Let me be upfront: none of my usual contacts, so far, has any knowledge about the very clinical murders in France of the Iraqi origin British Hilli family. I have seen various internet reports of the links of Mr Hilli to the defence industry and that the French cyclist victim was linked to the nuclear industry. I am not immediately concerned that the other cyclist who raised the alarm was ex-RAF; had that fact been sinister, it would have been hidden or he might not have raised the alarm at all.
In short, I really do not know what is happening here and I don’t think normal hierarchies within British security agencies know either. It may be genuinely random, or not. I am not posting to speculate or to spread knowledge, but because unless I do post, commenters will derail other threads to discuss this. Should I discover anything, I will let you know. But we may well never know; we still don’t really know who killed JFK, or Hilda Murrell. There is always an answer, but it is not always known to the public.
No excuse can justify the failure to identify and help the poor little girl who was still alive in the bottom of the car. Discovering if anybody was alive in the car should have outweighed every other consideration for the emergency services. Protocols for the dead will not help them much, whatever they may achieve for abstract justice. The living are easier to serve well, and this was a gross failure.
“valid nuclear usion techniques” – valid nuclear fusion techniques.
Well, Durak, we don’t know who ordered this probable ‘hit’. The info. about the ‘phones is very useful, thanks. This Con-Dem Govt and the Nu-Lab ones before it are cut from similar cloth. Apart from starting wars of aggression, bombing civilians, the lot…
Wrt individual ‘executive action’, the elected politicians and even mainstream functionary people don’t have to – don’t want to – know what the hard state gets up to. I have asked the question on this blog on a number of occasions, ‘does the UK state order the assassination of individuals anywhere in the world?’
It could’ve been any number of states or mafias. All I’m saying is, I would resist the understandable tendency to ascribe any kind of morality to the hard state operators of any country/organisation. After black sites, rendition and the various alleged assassinations around the world, including in Europe, ought we to harbour any remaining illusions? Oh, and let’s not forget the UK’s ‘wonderful’ work in Northern Ireland.
@Saadi
Time was off the essence, when you are spraying DOWNWARDS into the interior of the car, and we are told I believe 43 as the latest number of magic bullets, (15, 25, 30 etc) there will be cartridges all over the place.
Nothing odd here at all. From the Mirror photo front RHD drivers side completely shot out, the door is wide open, front left window, 2 bullet holes, front left middle, totally shot out, furthest rear left, totally shot out (suggesting someone was going for perhaps a sleeping child in the rear, at any rate they were methodical in spraying everywhere), open tailgate window, totally shot out, which suggest it was SHUT when shot out (so who opened it, and why? cops were allegedly forbidden to disturb the crime scene until the Paris boys arrived after a 6 hour drive…) – all this suggests at least two hitmen with automatics (i.e. Uzis) taking out the driver first with two shots to the head through the window at point blank range, (this is according to the official story, but RAFman would not need to have “broken” the RHD driver’s window, because at least two bullets had been fired and it would be easy to push it in), front left, 2 shots again, rest of the car I would wager was methodically sprayed from all sides, although from the Mirror photo we cannot see the far side.
I hear the bodies were riddle with bullets, and I am gobsmacked the 4 year old was not hit.
Must be a miracle…maybe.
Don’t know what happened there!
@Suhayl
What is slightly peculiar is that while the killings seemed to have been executed in a ‘professional’ manner, the killers left behind cartridges, which might suggest either that they didn’t care as they knew they’d be safe afterwards, or that were disturbed before they’d had time to clean up such evidence, or that cartridges were left behind deliberately.
Time was off the essence, when you are spraying DOWNWARDS into the interior of the car, and we are told I believe 43 as the latest number of magic bullets, (15, 25, 30 etc) there will be cartridges all over the place.
