The Al-Hilli Conundrum 6629


My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.

Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.

In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.

My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?

Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:

From Janesmith101

All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police

Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.

Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.

What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?

As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.

http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html

The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.

Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.

An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.

I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.

I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.


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6,629 thoughts on “The Al-Hilli Conundrum

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  • phil t

    Who did it?
    Prince harry … in order to earn his ‘black wings’ as a british state establishment ‘apache’ chopper mass killer … he first had to do his ‘ritual’ of flashing his arse cock and balls in a las vegas hotel …then massacre a ‘rag head’ (to use his own words) muslim family in cold blood … and then he could go on to kill lots more while directing the killing systems of an apache chopper in afghanistan, etc

  • kathy

    Well, William and Kate were in a holiday villa just about 18 miles from the massacre and where she was photographed topless!

  • James

    WHOA !

    This is not mine !!!! (I am James, the one that has issues with Anders, so now I am wondering “WHAT THE F*** is goning on here)

    Can eveyone “interested” just put their “who did it” and a “Why”…
    and as briefly as possible, then we have something to compare.

    Mine.

    Al Hilli was the lure(the false flagger)
    The Frenchman, the naughty fish.
    The exRAF, the “what came to be” the sorter outer.

    The plan… Le Monde posts “Frenchman Killed In Wee Small Village

  • anders7777

    Well, William and Kate were in a holiday villa just about 18 miles from the massacre and where she was photographed topless!

    =====
    Yes and she has a pair of gigantic tits too! William and Harry! 🙂

  • kathy

    @Anders

    Yeah but really what’s with all the naked royal flesh going on. Are they trying to pretend they are human?

  • phil t

    Metaphor … and … literalism …
    … prince harry as a trained apache helicopter ‘weapons officer’ is a trained mass killer – matter of fact

  • phil t

    Spot the difference …
    Apache helicopter weapons officer …
    & guy who says/decides ‘enough is enough’ on the scene of a ‘professional killing’

  • anders7777

    @Anders

    Yeah but really what’s with all the naked royal flesh going on. Are they trying to pretend they are human?

    =====
    I think so Kathy. They are desperate to keep all the plates spinning. Fingers crossed, not long to go now! 🙂

  • Blue_Bear

    anders7777

    25 Sep, 2012 – 8:45 pm

    Anders, I think I like you and your posts. But statements like that are poor imo. I’d say that most people here would make the logical connection between the apparent black-out and a D-notice/lack of CCTV/real investigation etc. But to suggest that it’s 100% nailed-on could be off-putting to many others. Just sayin’…

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    Fine. Experience again. You had the same problem thinking a 7,000 post thread here is normal British public exuberance. It isn’t.

    Hey-Ho! 🙂

    ……………….

    I’m not saying I don’t believe it. The proof is in the pudding as you say. And the pudding is, erm, quiet.

    Until I come up with a way of finding out who was definitely first and second on the scene after RAF-man then I’m stuck.

  • James

    Wil, Harry, !!!

    Fark ! Anders you are right. (sadly) SLIDERS.
    They are just sending rubbish.

    No one is getting this !
    Where was the cash coming from ?????

  • phil t

    British /

    Brutish

    But the ‘true nation’ true human ‘cosmopolitans’ wanted to live inwas not one in which the trained ‘mass killer’ harry waz …

  • anders7777

    Until I come up with a way of finding out who was definitely first and second on the scene after RAF-man then I’m stuck.

    =====
    Like the Blues, tee-hee!

    I hear ya.

    M

  • phil t

    Who did it?
    1. Mossad (anders,etc)
    2. Iran (katie and other ‘racists’)
    3. Prince harry (phil t and othef lunatics)
    4. The family of the victims (and other ‘possessive individualistic materialistz)
    5. Etc

  • Blue_Bear

    Ooh, now you’ve gone too far Anders 🙂

    But I agree that there’s nothing to suggest there’s not at least massive pressure on the papers to keep quiet and I certainly don’t buy the lack of public interest argument.

    Last night a Sun editor was on FiveLive blabbing on about how proud he was that they’d dedicated extra hours of work to “Pleb-gate”.

  • phil t

    Anders
    First on scene was killsr(s)
    2. Ex-raf guy? / whoever else was ‘programmed’ to folllow up 1.
    3. Some dumb fuck french cop who – for example – did not search rear/fear back area of.car.for….

  • phil t

    Telling tales
    Once upon a time /
    There once waz a time
    When
    ****
    Blamed
    ****
    Mossad … for more or less everything …
    Now,asamattteroffact, i was not a ‘zionist stooge’ but …

  • phil t

    Anders7777
    Has given a lot of her/his self to
    5000 to.6000
    Threads
    Of
    Words.wrth o’
    And the reward he/she gets is …?

  • phil t

    Oh i seem all alone on this site … i had better bugger off so you can continue to **** each other off and …

  • Ruby

    Whodunnit, I’ll stick with the brother having some major involvement, either with a hitman, or setting him up so some secret service organisation got him.
    Must be the best news possible when you are in dispute over a will and the other party is conveniently killed.

  • tony roma

    ruby eyes agree wid yer dare.
    der brudder is gilty as sin for starter for 10 he is a musslamic.
    he is brown color
    he has shifty eyes
    and eye saw a foto and his hand looks plastic i bets yar any monies under dat plastic hand is a hook.
    in der old days bank robbers war stripey vests and black lone ranger masks.
    and black tight trusers so wese new dar was bad guys.
    der problam wid der muslamics is day usin plastic hands to hide dare hooks
    we need der sas to check all dese peeople for plastic hands.
    der brudder done it i saw der house in spain dat day argueyd over it was nice good price as well 25 thousand euros i wood kill me granny for 50 quid but she is alweady dead
    mi6,der raf and mossad raputato has been destroyed by der muslamics on dis sight
    ruby eye tink der 2 of us cud bust der case wide closed wid are combined intelgence
    we cud be like der tv show hart to hart i wood be der man of corse

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