My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
MKO 10 to 1.
Iran no way / with war any minute, they don’t want to provide an excuse.
Similarly the Brits are in holding mode for a while, so they are covering for Most Sad.
IMO.
Thanks for the confirmation of the Iranian capacity to off the Al-Hilli’s, and Mollier, if they had been doubles or had sold then dud gear or secrets. I agree with you, though, that the most likely route seems to be mossad perhaps with western help for selling sat or nuke tech to Tehran. Or both.
The link you posted to your article 404′s, can you pls repost?
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They could do it, why not?
But on FRENCH SOIL?
I don’t think so.
@THF
Al-Hilli could just want Iran to avoid a disaster like Sichuan experienced in May 2008 when similar NRO satellites caused that devastating earthquake which destroyed much of its nuclear facilities and scientists.
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I am of the opinion that recent massive earthquakes and tsunamis are acts of the silent war, initiated by HAARP rather than NRO satellites? Or clandestine satellites launched from one of the 150 odd countries the USA has bases on?
You don’t suppose someone is bringing down satellites, do you? Maybe with a Smartphone?
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/09/22/meteor-lights-up-sky-over-walsall-97319-31886746/
@ Anders 3:01 comment now on
Re: Space Debris and Satellites, the X-37 landed back on Earth after a year long mission in June. It has the capability to transit the earth in any direction it wants, so a small “push” of a designated satellite will set it off on a downward spiral back to earth ??
It’s due to launch again in October.
The 3:01 comment that Mattthew talkes about seems to be just the type of misinformation that Anders and others have talked about. Mentioning of Israel in this context is intended to drive people away and think we are all nutters.
There are so many satellites and debris that Matthew and “Jackson” don’t know about, so to suggest that this should be an Israeli satellite is just nuts.
Meteors, now available in rainbow colors?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19683687
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion
@ks
mment that Mattthew talkes about seems to be just the type of misinformation that Anders and others have talked about. Mentioning of Israel in this context is intended to drive people away and think we are all nutters
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I resent that uncalled for comment.
Please explain yourself.
WHAT “misinformation” am I guilty of, precisely?
Over to you,
OK KS, sorry, mea culpa, I misread your post!
As for THF, be very VERY careful of this chappie.
You have been warned! 😉
The EU’s Space Code of Conduct is likely to come into focus again after the “meteor showers”:
http://www.e-ir.info/2012/06/26/geopolitical-challenges-to-implementing-the-code-of-conduct-for-outer-space-activities/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17448173
Does the al-Hilli/SSTL connection tie into this?
While one would expect the discussion of such a serious plot to become more focused, it, of course, has become just less so, thanks to all the personal fights and irrelevancies.
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Not really, just to be expected. These blogs usually receive a couple of hundred posts, this one is heading over 6000, eh Nuid?
These little bun fights also serve to flush out the paid shills.
Peter, for example.
I find the stuff about SIlEX
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SILEX?
just too convenient for there not to have been a Anglo-American-Franco plot in killing the Hillis and Sylain Mollier – too convenient, in fact.
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Anyone but Mossad, eh!?
But then don’t they all work for the same “side”, ultimately?
War is immenent, I think these folks have better things to do right now.
Keep it really KISS.
CIA IS MOSSAD
Lets face it.
So is SIS.
Therefore so is SDECE.
Why go to all this charade FAIRYTALE ™ trouble???
No
It’s just BIBI’s loose cannon BALLZ ™ making a point. War must be getting awfully near.
I watched the snivelling Israeli spokesman on NEWSNIGHT last night, and he was arrogantly saying;
“wait and see” – ugly fake smile on his face. Dead eyes.
The SILEX stuff, if true about Saad, makes him look like an Iranian terrorist, committed to Tehran getting weapons-grade plutonium on the cheap and covertly.
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With half a dozen agencies keeping tabs on him?
Pull the other one.
It just backs up what Thomas Reed and Danny Stillman have claimed in The Nuclear Express about what the Iranians are up to.
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What they ate ALL up to.
Including the Brits and your home country.
And the Chinese.
And the Russians.
Et al.
But all this stuff about what SILEX lasers can achieve might just well be a cover for what the NRO’s and ESA’s satellite lasers can achieve in finding exactly what arms sites Iran has which cryosat-2 type satellites can precisely locate – what would make any diclosures by al-Hilli much more justified.
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Please explain.
Al-Hilli could just want Iran to avoid a disaster like Sichuan experienced in May 2008 when similar NRO satellites caused that devastating earthquake which destroyed much of its nuclear facilities and scientists.
