Let me be upfront: none of my usual contacts, so far, has any knowledge about the very clinical murders in France of the Iraqi origin British Hilli family. I have seen various internet reports of the links of Mr Hilli to the defence industry and that the French cyclist victim was linked to the nuclear industry. I am not immediately concerned that the other cyclist who raised the alarm was ex-RAF; had that fact been sinister, it would have been hidden or he might not have raised the alarm at all.
In short, I really do not know what is happening here and I don’t think normal hierarchies within British security agencies know either. It may be genuinely random, or not. I am not posting to speculate or to spread knowledge, but because unless I do post, commenters will derail other threads to discuss this. Should I discover anything, I will let you know. But we may well never know; we still don’t really know who killed JFK, or Hilda Murrell. There is always an answer, but it is not always known to the public.
No excuse can justify the failure to identify and help the poor little girl who was still alive in the bottom of the car. Discovering if anybody was alive in the car should have outweighed every other consideration for the emergency services. Protocols for the dead will not help them much, whatever they may achieve for abstract justice. The living are easier to serve well, and this was a gross failure.
Anon
French journalist say that there is a “secret defence” notice on 75% of the information regarding this case.
Sylvain is the key here…
Slain Brit Saad al-Hilli had links to a top-secret British nuclear lab, we can reveal.
Iraqi-born engineer Saad, 50, worked at the internationally-renowned Rutherford Appleton research centre in the 1980s.
His links to the lab will fuel conspiracy theories about the gun attack which left the dad of two, his wife Ikbal and another woman dead in their BMW in the French Alps on Wednesday.
Our revelation follows claims that Saad’s family had owned an engineering plant in Iraq, that he was spied on by Special Branch during the Gulf War and that his aerial satellite photo firm worked for the Ministry of Defence.
According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material.
In May one of its former physicists Dr Adlene Hicheur was jailed for five years for plotting al Qaeda attacks.
For the record:
Adlène Hicheur (born 1976)[1] is a particle physicist with dual Algerian and French citizenship.[2] After his master of theoretical physics in Lyon, he joined LAPP (Laboratoire d’Annecy le Vieux de Physique des Particules) to work on the BaBar experiment, located at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. His thesis, defended in 2003, was about the production of high energy Eta prime mesons in the decays of B mesons. After that he was a Postdoctorate in England at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, where he worked on the ATLAS experiment at LHC. He then joined the high energy physics department of École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) and works currently on the LHCb experiment.
Adlène Hicheur was arrested in France on October 8, 2009, after police allegedly intercepted emails between himself and Al-Qaida in Islamic Maghreb, an Algerian based terrorist organisation. Two weeks after his arrest, the Algerian media [3] compared Hicheur to Lotfi Raissi, who was first suspected of terrorism before being released without charges. An International Support Committee was organized by Adlene’s friends and colleagues[4] to support Adlene and to request a fair investigation.
General director of the National Police Frédéric Péchenard stated in November 2009 that Hicheur planned to attack a base of the National Defence in Annecy, which harbours the 27ème bataillon de chasseurs alpins, involved in Afghanistan.[5]
Hicheur’s trial started on March 29, 2012, in Paris.[6] In May 2012 Hicheur was sentenced to “five years in prison for plotting terrorist attacks.”[7] On 15 May Hicheur left prison and decided not to appeal his sentence.[8]
Some quotes:
“Saad didn’t like Americans and didn’t mind saying so. He would tell me about things they were doing in Iraq which hadn’t been reported here and when I looked into them they seemed to be true.”
In May one of its former physicists Dr Adlene Hicheur was jailed for five years for plotting al Qaeda attacks.
According to SKY news at 12 noon.
The Al-Hilli house is being searched by armed officers and by firearms inspectors, yesterday a forensic search was done.
Quoting: Conrach
I wonder what they are planting…
From theweek.co.uk article:
“But John O’Connor, former head of Scotland Yard’s Flying Squad, told The Sunday Times that the facts point to a state-sponsored assassination rather than a family dispute.”