Nothing odd here at all. From the Mirror photo front RHD drivers side completely shot out, the door is wide open, front left window, 2 bullet holes, front left middle, totally shot out, furthest rear left, totally shot out (suggesting someone was going for perhaps a sleeping child in the rear, at any rate they were methodical in spraying everywhere), open tailgate window, totally shot out, which suggest it was SHUT when shot out (so who opened it, and why? cops were allegedly forbidden to disturb the crime scene until the Paris boys arrived after a 6 hour drive…) – all this suggests at least two hitmen with automatics (i.e. Uzis) taking out the driver first with two shots to the head through the window at point blank range, (this is according to the official story, but RAFman would not need to have “broken” the RHD driver’s window, because at least two bullets had been fired and it would be easy to push it in), front left, 2 shots again, rest of the car I would wager was methodically sprayed from all sides, although from the Mirror photo we cannot see the far side.
I hear the bodies were riddle with bullets, and I am gobsmacked the 4 year old was not hit.
Must be a miracle…maybe.
Anon,
Interaction of ultra-intense laser light with matter is used in fusion research. It requires the work of a first class CAD engineer as does implosion techniques. Also remember the Adlene Hicheur frame-up?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219304/Big-Bang-scientist-planned-detonate-bomb-wipe-city-size-London-Al-Qaeda-terror-attack.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DPeter%2BAllen
Start thinking bat-man; I cannot disclose further, I am already a ‘conspiraloon’ who considers conspiracy truths not theories.
Tracking – not entirely on point – but worth thinking about.
I guarantee all GSM participants in the area (and perhaps the country and beyond) will be scrutinized.
For example if there was a tourist in the area who owned a GSM/WCDMA device with an IMEI or SIM indicating an unusual origin/roaming partner – or a call made to a suspicious number – that person would be flagged.
Put it another way. If you had a mobile phone in the area (or even further afield) that was anyway unusual in its profile you will be flagged. Whether you used that phone or not.
I always advise people. A Mobile phone is like an advanced tracking device you carry around. You don’t even need to make a call.
Simple algorithms may say that the phone you never used in the area was used with another SIM card 55 days ago to call a number that was used 254 days ago to call another number that made a call to the foreign ministry of Country Y.
And that is a simple case believe me.
And I am talking about any GSM phone built from 1991 onwards – even your old late 90’s legacy Nokia 3310.
In this case I am sure they know quite a bit more than they are saying simply with all the intelligence or lack of it they may have acquired.
Looking at the tailgate, it now does indeed appear to be a reflection. I was thinking someone wanted to spray the rear area behind the rear seats, in case a child was sleeping there, reason being is the rear left hand window is totally shot out, in fact all long the left hand side apart from the front left, with two holes only. And as a previous poster said, an Uzi is not really suitable for close up single shot work, so one shooter taking out the driver with a Glock or whatever, whilst the rear is sprayed with a Uzi or whatever. Front shooter then runs around and fires at least two shots to front left? Then finishes all off with further single or doubles to the brain. Including Sylvain.
Mark,
I am aware, US Top nuke bomb designer Ted Taylor was, in public, strongly against some of the “peaceful” civilian fusion research before his death. He strongly hinted that it would only be a matter of time before they would rediscover some highly classified information concerning nuclear weapons. That thought terrified him.
I really hope this has nothing to do with this case.
http://www.nevadadesertexperience.org/lit/desertvoices/desert_voices_10-2.pdf
She said their dark red BMW had a mountain bike on a roof rack.
