparently to do the obvious forensic fingerprint/DNA/ballistic work on him. Did they retain his clothes for example?
8. He claims he heard no gun shots almost on top of events, yet someone in the village said she heard them;
9. If, as the police first suggested, Mollier was shot just because he was a witness, why did Martin escape the same fate?
10. How, if the reporting of his evidence about the Green SUV is reliable (the French Police obviously thought so because they put the story out) how could he be so vague about his recollection? Imagine an assassination team complete with motorbike racing up this narrow lane. It would force a cyclist off his bike. Even if he had failed to memorise details then, could he have failed to do so when it raced back down towards him after the killing? Would a highly trained pilot not have memorised the registration or at least whether it was left or RH drive?
11. Why did the French authorities allow such an important witness/possible suspect to leave its jurisdiction?
12. Was he given British Government assistance to leave?
13. Who arranged and managed his TV interview. It certainly appeared highly structured and uninformative.
(I think that’s enough questions for now – Ed.)
“Duedil now suddenly gone off line for maintenance – hope that is a coincidence”
FARK !
You know, Dopey does and Bluebird does. Anyone not saying “I’m here tomorrow” means we have a case, Enshalla !
Martin’s better looking.
Not sure if I trust Martin, but I certainly don’t trust anything related to an Al Hilli. I think they’re all as dodgy as they come. No wonder they’re all keeping their heads down in that family.
TimV
Cant answer all of those…. but
8. He prob did.
12. Yes
13. As 12 et al
My thing is. Loughgall and gib.
For me, it is becoming clearer.
HOWEVER… I can not see some things.
The main was is “the relationship between Mollier and SAH” if there was one.
Zirc it cant be. They would arrest you for that.
So some Iraqi Brit gets arrested and jailed for trying to get Zirc to Iran !
Join the club. Nothing new there. So what is the “something else” ?
I have my own preferred theories, but likewise struggle to tie in Mollier with Al Hilli.
If Mollier was just in the wrong place at the wrong time it would make this much easier to piece together.
Dopey…
As confused as I, but what about this.
Or man Jack is a contractor..and based in France.
france is as “leaky as hell” (always was) and Mollier’s Co is the “numero uno” in Zirc.
Al Hilli is a tad “dodgy”, but has dealt with Iran before.
Iran is getting a tad “p*ssed off with being stitched up by Siemens et al so they decide to do a “Mossad”.
Al Hilli bring “whoever” to meet Mollier. Our man Jack hangs back.
The sh*t hits the fan…and that’s what we see.
Meanwhile “Iran” is back in Geneva, with the delegates, ready to fly back…and “our boys” have to come up with a story !
…after all, they can not say “well we were stitching up the Red side” and it went wrong.
Massive out cry from the “Who the hell has any talent” people !
Just remembering that 4 people died here…and then looked at the car !
The rear quarter is shot out ! (pax side).
The front arch (rear wheel drive” mud maybe from the French trying to remove the car (the rear ones are “the escape”), but the rear quarter window !
The shooter(s) was standing therefore to the driverside, as the car was parked nose in. Surely.
Still don’t get the Fusion team…
Directors at Duedil and co house
RMT from 12 Sept 2011 {http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/911100754}
Trading address Flat 2 17 Johns Mews WC1N 2PA
JNT – no trace as director of TF – appt ended 12 Sept 2011.
Think the reg address at the website is out of date:
see here
http://www.dellam.com/05721424-TEAM%20FUSION%20LTD.html
I am speculating that the timing of the family’s departure from Iraq in the late 1970’s was not long before the Iran/Iraq war so I wonder if they were seen as Iranian sympathizers by Saddam for some reason. Just pure speculation of course but on the other hand his visit to Qom on a religious pilgrimage seems a bit unusual for such seemingly secular Shias.
felix
Are you there. I’ll explain if you are.
A guy has a Co…his name and the Co sec.
I was looking thru, hit his Co (which I posted above) and then kooked at though the people.
Obviously one is the Co Sec …and the other is his name.
I then looked on LinkedIn…and that is waht I posted (his name, his Co name and where he is working).
The Sec is at Fifty Five funny Gate…and so is “Jack Martin” !
Would it be cheeky to ask Dr Sharon Leal to have a look at the BM interviews on BBC and ask her opinion of it?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2589073/Liars-are-exposed-by-blinking.html
I’m going to drop her a note. She seems to be the UK expert.
{http://www.port.ac.uk/departments/academic/psychology/staff/title,50515,en.html}
Felix, youre going the wrong way !
If Siver Leaf has the same acc, then you go from there.
From there you find a Co, then look who are the dir’s.
Then you “LinkIn” any of those dir’s.
I posted it above !
Felix….
Funny Gate is the acc of choice for contractors. That’s the point.
So “our boy Jack” is most likely a contractor.
“Brett” is most prob very “blue team”.
BUT he did say “playing with a sibling”. How did he know ?
He wasn’t shot, so may not have been there.
But he was near.
How near ? When near ?
@Dopey –
and another: RAF (regiment) man here..
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/noel-robinson/32/978/a55
But Felix, why RAF Reg ?
I think that alot of chaps at Fusion are just deploying to make a living.
And most likely do a damn good job.
They aren’t hitmen.
My point is, those not on PAYE are still on the books.
Look at Global ? Or any other Co in the CP world.
@Dopey, @James
and another 55er RAFfer
https://www.duedil.com/company/06347782/msl-security-consultants-ltd/people
{http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/matthew-leggett/13/a13/617}
Going up… 2nd floor
Yep.
Found him before. But it proves that….this has alot ALOT of “CP” type guys.
And “Jack” was mostly likely to.
So “ex RAF” guy (NOTE, not exBA guy !) was Close Protection.
I want to get at, for which one ?
Felix…
There IS a link here. You guess that the Brit’s know that and the French.
So we are behind the curve here.
And they wont tell.
Our fella “Jack” has lied. So the feck what !
I want to know why ?
Can you link “Jack” to SM or SAH ? Or both ?
…And the “4pm to 8am” gap, makes me believe that there IS (or was) a clean up of the scene.
There’s a photo of BM here in a BBC clip I hadn’t seen before –
0.15 secs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19593751
There’s also some more footage of the weird location for the intervew immediately before the interview. Sorry if anyone has seen it before – I had missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5Mzzbw4To&feature=related
@Straw
going back a few days: Raymond Brassoud sure doesn’t take many photos of crashed cars. But he likes chess. sorry for the delay in responding.
@Peter
Can we just nail this once and for all
; Catherine Boscardin et Daniel David, sa maman et son compagnon;
Notice the colons. It is a couple. His mother and her “companion”.
Who seems to be {http://fr.viadeo.com/fr/profile/daniel.david}
@Tim V
Why did the police wait until Saturday 8 September before entering the house in Claygate? Did they have to wait for the French police? Sloppy? Did any other services enter the house previously? The most obvious place for clues and they hold off for 2 days???
Or did the French police have to wait for a UK contingent at Col de l’Ire too?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19540445
“French and British police investigators first went into the property on Saturday” [SkyNews Video, Bomb disposal unit…, {http://news.sky.com/story/983064/alps-shootings-police-talk-to-older-daughter}