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/annecy-shootings/48900/annecy-murders-%E2%80%98were-political-assassination%E2%80%99-hit-squad#ixzz25zgF1MJz
Iran is using dometically-produced fuel for its reactors. Where would they get a supply of zirconium to clad the fuel rods?
http://www.cezus-consult.com/page/
AREVA CEZUS Home
Welcome to
Cezus
CEZUS is a world leader in refractory metal manufacturing for the most demanding industries such as aerospace, nuclear and chemical processing.
Its site located at Jarrie in France near Grenoble since 1961 is the largest world producer of zirconium sponge and hafnium metal. In addition to these two metals, Cezus also develops and produces Zr and Hf based oxides, salts and chemicals.
Our certifications ISO 9001, OHSAS 18001 and ISO 14001 together with the high quality of the selected raw material insure very high purity and perfect traceability to our products.
‘I don’t know exactly when they [family members] will see the girls but it will be in the presence of an investigator,’ said Mr Maillaud.
He said Zeena would not be interviewed as an official witness in the future, but Zainab will be.
‘When she’s recovered, and medics give the green light, she will be interviewed,’ said Mr Maillaud.
‘Her injuries are still extremely serious. As long as we can’t talk to her, we won’t talk to her.’
Two gendarmes – both women – were given responsibility for establishing a dialogue with the two girls.
Both women are trained psychologists, specialising in working with children. They are French women from Chambery, but have a translator with them at all times.
The gendarmes have interviewed Zeena in a room furnished in bright colours and small armchairs and tables, to make her feel as comfortable as possible.
They spoke to her in soft voices and did everything to ‘diffuse the situation so as not to induce a second trauma,’ said a police source.
He added: ‘The aim is to create a fluid dialogue – to get the child talking on her own accord.’
The gendarme psychiatrists have been using the so-called ‘Melanie Method’ to interview Zeena, and will do the same with Zaina.
It entails placing the child in a comfortable, relaxed environment with soft toys places around the room etc.
Then the children are formally asked anything – they are simply ‘coaxed’ in a relaxed, informal manner.
Photographs can be shown to the children. When Zeena was shown a picture of her mother, for example, she exclaimed ‘Mummy!’
Zaina is likely to be shown pictures of the car, and other aide memories which may prompt her to recall the chilling events which led to the four murders.
Le Nouvel Observateur
“(…) De source policière, le calibre de l’arme ou des armes est de 7,65 mm. Cette technique des deux balles pour achever les victimes, qui apparaît systématique, semble accréditer la présence de plus d’un tireur.
Au total, près de 25 douilles ont été retrouvées sur cette route forestière à proximité du lac d’Annecy, où la famille al-Hilli séjournait en camping. (…)”
It is also clear that about twenty 7.65 mm caliber sockets were found at the crime scene, there is no need to fantasize!
The weapon used was not an Uzi submachine gun, but a semi-automatic pistol, even if the Mossad did it, they are not necessarily morons!
The choice of this caliber would suggest that the killers are professionals, because it is a very accurate and powerful enough caliber. In addition, the shooter uses perfectly this weapon, obviously.
@Anders7777 – i would concur that what Alan Watt http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ has been talking about for years is all proving to be true and he provides actual links to back up every single claim/point he makes
I wouldnt say that ‘they’ (cue horror hammer house echo) have it all sewn up though – the problem for all those who are complicit is that they are stuck in a spiralling viper cesspit together – eventually they will have to start attacking eack other as we are starting to see now. Those that have been sucked in by this antiquated imperialist victorian fantasy have still just about got time to get out. Otherwise a modern Nuremberg trial awaits them all
Mossad use 7.65mm calibre weapons. Apparently the Beretta Model 70 32-ACP is their weapons of choice. It was also 7.65mm ammo that was used to kill Gerald Bull:
“When the 61-year-old Bull answered the doorbell of his home, he was shot five times in the head and the neck, each kidon firing their 7.65 pistol in turn, leaving Bull dead on his doorstep.”