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That was HAARP, focussing DOWN. No satellites.
The disclosure of developments occurred at the same time, and the SILEX ones can be just a fallback position for the plotters if the real plot starts getting exposed.
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LOL.
Almost no one is concerned over the murders if al-Hilli and Mollier were in the process to making Iran what almost everyone in the West is paranoid about the prospect of.
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Thanks got outing yourself.
Carry on.
Was the timing to fit in with the evening news broadcasts?
http://gechainejri.blogspace.fr/5797115/Tuerie-de-Chevaline-en-Haute-Savoie-4-morts/
she was scrambled to the scene, ready for the 20.00 news.
Geraldine Chaine “special correspondent” who gets is interviewed on CNN by Dan Rivers yet leaves barely a trace elsewhere. What’s her day job?
She writes in her blog above that Le Dauphine Libere seemed to have been fed the info and then disseminated it further, such that she received it at 17.30 hrs
Was Saad al-Hilli working on Surrey Satellite Technology Limited’s femto-satellite project? These super-small satellites with a mass under 100 grams can be used in swarms to provide earth observations including climate, weather and mapping.
Watching Dan Rivers (CNN….)[who stopped tweeting on Sept 6] report the initial phase of the Chevaline affair:
Everything is sketchy, yet they seem to know the ages of the children. How come???
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtcnnn_alps-shooting-girl-found-under-bodies_news
A man and two women dead in the car…two girls…one…reported to be four years old…another girl,conflicting reports on her age, seven or eight years old…who had been shot three times outside the car…a cyclist,a male in cycling gear..being reported as a local man, a father of three, shot dead just a few yards away…and fifteen cartridges found around the car…
Geraldine Chaine’s footage is on in the background of the video.
So, how did they know the ages of the children so quickly?? Passports?
More smokescreen…how they “would” go about debriefing young girls.
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-we/tuerie-de-chevaline-qu-a-dit-la-fillette-de-4-ans-7512031.html
Adjutant Delphine Josse and lots of fluffy toys and video cameras.
La fillette de 4 ans retrouvée miraculée a déjà été auditionnée à deux reprise. Ses paroles sont recueillies avec beaucoup de prudence, en raison de son âge et de son traumatisme. Comment procéder à des auditions si délicates ?
Recorded on two occasions – allegedly.
@Felix
Re your earlier post, now that I’m back at a keyboard and can type freely…
This is what a holiday let webpage for a property in the same road as BM’s (alleged) looks like:
http://hotedesavoie.free.fr/index.html
Try to spot the differences. (hint: lots)
First of all, thanks again for the link to a genuine holiday let in the same road as Brett Martin’s. Good find!
🙂
It certainly shows up the differences…
From what I can see, the real holiday let has:
a) A phone number to call for info & reservations
b) In fact, TWO phone numbers (land line & mobile?)
c) Prices
d) Online booking form (albeit a webmail form)
What did I miss?
Girl in car 8 hours. Bodily functions. Not mentioned.
It’s a good question. When I first thought about this, some days back, I ended up dropping the issue (no pun intended!) as I thought that if (big if) the story were true, then she’d have had to have soiled herself, and the police would probably have wanted to save her dignity by not mentioning it.
I’m not sure I think the same thing now, though… it would be interesting to know if any journalists asked the question or if the police said anything about it. However, and again only if the story were true, I’m sure it would be a very personal matter and possibly quite embarrassing for Zeena so I’d certainly not want to pry.
Sylvain’s baseball cap in the front of BMW:
Yass & Wenlock29 have magnified photos of the BMW & believe they have found it very likely.
See the latest few entries:-
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061052758&posted=1#post1061052758
Al-Hilli could just want Iran to avoid a disaster like Sichuan experienced in May 2008 when similar NRO satellites caused that devastating earthquake which destroyed much of its nuclear facilities and scientists.
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That was HAARP, focussing DOWN. No satellites.
Is there ANY half baked conspiracy theory you don’t believe in? What haven’t we covered yet? Chemtrails? JFK? Perhaps al Halli discovered the “truth” about one or other of those.
Please explain in your own words, not another cut and paste job, how HAARP causes earthquakes.
@Felix
Re Geraldine Chaine “special correspondent” – another great find!
🙂
Early confirmation of the official announcement of the death of “the little girl” (Zainab). (“Le procureur vient d’annoncer le décès de petite fille.”)
This backs up the source we had earlier which seems to be more of a compilation of media sources into a timeline.