taken from:-
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/…-were-executed
about 3/4 down the article
I would bet money this is the bike being ridden by the British cyclist when police arrived
Yes Staw444berry, we only have the official fairytale to go on, and I think one or two have said similar about RAFman. He may have been at the hit, on foot, waiting in the trees. Or in the Green 4×4, or on a motorbike, who knows. Perhaps he was protection, and knew of the “meet” between the two men. Perhaps he was then outgunned as it were, and it was an almighty f***up. Left stranded, what does he do? Takes the bike from the roof rack, and mops up, tends to the 7 year old, makes some PDQ calls to London or Paris, and finally after ten minutes or so calls for assistance, knowing he would be taken care of with the fairytales. Poses as a bloke out for a bike ride who stumbled on a massacre and is a stiff upper lip hero. I know this is probably full of holes but I am thinking aloud. RAFman has something to do with this, it is all simply too pat. Too many holes in the official story. And as someone mentioned earlier, an ex-Pilot living locally part time and so on, all such ***wonderfully precise*** details given away willy nilly, anyone with half a brain could find the bloke’ss name very easily indeed. Having said all that, and RAFman was/is a spook, he could have easily disappeared into the woods when the FUBAR went down. Did he stick around as a moral imperative, for the 7 year old? Possibly. They can’t all be bastards, can they?
Jon/mod,
Pagination has been a great development here however im noticing with extremely long posts it seems less effective on my phone.Any workarounds ?
Thanks.
Torygraph content similar to Mail.
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It also reported that Mr Al-Hilli had worked at the internationally-renowned Rutherford Appleton research centre in the 1980s.
According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material, The People reported.
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It was also reported that French police are hunting two killers after discovering that more than one weapon was used in the shootings.
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a photo of Zaid Al Hilli. Not at all like his brother.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9531436/France-shooting-was-Saad-Al-Hilli-assassinated-over-secret-defence-contract.html
We await further aspersions being cast on Mr Al Hilli’s reputation.
Anyone have a google map link or co-ordinates of the inicdent?
Hey Chris,
I find quite a lot of this armchair amateur forensics a bit self satisfied but….
1.This probably involves fusion technology
2. The BBC is a pantomine show – no story or spin they play out in their pantomine show can be believed, including this one
1 is interesting, 2 is a given.
Yes, posting like this, if one is honest, does involve a degree of self-satisfaction. We are tiny cogs in a HUGE mechanism, and at least now, on the net, before the drawbridge is pulled up by TPTB (not long now…), we can and do make a difference.
Maybe not a big one, but how is one to tell? Without bloggers and their posters, the 911 and 77 fairytales would be rote. We are able to hold the bastards accountable, even if only to ourselves. I’ve been posting at the David Icke site for a few days on this massacre, and it has circa 40,000 hits. I’d wager not all are the normal Icke inhabitants, but a whole new professional crew. Same is happening here, as this thread has also taken off.
I’ve also noticed that some intrepid shiny-arsed jounos are taking our lead and gleefully stealing all our hard work, but that is OK.
Anyways, if you want to see a smug self-satisfied bastard in action, read on. Thank Christ this moron isn’t lecturing to me is all I have to say!
The Al-Hilli Killings, Miss Marple, and Jason Bourne
Fantasy and Speculation
by Binoy Kampmark / September 8th, 2012
It isn’t because someone says there is a dispute between two brothers that he is necessarily the prime suspect in the murder, with bullets to the head, of an entire family.
– Eric Maillaud, French Public Prosecutor on the al-Hilli killings, Sep 7, 2012
Murder can be lots of fun – if you are a conspiracy theorist. What is troubling with these matters is that the kernel of truth is like the Princess and the pea. The latter may be hard to avoid, a troubling discomfort amidst the extensive padding. Hence the valuable currency of intrigue.
What richer ingredients for the gory scene do we need? A hitman or serial killer (dare we use the plural?), shooting members of a British Iraqi family in a quiet location near the French Alpine village of Chevaline above Lake Annecy. Two young survivors, one hiding under the corpse of her mother for eight hours. A heroic Brit who saved the life of seven-year-old Zainab al-Hilli by simply being there at the right time. A cyclist, most probably an unfortunate who stumbled onto the scene, shot five times. (The drama reaches fever pitch with the voyeuristic Daily Mail (Sep 7) obsessed by shot details, blood and clues.)