src: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7254807/Mossads-licence-to-kill.html
Hi Chris
I wouldnt say that ‘they’ (cue horror hammer house echo) have it all sewn up though – the problem for all those who are complicit is that they are stuck in a spiralling viper cesspit together – eventually they will have to start attacking eack other as we are starting to see now. Those that have been sucked in by this antiquated imperialist victorian fantasy have still just about got time to get out. Otherwise a modern Nuremberg trial awaits them all
I hope you are right, but I am a realist these days, lol, took me 30 years to figure out the game. I haven’t totally given up or else I’d be paralytic somewhere and not chasing these bastards down. I post a lot on forums in the very real knowledge that I’m clueing a few people up worldwide, who will hopefully create a snowball effect. Tptb are very aware of the power of the net and I’m sure it is top priority to hobble it and us in a Fabian glacier-type way. We do indeed live in interesting times!
Tomorrow is the 11th anniversary of 911, and we have a parade in London. I don’t feel at all happy about this numerology. The London parade must be irresistible to a certain mindset.
Slightly off topic so I’ll shut up, but this massacre is overshadowing other big news, such as France recognising Alfred Kida in Syria, if I am not mistaken. And other big stuff too, which is getting buried.
Mossad use 7.65mm calibre weapons. Apparently the Beretta Model 70 32-ACP is their weapons of choice. It was also 7.65mm ammo that was used to kill Gerald Bull:
“When the 61-year-old Bull answered the doorbell of his home, he was shot five times in the head and the neck, each kidon firing their 7.65 pistol in turn, leaving Bull dead on his doorstep.”
Indeed,
From 2006, a story about British officials clearing a shipment of zirconium for export to Iran.
Bulgarian officials were on the ball, and stopped the shipment. After some negotiations with British authorities, the shipment was cleared and continued on its way to Iran.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060109/world.htm#1
London, January 8
Britain allowed the export to Iran of a cargo of radioactive material that experts believe could be used by Tehran in a nuclear weapons programme, a media report claimed today.
The disclosure by The Observer has prompted calls for an inquiry into how the international trade in such compounds is controlled.
On August 31, a truck carrying 1,000 kg of zirconium silicate supplied by a British firm was stopped by Bulgarian customs at the Turkish border on its way to Tehran, after travelling 2,400 km from Britain, through Germany and Romania, without being stopped, the report said, adding zirconium could be used as a component of a nuclear programme.
According to an expert, it is used in nuclear reactors to stop fuel rods corroding and can also be used as part of a nuclear warhead. The metal can be extracted from zirconium silicate. It is because the compound can be used for military purposes that its trade is usually tightly controlled.
The fact that a British firm was allowed to sell the compound without scrutiny will raise questions for the British government over its controls on sensitive materials.
Intelligence documents disclosed last week in The Guardian detailed how Iran was allegedly creating agencies and middlemen to procure equipment and knowhow in Europe in a covert attempt to build nuclear weapons.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is expected this week to order the resumption of tests on machinery that can be used to make weapons-grade uranium, the newspaper said. — PTI
[link to articles.cnn.com]
Natanz is where Iran’s nuclear fuel rods are being made.
[link to articles.cnn.com]
Earlier this year, another Iranian nuclear scientist, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, was killed by a motorcycle bomber. Did his work involve the nuclear fuel rods?
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
Hi Bajer
That article by Gordon Thomas – I was given his book Gideon’s Spies for an Xmas present by my nephew! Long book, several hundred pages, couldn’t put it down. Funny thing is, the Israelis are not invincible. I managed to work in both Israel and Saudi, a big no no for both countries, dozens of trips. DId it legally but my lips are sealed, lol.
Le JDD 09.09.2012 The Journal du Dimanche site offers real-time tracking
Derniers témoins
Eux, les enquêteurs ne les ont pas entendus. Pas encore. Et pourtant… Ils sont certainement les derniers à avoir vu la famille Al-Hilli vivante. Eux, ce sont deux ouvriers maçons. Le jour du drame, mercredi, ils travaillaient dans une maison proche de l’endroit où la BMW a été retrouvée. Le dernier chalet avant le lieu du crime, face à une ferme. Et ce chalet, incroyable hasard, appartiendrait à un Anglais, un ancien de la RAF. Comme le témoin clé, ce cycliste qui a découvert la BMW avec ses occupants morts.