Al-Hilli could just want Iran to avoid a disaster like Sichuan experienced in May 2008 when similar NRO satellites caused that devastating earthquake which destroyed much of its nuclear facilities and scientists.
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That was HAARP, focussing DOWN. No satellites.
Is there ANY half baked conspiracy theory you don’t believe in? What haven’t we covered yet? Chemtrails? JFK? Perhaps al Halli discovered the “truth” about one or other of those.
Please explain in your own words, not another cut and paste job, how HAARP causes earthquakes.
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Do your own research twatters 😉
This article was prepared to provide a summary of the contents of a book written in 1995 which describes an entirely new class of weapons. The weapons and their effects are described in the following pages. The United States Navy and Air Force have joined with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, to build a prototype for a ground based “Star Wars” weapon system located in the remote bush country of Alaska.
The individuals who are demanding answers about HAARP are scattered around the planet. As well as bush dwellers in Alaska, they include: a physician in Finland; a scientist in Holland; an anti-nuclear protester in Australia; independent physicists in the United States; a grandmother in Canada, and countless others.
Unlike the protests of the 1960s the objections to HAARP have been registered using the tools of the 1990s. From the Internet, fax machines, syndicated talk radio and a number of alternative print mediums the word is getting out and people are waking up to this new intrusion by an over zealous United States government.
The research team put together to gather the materials which eventually found their way into the book never held a formal meeting, never formed a formal organization. Each person acted like a node on a planetary info-spirit-net with one goal held by all — to keep this controversial new science in the public eye. The result of the team’s effort was a book which describes the science and the political ramifications of this technology.
That book, Angels Don’t Play this HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology, has 230 pages. This article will only give the highlights. Despite the amount of research (350 footnoted sources), at its heart it is a story about ordinary people who took on an extraordinary challenge in bringing their research forward.
HAARP Boils the Upper Atmosphere
HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an “ionospheric heater.” (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth’s upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)
Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything — living and dead.
HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly — HAARP aims to learn how to “exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes.” Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.
Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.
” … at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will ‘runaway’ until the next limiting factor is reached.”
If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based “Star Wars” technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska’s North Slope natural gas.
Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas’ physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.
The military says the HAARP system could:
Give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986)
Replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology
Be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system
Provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military’s own communications systems working
Provide a wide area earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements
Be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area
Be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete
The above abilities seem like a good idea to all who believe in sound national defense, and to those concerned about cost-cutting. However, the possible uses which the HAARP records do not explain, and which can only be found in Air Force, Army, Navy and other federal agency records, are alarming. Moreover, effects from the reckless use of these power levels in our natural shield — the ionosphere — could be cataclysmic according to some scientists.
Two Alaskans put it bluntly. A founder of the NO HAARP movement, Clare Zickuhr, says “The military is going to give the ionosphere a big kick and see what happens.”
The military failed to tell the public that they do not know what exactly will happen, but a Penn State science article brags about that uncertainty. Macho science? The HAARP project uses the largest energy levels yet played with by what Begich and Manning call “the big boys with their new toys.” HAARP is an experiment in the sky, and experiments are done to find out something not already known. Independent scientists told Begich and Manning that a HAARP-type “skybuster” with its unforeseen effects could be an act of global vandalism.
HAARP History
The patents described below were the package of ideas which were originally controlled by ARCO Power Technologies Incorporated (APTI), a subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Company, one of the biggest oil companies in the world. APTI was the contractor that built the HAARP facility. ARCO sold this subsidiary, the patents and the second phase construction contract to E-Systems in June 1994.
E-Systems is one of the biggest intelligence contractors in the world — doing work for the CIA, defense intelligence organizations and others. $1.8 billion of their annual sales are to these organizations, with $800 million for black projects — projects so secret that even the United States Congress isn’t told how the money is being spent.
E-Systems was bought out by Raytheon, which is one of the largest defense contractors in the world. In 1994 Raytheon was listed as number forty-two on the Fortune 500 list of companies. Raytheon has thousands of patents, some of which will be valuable in the HAARP project. The twelve patents below are the backbone of the HAARP project, and are now buried among the thousands of others held in the name of Raytheon. Bernard J. Eastlund’s U.S. Patent # 4,686,605, “Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth’s Atmosphere, Ionosphere; and/or Magnetosphere,” was sealed for a year under a government Secrecy Order.
The Eastlund ionospheric heater was different; the radio frequency (RF) radiation was concentrated and focused to a point in the ionosphere. This difference throws an unprecedented amount of energy into the ionosphere. The Eastlund device would allow a concentration of one watt per cubic centimeter, compared to others only able to deliver about one millionth of one watt.