Whatever can be derived from this, the facts are brutal. Saad al-Hilli of Claygate, Surrey, along with his wife Ikbal and an elderly woman were shot twice through the car’s windows, though depending on which account you find, it may well have been three times. As the Daily Mail tends to be numerically challenged, the figures are bound to change. The two children survived, though the older girl suffered beatings and gun wounds. The children, being the only witnesses to the killings, are being hounded by psychiatrists and police alike for clues.
British fantasies of mass death revolve around country sets and lush greenery – the sort that former Prime Minister John Major poetically inscribed. Think warm ale, ladies cycling to church on a Sunday, and cricket on the village green. If it’s not the doddering, sinister Miss Marple increasing the mortality rate in communities by her very appearance, it’s Inspector Barnaby of Midsomer Common finding both morgue and desk full of bloody items. Where there is peace, quite and robins, there is death.
A cursory glance of the reports coming out of the Chevaline killings suggests that the Miss Marple narrative is forming in certain press circles. The murders may have arisen out of a family inheritance disagreement. Saad al-Hilli’s brother has been put into the picture. “It seems,” claims Public Prosecutor Eric Maillaud, “there was a dispute about money… The brother must be heard at length.” For the English sensibility, one can kill for that, and less.
These killings are, however, of another order. They seem a touch exotic. For the Daily Mail, they are not in the spirit of the amateurish code. From cricket to murder, Briton has very much been a fan of the capable amateur. These killings seem foreign and slick – this is discomfortingly professional. In the words of an unnamed source, “The fact that intense gunfire was heard for less than 30 seconds – and it was so brutally effective – strengthens the theory of experienced hit-men being responsible.” The Daily Mail, true to form, note that police are “hunting for a Peugeot 4×4 being driven by a man in a black shirt which was spotted near the scene by a young woman and an RAF veteran who stumbled across the bloodbath.”
Julian Stedman, al-Hilli’s accountant, was not averse to speculating about the professionalism of the murders. “They were shot through the head so that sounds like a professional killing, which is really very worrying. A casual killer would not do that.” When accountants turn into criminologists, something is truly afoot. Move over Agatha Christie; enter, then, into matters more familiar with adrenaline pumping Robert Ludlum.
A struggle is taking place only hours after the killings over narratives – will Miss Marple or Jason Bourne win out in how best to digest this event? Are we talking about matters of inheritance and squalid fraternal disagreement over properties, or an international playground in which JB will warm his trigger and crack a few skulls with an assassin’s decorum? It may not even be any of these – one suggestion is that the murders were racially motivated.
An international spy dimension might be involved – at least that would be the theory if you start wading through the greyish flotsam. Al-Hilli, an engineer from Iraq, was on a British special branch watch list when the Iraq War started in 2003, though this nugget is another Daily Mail special. He worked in computer-assisted design for Surrey Satellites, owned by the defense contractor EADS (Guardian, Sep 7). The logic of conspiracy is as tenable here as the design theory about the universe. Pieces fall neatly into place, provided you can find them.
The shot cyclist Sylvain Mollier from Ugine, ponder the bloggers, the bored and the mildly insane, worked for Cezus, a subsidiary of Areva. Areva so happens to be chief producer of zirconium, a metal used for nuclear fuel cladding. Areva, in turn, has links with Eurodif, which Iran obtained a 10 percent stake during the reign of the Shah. Finger pointing at Mossad is bound to follow – when one has run out of ideas, the Israeli secret service is a handy culprit.
The French police will be dismissed by the armchair populists across the channel as incompetent – don’t forget Princess Diana, intone the indignant crime watchers – and the al-Hilli murders will provide as much entertainment, if not more so, than a quiet evening with Barnaby and a bloodied cricket bat.
Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne and can be reached at: [email protected].
The 4 year old girl is back in the UK and the older sister has been ‘taken out of a medically induced coma’.