Lorsqu’ils ont aperçu cette voiture immatriculée en Angleterre qui montait la côte, ces ouvriers, qui avaient pris du retard sur le chantier, ont pris peur : et si le propriétaire, leur client, débarquait? Ils ont vérifié, bien regardé la BMW. Ce n’était pas lui, alors ils ont repris leur travail. Peu de temps après, c’est la tuerie. Très vite, ils entendent parler d’un drame. Affolés, ils prennent peur, veulent éviter les questions. Ils préfèrent quitter le chantier. Et s’ils avaient, aussi, aperçu la voiture des tueurs? “No comment”, lâche l’un deux. R.B.
The, investigators have not heard. Yet. And yet … They are certainly the last person to have seen the Al-Hilli alive. Them, two bricklayers. The day of the tragedy, Wednesday, they worked in a house near where the BMW was found. The last cabin before the scene, in front of a farm. And chalet, amazing coincidence, belonged to an Englishman, a former RAF. As the key witness, the cyclist who discovered the BMW with its dead occupants.
When they saw this car registered in England coming up the coast, these workers, who had fallen behind on the site, took fright: and if the owner, their clients, landed? They checked the BMW looked good. It was not him, then they resumed their work. Shortly after, it’s killing. Soon, they hear of a tragedy. Terrified, they get scared, want to avoid questions. They prefer to leave the site. And they, too, saw the car killers? “No comment,” one of them loose. RB
I know a few guys that worked at Rutherford (RAL) during the 90’s on the JANET network. It isn’t that secret to be honest – just a bunch of self-important academics. I wouldn’t attach much significance to working there. I am not sure you even had to sign the OSA back then.
One of the articles in today’s papers said that al Hilli wouldn’t have signed the OSA. Can’t remember the source.
anders7777: Iran is in the process of manufacturing a fuel assembly for it’s Heavy water reactor in Arak. It may be plausible that that they have not mastered the difficult process of fabricating and processing pure nuclear grade Zircaloy (the separation of zirconium and Hafnium) as described here,
‘Commercial zirconium metal typically contains 1–2.5% of hafnium, which is not problematic because the chemical properties of hafnium and zirconium are rather similar. Their neutron-absorbing properties differ strongly, however, necessitating the separation of hafnium from zirconium for applications involving nuclear reactors.[17] Several separation schemes are in use.[16] The liquid-liquid extraction of the thiocyanate-oxide derivatives, exploits the slightly greater solubility of the hafnium derivative in methyl isobutyl ketone vs water. This method is used mainly in United States. Zr and Hf can also be separated by fractional crystallization of potassium hexafluorozirconate (K2ZrF6), which is less soluble in water than the analogous hafnium derivative. Fractional distillation of the tetrachlorides, also called extractive distillation, is used primarily in Europe. A quadruple VAM (vacuum arc melting) process, combined with hot extruding and different rolling applications is cured using high-pressure high-temperature gas autoclaving, resulting in reactor-grade zirconium that is about 10 times more expensive than the hafnium-contaminated commercial grade. The separated hafnium can be used for control rods of the reactor.[18] The separation of hafnium is especially important for nuclear applications since Hf has very high neutron absorption cross-section, 600 times higher than zirconium, and therefore has to be removed for reactor applications.[19]’
Or it’s fabrication into the finished Zircaloy product.
Iran proceses and seperates Zirconium here, although it’s undetermined if this plant is operational. Obviously, a delay in manufacturing of the fuel assemblies will substantially delay the start of the Arak reactor which could be used to produce the fissile material for weapons.
http://www.nti.org/facilities/162/
In any case, as I said on day 1 – If I were a betting man I would say the Iranians will be implicated, regardless of who actually did it (and possibly they or another entity were ‘tricked/manipulated’ into doing it). This is intended to be a very public affair.
Could very well be, wars have started over far less.
@janesmith
http://www.chemcases.com/nuclear/nc-06.html
It’s also worth noting that Iran often procures nuclear technologies, company to company. It’s perfectly possible that Mr Al-Hilli had been approached by an intermediary in lets say Dubai rather then dealing direct.