This huge difference could lift and change the ionosphere in the ways necessary to create futuristic effects described in the patent. According to the patent, the work of Nikola Tesla in the early 1900’s formed the basis of the research.
What would this technology be worth to ARCO, the owner of the patents? They could make enormous profits by beaming electrical power from a powerhouse in the gas fields to the consumer without wires.
For a time, HAARP researchers could not prove that this was one of the intended uses for HAARP. In April, 1995, however, Begich found other patents, connected with a “key personnel” list for APTI. Some of these new APTI patents were indeed a wireless system for sending electrical power. Eastlund’s patent said the technology can confuse or completely disrupt airplanes’ and missiles’ sophisticated guidance systems. Further, this ability to spray large areas of Earth with electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies, and to control changes in those waves, makes it possible to knock out communications on land or sea as well as in the air.
The patent said:
“Thus, this invention provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the Earth’s atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes… ”
“…it is possible not only to interfere with third party communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world’s communications are disrupted. Put another way, what is used to disrupt another’s communications can be employed by one knowledgeable of this invention as a communication network at the same time.”
“… large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction.”
“Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.
… molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc., concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased.”
@Kempe
Just a request…
Could you please be a little less inflammatory in the tone of your questions?
Like, for example you could ask “why do you guys think it was an Israeli satellite, seems unlikely to me”, or “how does HAARP work, it sounds very far-fetched to me”.
If you’re serious, which I think you are.
You might get a better response…
I know I’m a fine one to talk after my blow-ups yesterday, but…
🙂
@Kempe
Just a request…
Could you please be a little less inflammatory in the tone of your questions?
Like, for example you could ask “why do you guys think it was an Israeli satellite, seems unlikely to me”, or “how does HAARP work, it sounds very far-fetched to me”.
If you’re serious, which I think you are.
You might get a better response…
I know I’m a fine one to talk after my blow-ups yesterday, but…
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Begich found eleven other APTI Patents. They told how to make “Nuclear-sized Explosions without Radiation,” Power-beaming systems, over-the-horizon radar, detection systems for missiles carrying nuclear warheads, electromagnetic pulses previously produced by thermonuclear weapons and other Star-Wars tricks. This cluster of patents underlay the HAARP weapon system.
Related research by Begich and Manning uncovered bizarre schemes. For example, Air Force documents revealed that a system had been developed for manipulating and disturbing human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation (the stuff of HAARP) over large geographical areas. The most telling material about this technology came from writings of Zbigniew Brzezinski (former National Security Advisory to U.S. President Carter) and J.F. MacDonald (science advisor to U.S. President Johnson and a professor of Geophysics at UCLA), as they wrote about use of power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental warfare. The documents showed how these effects might be caused, and the negative effects on human heath and thinking.
The mental-disruption possibilities for HAARP are the most disturbing. More than 40 pages of the book, with dozens of footnotes, chronicle the work of Harvard professors, military planners and scientists as they plan and test this use of the electromagnetic technology. For example, one of the papers describing this use was from the International Red Cross in Geneva. It even gave the frequency ranges where these effects could occur — the same ranges which HAARP is capable of broadcasting.
The following statement was made more than twenty-five years ago in a book by Brzezinski which he wrote while a professor at Columbia University:
“Political strategists are tempted to exploit research on the brain and human behavior. Geophysicist Gordon J.F. MacDonald, a specialist in problems of warfare, says accurately-timed, artificially-excited electronic strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth … in this way one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period”
” … no matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages, to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades.”
In 1966, MacDonald was a member of the President’s Science Advisory Committee and later a member of the President’s Council on Environmental Quality. He published papers on the use of environmental control technologies for military purposes. The most profound comment he made as a geophysicist was, “the key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy.” While yesterday’s geophysicists predicted today’s advances, are HAARP program managers delivering on the vision?
The geophysicists recognized that adding energy to the environmental soup could have large effects. However, humankind has already added substantial amounts of electromagnetic energy into our environment without understanding what might constitute critical mass. The book by Begich and Manning raises questions:
Have these additions been without effect, or is there a cumulative amount beyond which irreparable damage can be done?
Is HAARP another step in a journey from which we cannot turn back?
Are we about to embark on another energy experiment which unleashes another set of demons from Pandora’s box?