Sky News
While colleagues and friends here consider these peculiar murders may I reflect Durak’s words, ‘this is a brutal callous’ establishment and I call apon history to reveal again that Her Majesty’s Secret Service maintained secret relationships with bin Laden and al Qaeda that served it’s interests.
MI6, actually funded and worked with al Qaeda in a plot to assassinate and overthrow Libya’s Muammar Qaddafy. Details of the relationship emerged after the domestic intelligence (MI5) officer David Shyler, went public with documents detailing the relationship between Britain and al Qaeda.
In November 2002, and in the wake of the attack on New York’s ‘twin towers’ as Shayler’s trial brought the case to public attention, Blair’s government invoked measures of the OSA to hide embarrassing information. PM Tony Blair issued a ‘D’ Notice requiring previously published news stories on the case be withdrawn and removed from public websites. Only an ‘Observer’ story remained [and was copied] that suggested the degree to which the government [and SIS] were exposed by the facts emergence.
I say this so young people here, future generations can indeed carrying on the fight against government lies and the deceptive ‘war on terror’ after I have gone.
God’s speed.
Mark,
Re your reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adl%C3%A8ne_Hicheur
Bizarre
Don’t think I am imagining it but just after the 4 year old was found she was reported to have said “didn’t know who the good guys or bad guys were”. Now that may be a general comment about why she stayed hidden for so long but could also mean that she saw an exchange of fire possibly from someone acting as “protection”. Apologies if this has already been discounted.
Nope, this is an excellent point I think. I have a four year old, and I’m not sure if she would have said those words about good guys and bad guys, but it is possible. It obviously suggests she saw shooting, possibly between factions, as you suggest, before she was bundled away under skirts and luggage.
That is IF that actually happened. Call me crazy but I am having a very hard time with this 8 hour period. Could it be that something ELSE happened to that girl during those 8 hours? I’m thinking MK, and remember she is still only in contact with trick cyclists, a “social worker” and two relatives. Not at all sure about this but something is wrong with the 8 hour fairytale.
Now, HOW could all that have happened in the official story of 30 seconds? RAF man says he heard no gunfire on approach, hence suppressors. But witnesses, multiple, PLURAL, at a nearby camp site, say they heard about 30 second’s worth of automatic fire.
Sounds like RAF man is lying, like he lied about BREAKING the drivers window to shut off the engine.
Thanks to Mary we now learn that the 4 year old is back in the UK. I wonder if Tavistock trick cyclists will be doing the biz?
Mark G. lasers are also used in simulating nuclear fusion/explosions, there are no, all telling, seismographic readings others usually get from test explosions. Britain is using this modern form of testing for their new nukes.
I hope you are not going any time soon Mark.
Have you read this by Michel Chossudovsky? How things change!
9/11 Mastermind Osama bin Laden: America’s Anti-Soviet “Peace Warrior” and CIA “Intelligence Asset”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-laden-americas-anti-soviet-peace-warrior/
This is the 1993 Fisk article in the Independent to which Prof Chossudovsky refers.
{http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/antisoviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-now-uses-them-for-largescale-building-projects-in-sudan-robert-fisk-met-him-in-almatig-1465715.html}
MJ
That’s interesting because a couple of days ago I heard a radio interview with Al-Hilli’s accountant who disclosed that his client was “very comfortably off”.
His freelance rate was apparently 28 quid an hour, doesnt sound like a fortune to me, after tax etc etc. And possible spells of zero income between contracts. But that never happened (wink).
MI6 psychiatrists will work on both of the girls.
Will the older girl have ‘lost her memory’? Thinking of Trevor Rees-Jones here.
MI6 psychiatrists will work on both girls.
The Unnamed Ex-Raf Cyclist (TUERC) certainly does appear to be lying. My guess is he was backup, and was sent in to get something after something fouled up. Something always fouls up.
Which side he was on – assassination team or protection – is unclear; could be either.