A non nuclear scenario could be that Iran has an active missile and satellite program and Zirconium is used as a component as well as in certain ceramics for these applications.
A possible second, less likely scenario might be to do with Syria’s destroyed reactor in Al-Kibar. This might be unfinished business from that episoide.
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
Anders 7777 said: “Slightly off topic so I’ll shut up, but this massacre is overshadowing other big news, such as France recognising Alfred Kida in Syria, if I am not mistaken. And other big stuff too, which is getting buried”
Exactly-that was the main point i was trying to make-there is a danger that we sometimes get overly caught up in the minutiae whilst missing the bigger picture
Bajer,
I thought Kock and the SAS were involved in the murder of Bull
This comes from Wikispooks,
‘Gerald James has this to say about him in a recently posted document
All our main companies were involved with Space Research Corporation (“SRC”) and the late Dr Gerald Bull who was behind the Supergun and other secret projects which Astra companies were also involved in. In 1989 I realised we had a hugely dangerous individual on our main Board and the BMARC Board who was an MI6 agent. This individual, Stephanus Adolphus Kock had high level political connections to Thatcher, Heseltine, Younger, Hanley, etc as well as MI5 and MI6 connections.
It is now clear to me that he was involved in the murder of Dr Gerald Bull in Brussels on 22nd march 1990 and Jonathan Moyle in Santiago, Chile on 31st March 1990. BMARC was the only company outside the Atomic Weapons research Establishment and Government Arms depots with the capability to store nuclear bombs like Redbeard and WE177.
Association with “Group 13”
Gerald James says that, following his expulsion from the Chairmanship of Astra, he undertook research on Kock whom he alleges was instrumental in the deliberate sabotage and demise of the company. In addition to learning of Kock’s intimate association with former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, he also discovered that Kock “in his more active days, had been head of Group 13.” He adds, “The Foreign Office is said to draw Group 13 operatives from the SAS as well as from private security firms,” and that, “It’s duties involve ‘service to the nation.’”
@Durak
thanks for backing up what I posted earlier.I worked there during the 60`s and 70`s on a experiment with the Bristol University particle physics team my job was as a electronics engineer working on high speed logic systems to collect the data from the PM detectors .The accelerator at the time was Nimrod a proton synchrotron.Later the used parts from it build a neutron source. Nothing special. No OSA we just had an ID card. I remember they had a good restaurant. Most of us working there were part of the 60`s counterculture anarchists and political activist and dissidents, I find it a bit of a joke to assume the work there was TOP Secret. At the moment I`m working on “Low Energy Nuclear Fusion” LENR for short maybe I better watch my back otherwise I could be Brown Breaded.
AT LEAST two assassins were responsible for the murder of a British family and French cyclist near Lake Annecy in France last week, investigators believe, while a former head of Scotland Yard’s Flying Squad has said the killings were likely to have been a “political assassination”.
“We know the number of weapons that were used and the kinds that were used,” one investigator said, according to The Sunday Times. “Examination of the grooves on the cartridges and of the system for firing the bullet shows there was more than one killer.”
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Zaid al-Hilli, who has already told police there was no feud between him and his brother, is reported to be inconsolable over the murders.
Zaid’s cousin, Ali al-Hilli, who lives in Melbourne, Australia, told The Sunday Telegraph there was no disagreement between the two brothers. Ali said he had spoken to Zaid since the killings over the phone: “He kept saying: ‘Why, why, why? How did this happen?’ I don’t think Zaid is coping with the pressure. He is really in very deep shock,” he said.
He added that Zaid is likely to look after the two orphaned girls.
“As far as I know, Zaid is intending to go to France to look after the children,” he said. “The young girl is in shock and doesn’t know anybody around her, but she does know Zaid because he lived with the family… He had a room in the house with the family. He knows the family. He knows the girls.” ·
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/annec…0%99-hit-squad
Anders7777, I think you and the others here who know stuff about stuff have done an excellent job of pulling together lots of info. and drawing rational conclusions – it’s made highly informative reading, far more so than if had simply had access to the MSM alone (though some have had intriguing nuggets and they have relatively enormous resources). Just wanted to say, thanks. Keep on!