As early as 1970, Zbigniew Brzezinski predicted a “more controlled and directed society” would gradually appear, linked to technology. This society would be dominated by an elite group which impresses voters by allegedly superior scientific know-how. Angels Don’t Play This HAARP further quotes Brzezinski:
“Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Technical and scientific momentum would then feed on the situation it exploits,” Brzezinski predicted.
His forecasts proved accurate. Today, a number of new tools for the “elite” are emerging, and the temptation to use them increases steadily. The policies to permit the tools to be used are already in place. How could the United States be changed, bit by bit, into the predicted highly-controlled technosociety? Among the “steppingstones” Brzezinski expected were persisting social crises and use of the mass media to gain the public’s confidence.
In another document prepared by the government, the U.S. Air Force claims: “The potential applications of artificial electromagnetic fields are wide-ranging and can be used in many military or quasi-military situations… Some of these potential uses include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches of security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare. In all of these cases the EM (electromagnetic) systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual distortion or disorientation. In addition, the ability of individuals to function could be degraded to such a point that they would be combat ineffective. Another advantage of electromagnetic systems is that they can provide coverage over large areas with a single system. They are silent and countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop… One last area where electromagnetic radiation may prove of some value is in enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous phenomena.”
Do these comments point to uses already somewhat developed? The author of the government report refers to an earlier Air Force document about the uses of radio frequency radiation in combat situations. (Here Begich and Manning note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world.)
The United States Congressional record deals with the use of HAARP for penetrating the earth with signals bounced off of the ionosphere. These signals are used to look inside the planet to a depth of many kilometers in order to locate underground munitions, minerals and tunnels. The U.S. Senate set aside $15 million dollars in 1996 to develop this ability alone — earth-penetrating-tomography. The problem is that the frequency needed for earth-penetrating radiation is within the frequency range most cited for disruption of human mental functions. It may also have profound effects on migration patterns of fish and wild animals which rely on an undisturbed energy field to find their routes.
As if electromagnetic pulses in the sky and mental disruption were not enough, T. Eastlund bragged that the super-powerful ionospheric heater could control weather.
Begich and Manning brought to light government documents indicating that the military has weather-control technology. When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres. If one government experiments with the world’s weather patterns, what is done in one place will impact everyone else on the planet. Angels Don’t Play This HAARP explains a principle behind some of Nikola Tesla’s inventions — resonance — which affect planetary systems.
@Straw
Thanks for the link – very interesting theory…
@Anders
I can’t follow the twists and turns of the motive line you presented earlier in response to Trowbridge. I have the same problems in complex spy films, after about 5 twists I get lost…
So… could you please try and dumb it down for me just one notch?
I can get as far as (in very simple terms):
1. SAH & BM were selling shit to Iran, so Mossad offed them
2. SAH & BM were set up by MI6/CIA to sell fake shit to Iran, so Iran offed them
3. SAH knew something about spy satellites he sold to Iran so Mossad offed him (but then how does BM fit in?)
Now I get a bit sketchy…
4. SAH was going to warn Iran about something to do with satellites (the location of their nuclear bunkers/weapons?) so Mossad offed him(?)
5. Another possiblity?
Or finally
6. SAH & BM’s lives were at high risk from Iran (due to eg scenario 2 above) so MI6/SEDCE ran a complex operation to fake their deaths and whisk them off to new identities and safety – to be joined by their children later. This would account for how SAH (reportedly) knew his life was in danger, and the rapid arrangement of the trip.
Help!
🙂
Looking back at news in the past year, this came up:
http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/no-visible-evidence-of-explosion-at-esfahan-nuclear-site-adjacent-facility-/
Zirconium mentioned.
@Straw – thanks a million! Reposting the text of the post here for anyone who’s interested…
In Yass’s blown up photo. You can definitely make out a body (possibly SAH) in the drivers seat. If you follow where the dashboard ends from where Al-Hilli is sitting across to the passenger side, there doesn’t look to be enough space & depth between the end of the dashboard & the passenger seat to suggest it’s empty. I can also make out small creases of a beige coloured T Shirt. (I know the car’s interior is a similar beige colour but think that’s just an unfortunate coincidence…for my theory!!).
If that is SM’s beige cap on the dashboard, isn’t it possible that he took it off & placed it there while he chatted to SAH? Given that etiquette is a french word, I don’t think it’s a stretch to think that people still take their hats/caps off when entering someone else’s home/office/car.