@Anders7777 – i agree – i did make sure to counter act my own self righteous point! All of this is important obviously but if the bigger picture of the scam of mass media manipulation isn’t addressed how do we make sure great sites such as this are more than just an alternative sideshow?
N_
Who said he had no protection?
One ‘cyclist’ shot dead; another ‘cyclist’, ex-RAF, straight onto the scene.
Come on! How much manpower did the assassination team have? Not enough to stop a couple of cyclists 500m away?
My bet has always been on 4, tbh
Interesting that it’s the French cyclist who got killed, not the British one. Reminds me of the Princess Diana assassination.
quite, this whole episode reminds me of the Diana job!
So the British embassy have put 20 people onto the case! That rather suggests national security.
RAFman had to be protected, at the very least…
Including its media management side. What they won’t want is speculation in France that the British protection looked the other way and, nous sommes désolés, the French guy was just collateral, like Henri Paul. (Paul was the French security guy who got killed with Princess Diana – and before anyone calls him a chauffeur, no he wasn’t a chauffeur).
The question is not whether he had protection. He obviously had protection. The question is what happened with that protection.
Kidon Teams = 4 =
1. Tracer
2. Transporter
3. Helper
4. Killer.
Notice below the extensive use of MOTORCYCLES
A new book reveals that a department known as VKidon within the Mossad has dispatched assassins into Iran in order to murder the nuclear scientists, thereby stunting the country’s nuclear energy program.
Authors Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman in their book Spies against Armageddon: Inside Israel’s Secret Wars state that the notorious spy agency has killed at least four Iranian nuclear scientists, including targeting them with operatives on ***motorcycles***, an assassination technique used by the elite killers at Kidon.
The Kidon killers “excel at accurate shooting at any speed and staying steady to shoot and to place exquisitely shaped sticky bombs” and consider it their hallmark.
Kidon, known to be one of the world’s most efficient killing machines, is technically described as a little Mossad within Mossad.
Tasked with carrying out covert ops across the world, Kidon has embarked on a number of black ops and assassinations in different countries.
Those who kill for Kidon are selected either from within the Mossad spy agency or from among the natives of the countries where they plan to carry out assassinations.
For instance, in case of the nuclear assassinations conducted in Iran by Kidon, they basically hired people with Iranian or dual nationalities. One of the Mossad assassins was Majid Jamali Fashi who confessed he had cooperated with Mossad for financial reasons only.
Majid Jamali Fashi assassinated Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, a professor at Tehran University in January 2011 by blowing an explosive-laden motorbike via a remote-controlled device. He reportedly received training from Mossad inside Israel as well as $120,000 to assassinate the Iranian scientist. According to his confession, Jamali Fashi received forged documents in Azerbaijan’s Heydar Aliyev Airport to travel to Tel Aviv.
He confessed, “I woke up early in the morning and as we were trained I went to the warehouse. I had to prepare the box which contained the bomb. I took the motorbike out of the house and reached a location that I had to contact them. I went to the alley [where the professor resided]. It was vacant. No one was there. I brought the bike to the sidewalk and parked it in front of the house. They told me that the mission had been accomplished and that I had to discard my stuff.”
Jamali Fashi was executed under the Iranian judicial system on 15 May, 2012. Parenthetically, Azerbaijan has in recent years become an apparent haven for Mossad spies and assassins.
Another Mossad operative of Iranian nationality has been identified as Ja’far Khoshzaban, alias Javidan, who has been working under the auspices of Azeri security forces and who has been involved in nuclear assassinations. Iranian intelligence ministry has demanded the extradition of Mossad’s Iranian spy from Azerbaijan. Iran has reportedly obtained documents, suggesting that Azeri officials have aided and abetted Mossad and CIA agents in their targeted killings of Iranian nuclear scientists, namely Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan. As a matter of fact, CIA is constantly mentioned along with Mossad as the main elements in the nuclear assassinations.
Ahmadi Roshan was assassinated on January 11, 2012 when an unknown motorcyclist attached a magnetic bomb to his car near a college building of Allameh Tabatabaei University in northern Tehran.
Using the same ‘sticking bomb technique’, the Kidon assassins attached bombs to the vehicles of Iranian university professors Majid Shahriari and Fereydoun Abbasi and detonated the explosives on November 29, 2010. Professor Shahriari was killed immediately, but Dr. Abbasi and his wife only sustained minor injuries.
As a rule, the Kidon kill team is comprised of four highly seasoned men: 1. Tracer 2. Transporter 3. Helper 4. Killer. The tracer spots the target. The transporter guides the assassination team to the target. The helper basically serves as the motorcycle driver who helps the killer and the killer is tasked with shooting the target or attaching magnetic bomb to the car of the victim.
According to theSpies against Armageddon, the Kidon agents are well-trained in shooting and placing “exquisitely shaped sticky bombs” and consider it their hallmark.
These facts aside, it rather seems sort of naïve to disregard the role of the CIA-backed MKO terrorists in the nuclear assassinations and give all the credit to the Kidon agents. There is solid evidence which evinces the MKO role in the assassination of the Iranian scientists.
American commentator Richard Silverstein believes that the primary source of income for the terrorist Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) comes from the assassinations the group conducts within the Iranian soil at the behest of the Mossad. He argues that “If you’re a terrorist on behalf of Israel, as MKO is, then you’re kosher as far as (US-based Israeli publicist) Dershowitz is concerned. And your money is golden. Where does the money come from? Possibly from the Iran assassinations the MKO performs on Mossad’s behalf, which undoubtedly pay well. Then there’s the possibility that the USD 400-million Bush allocated for destabilizing Iran in 2007 has found its way either to the MKO or Mossad (or both)”
More to the point, the CIA works in the same satanic league with the Mossad and MKO. Time and again, the officials in Washington have encouraged and even confessed to the killings of the Iranian nuclear scientists.
Former US senator Rick Santorum callously described the assassination of Iranian scientists as “wonderful,” threatening that those who work for Iran’s nuclear program “are not safe.”
“On occasion, scientists working on the nuclear program in Iran turn up dead. I think that’s a wonderful thing, candidly.”
He also said, “I think we should send a very clear message that if you are a scientist from Russia, North Korea, or from Iran and you are going to work on a nuclear program to develop a bomb for Iran, you are not safe.”
Also, former Bush administration ambassador to the UN John Bolton said on Fox News that the killing of an Iranian scientist and sanctions against Iran constitute only “half-measures in the quest to stunt Iran’s nuclear ambitions.”
Former White House Speaker Newt Gingrich has called for covert action, including “taking out their scientists” and cyberwarfare.
Quotations of this nature are legion and all these facts reinforce the idea that Washington has been making clandestine efforts to sabotage Iran’s nuclear energy program in cahoots with Tel Aviv and their lackey i.e. the MKO.
Binoy Kampmark “has research interests in the institution of war, diplomacy, international relations, 20th Century History and law […]” “He is also engaged in a project on the origins of neoconservatism in the United States, notably in attitudes to international institutions and law.”
I bet that will be a laugh, his piece on the origins of neoconservatism. Put the focus anywhere but JINSA, eh? I mean when Arabs connected with the defence industry get gunned down in a French forest, and up pops the author of the phrase “when one has run out of ideas, the Israeli secret service is a handy culprit”, we couldn’t expect this twit to be so bereft of “ideas” as to look at JINSA, could we, or Michael Ledeen, or AIPAC, or anywhere like that.
But why would an academic psy-ops creep like this one be put onto this story?
One of the papers he has delivered in his stunning career was entitled “How the British can Save the American Empire”, at the American Identity in the Twenty-First Century Conference, Rothermere Institute of American Studies, University of Oxford, November 9-11, 2006.