I’m going to throw out there & say that SAH & SM were both killed as they sat in the car. The reason I believe that this is what really happened is because:
1) It’s the only theory that has was not being considered by the investigators. From the outset SM was ignored as he was considered just an unlucky passing bystander. It took 10 days until that the investigation tentatively suggested that SM may have been the initial target but nothing more but by this time he story had largely fallen off the MSM radar.
2) The lack of blood in front of the BMW where BM said he found SM.
As I said earlier if the press had found out that a British shiite Iraqi was found dead in the same car as a Frenchman who worked at a Nuclear facility in a secluded location then the ramifications would be huge for both governments.
BM’s story is propaganda. To plant the idea in people’s minds that SM & SAH did not know each other & were not meeting at a rendezvous point which would’ve been impossible for the investigators to deny if they’d been found dead in the same car.
From Wenlock29 at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061052758&posted=1#post1061052758
Personally I can’t quite make out the details in the grainy enlargement but I think this one’s got legs.
People have already commented that it’s odd, what with BM & SM being in the same cycle club n’all, that they didn’t at least go “hey there” when SM supposedly overtook BM…
@ferret I can answer all of the above but THF needs to speak first.
I’ve got him by the BALLZ ™ and I haven’t even started squeezing yet. 🙂
Over to THF. 🙂
November 28, 2011 could be a key date. Here’s a different story, from recent news, which could have something to do with that story, and this one:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/17/terrorists-embedded-in-un-nuclear-watchdog-may-be-behind-power-line-explosion-iran/
Here’s another link to the article, Ferret:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/content.php?186-How-the-Pentagon-Broke-the-Deadlock-over-the-START-Treaty-Iran-s-Nuclear-Ambitions-at-John-Wheeler-s-Expense
As for your comments, Anders, I assume that you are warning me rather than other posters to be careful, but if I am the problem to be worried about, so be it.
Reminds me of a poster, one jamtjim, warning posters on Sweden’s The Local that I am a fraud, liar, cheat, and welcher.
As for the NRO’s satellites, they had been using its Misty satellites to exploit man-made crevices in the earth’s surface, especially qanats throughout Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan, to cause quakes like the ones in Iran during the first and second Gulf Wars.
It was using them, thanks to Danny Stillman’s hunch that they could achieve such a result, which got former SoD Robert Gates complimenting him thus on the back on the dustcover of The Nuclear Express:
“(Stillman’s)ability to adapt the latest advances in science to solve unmanageable problems and to analyze foreign techologies made him an invaluable asset to the Intelligence Community.”
The drying out, and shaking of the qanats brought about collapses of many Iranian underground facilities – leading them to be used in causing the collapse of the underground facilities that the Chinese had built for their nuclear program
in Sichuan in May 2008.
It was my series of articles on the whole proces on cryptome, org. which got the CIA trying to kill me yet again, once that vile Leon Panetta became DCI.
Ultimately, the Iranians and the Chinese learned that they must make their underground facilities as difficult as possible to discover, and protect them against any kind of airborne attack – what made the Misty satellities increasingly incapable of doing, and put the greatest priority by Washington to find out where they are so that bunker busters and the like can take them out.
That’s where the cryosat-2s and the like come in. They can determine the thickness of not only ice but also water, and soil, leaving what remains as cavites of air.
When used over Iran and China, they can determine what should be hit, and Tehran and Beijing must be busting their butts, trying to prevent new surgical strikes of their most developed underground facilities from being taken out.
Little wonder that the Pentagon went ballistic when the ESA talked about these satellities’ capabilities, and had al-Hilli and Mollier murdered when they tried to help them out.
I personally think that the RAFP did it, but it could be the Mossad.
Meir Dagan’s Mossad had to do the necessary killings when it came to important people like Jurgen Möllemann, Stephen Hilder, Dr. David Kelly, and Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh, but now the shoe is on the other feet, with NSA’s Secret Collection Service, and MI6 having to do the dirty work in the hope of preventing Israel from hitting Iran with a first strike.
If that is SM’s beige cap on the dashboard, isn’t it possible that he took it off & placed it there while he chatted to SAH? Given that etiquette is a french word, I don’t think it’s a stretch to think that people still take their hats/caps off when entering someone else’s home/office/car.
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Nothing to do with French etiquette.
If you’ve just beasted up a long CLIMBE like old Sylvain did, you will be sweating rivers, in your eyes, back wet with sweat, soaking.
I’m an MTBiker, so I know. Road bikes a bit easier, but not much.
First thing I’d do if I was Sylvain sitting next to SAH is take off my cycling cap, put it on the dash, and ask SAH to turn the a/c to the max, engine running, then I’d point the vents at my face.