What a creep!
i agree – i did make sure to counter act my own self righteous point! All of this is important obviously but if the bigger picture of the scam of mass media manipulation isn’t addressed how do we make sure great sites such as this are more than just an alternative sideshow?
No worries Chris, I was just using your quite correct observation as a catalyst for us all at sites such as this – no censorship her, none at Icke, which is pretty rare tbh these days, in my experience – as far as your last sentence, I honestly think the bastards have got everything so sewn up in all areas of life that there is precious little we can do now. We’ve alas gone beyond the tipping point, we did that hundreds of years ago, since the likes of Dee (the original 007 sigil), who handed the work of ages job down to Bacon, and here we are today, totally phucked, if you get my drift.
FWIW I have listened to Alan Watt’s five days a week 40 minute free podcasts for several years. I very much recommend him to all, because he forensically breaks down how this hoodwink is being played out on us all, by the big corporations, the CFR, RIIA, and so on – the octopus is so vast and has so much wealth I don’t see what can de done other than Ken Roach’s new paradigm arriving on 21st Dec 2012.
I’m not particularly holding my breath on that one, but one never knows…
Alan Watt here:
http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/
N_
MI6 psychiatrists will work on both of the girls.
Will the older girl have ‘lost her memory’? Thinking of Trevor Rees-Jones here.
MI6 psychiatrists will work on both girls.
The Unnamed Ex-Raf Cyclist (TUERC) certainly does appear to be lying. My guess is he was backup, and was sent in to get something after something fouled up. Something always fouls up.
Which side he was on – assassination team or protection – is unclear; could be either.
Agree with the above. If SAH and Sylvain were exchanging memory sticks, or, the horror!, papers, I would imagine the shooters’ team would have searched for them if they felt they had time. Maybe that wasn’t crucial, because what happened appears to have been a fait accompli anyhoos…if they knew about a meet, one or both would have been bugged somehow, probably for years, almost certainly in SAH’s case. RAFman will have had at least 10 long minutes to find any evidence and deal with it, secrete it in the woods, burn it, swallow it! He sounds like a resourceful chap, with nerves of steel!
Binoy Kampmark “has research interests in the institution of war, diplomacy, international relations, 20th Century History and law […]” “He is also engaged in a project on the origins of neoconservatism in the United States, notably in attitudes to international institutions and law.”
I bet that will be a laugh, his piece on the origins of neoconservatism. Put the focus anywhere but JINSA, eh? I mean when Arabs connected with the defence industry get gunned down in a French forest, and up pops the author of the phrase “when one has run out of ideas, the Israeli secret service is a handy culprit”, we couldn’t expect this twit to be so bereft of “ideas” as to look at JINSA, could we, or Michael Ledeen, or AIPAC, or anywhere like that.
But why would an academic psy-ops creep like this one be put onto this story?
One of the papers he has delivered in his stunning career was entitled “How the British can Save the American Empire”, at the American Identity in the Twenty-First Century Conference, Rothermere Institute of American Studies, University of Oxford, November 9-11, 2006.
What a creep!
strong>A whore
But why would an academic psy-ops creep like this one be put onto this story?
To massage the story and to ridicule blogosphere sleuthers (exact words by this suckass cretin = the bored and the mildly insane) who hold him and his whoring employers to account. That piece will have got the bastard another 5 year grant, 13 pieces of silver, and a promotion.
OOPS
Binoy Kampmark => A Whore
Updated news:
-There was more than one killer, they know the number of weapons used and the type.
-The cyclist was shot 7 times
-The 7 year old was already outside the car when it started.
[link to http://www.theweek.co.uk]
The rest of the article is speculation from John O’Connor and a few others but the above 3 points are FACT from the French investigators.
Sylvain was now shot SEVEN times…
Seems a tad excessive to me, although I suppose it could have been a burst on auto.
Seems someone wanted this chap very very VERY, ummm, ahhh – mort?