The Al-Hilli Conundrum 6629


My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.

Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.

In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.

My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?

Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:

From Janesmith101

All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police

Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.

Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.

What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?

As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.

http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html

The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.

Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.

An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.

I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.

I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.


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  • Ferret

    Thanks Dopey. I’ve just posted a long analysis of the timelines to show that SAH *could* have helped Saddam with his nuclear programme but unfortunately it’s got stuck in the spam filter. Never mind. Chance for an early night, for a change! Speak to you tomorrow.

  • Kempe

    For THIS murdered family

    Family photos shown
    CCTV footage released
    Crimewatch reconstruction
    A reward offered

    Family photos can only be shown if the family chooses to release them. The police also had a suspect so releasing CCTV footage of him makes sense, also the crime was committed in the UK. There would be little point in running a Crimewatch reconstruction or even offering a reward in the UK over a crime that occurred in France. I’ve no idea if French TV have their own version of Crimewatch but maybe if the investigation stalls, which it well may have done, they will cover it.

  • dopey

    @ james
    One cousin in Iraq is

    Balsam Hilli Xanthis.

    ………….
    Interesting. I came across a Balsam Hilli myself yesterday. ..but there’s a company called Balsam Hill and Google just threw up a load of stuff for that.

  • dopey

    I think these are her kids. 192.com showed for Haydar a Balsam Jilli at the same address.

    Wasn’t the sectioned violent son of grannie also called Haydar?

  • James

    Dopey…

    Just a “snapshot” of what I have found.

    All the way up to (year ending) 2006 he’s not having a great time.
    In 07, 08 and 09 he’s doing “alright”.

    2010 isn’t a fab year…then he starts at “SST L”. (Nov 2010).
    2011 I haven’t a clue about. Or 2012 until *this* happens.

    So, what was he doing up till 2006 as it doesn’t look like he was an active (“60 quid an hour”) longterm contactor.

    Where was he in 07, 08 and 09 ?
    …and what experience di he then have to “get in with” the satellite boyz and girls ?

    Interestingly if you can link him into Shaun Kenyon at “the Co”, then you might have something.
    Check out the bottom para of this link.
    They do alot of work “in their own time”.

    http://www.sstl.co.uk/Divisions/Earth-Observation—Science/Science—Exploration/STRaND-nanosatellite/SSTL-Cubesat-Android-FINT-25oct11

  • James

    Dopey

    Haydor Thaher.

    Son of Suhaila Al Allaf, so the brother of Iqbal Al Hilli.
    Or if you like (on the co records) Ikbal Al Saffar.

    How many last names for a mother, brother daughter can there be !!!

  • dopey

    @ james

    well we know one thing he was doing in 2007 – having sex. One of his daughter’s was born then or a year later 🙂

  • anders7777

    Anders

    I am bitter too and ashamed to be British. The huge anti-war march really cheered me up and I thought they couldn’t possibly ignore that. That was a joke! At least the anti-war march gave me some faith in the British people which was good but it is a sham democracy. But put yourself in his position feeling humiliated and frustrated while the arrogant colonial barbarians destroyed his wonderful country. We don’t know the half of it. Remember his neighbour said that he would tell them about the atrocities committed by Americans that they did’nt know about but when they checked, it was true.

    =====
    Spot on Kathy, I couldn’t agree more. Blair and Bush simply MUST be prosecuted for War Crimes.

  • James

    Dopey..

    Well he was clearly happy and relaxed then !

    Re “Balsam Hashim al-Hilli”, I have Balsam Hilli Xanthis.
    Could that be one and the same.
    Jeez knows with everyone in the damn place having the same name(s) !

  • anders7777

    I’ve sent it to British Gas, the Co-Op and Horse & Hound too, just to be on the safe side.

    =====
    I’ve done Men Only, Reader’s Wives and the Moonies.

  • James

    “Spot on Kathy, I couldn’t agree more. Blair and Bush simply MUST be prosecuted for War Crimes”.

    But Bush will claim he was insane.

    “We’re gonna go to war”…then hits a golf ball !!!!!!!!!!

    Farking madman.

  • James

    That’s the fella.

    I ma trying to link Al Hilli to those co’s in those “better” years.
    Then (or rather…”or”) try and link him to “that” Kenyon team.

    Or actually some bloody team there !

  • Roger

    @Felix

    >Nobody has so far commented upon the car park at Le Martinet.
    >Longitude:
    >6° 13′ 27.28″ E
    >Latitude:
    >45° 43′ 43.85″ N

    I’m with you on that as the location. If you look at that location on Google Maps, about 40m north of that exact spot you can make out a car parked there, which could tally with BM’s suggestion that cars are frequently parked there.

  • Rickki Tarr

    I dont know who this guy is but it was posted on twitter????

    حسن العبادي ‏@HassanFourteen

    @AraBalaghi Dr. Ali Al-Hilli, continuing the theme of Tawheed Insha’Allah.

  • dopey

    Sorry if this has already been posted. Another company from the early 1990’s for Zaid Al Hilli.

    T.F.T.C. Limited..dissolved.

    He’s listed as a director, along with a Yahya Mirjan.

    Like Saad, Zaid seems to have dropped the “Al” part of his name too in his earlier days.

    http://www.whorunsit.org/companies/02377254

  • bluebird

    Balsam Al-Hilli-Xanthis said in 2005 interview that she lived 35 years in exile.
    That means that they emigrated in 1970 and that funds my theory that the family were members of an-naif political branch. An-naif (former iraqi prime minister) was assassinated in london in the 1980tees.

    On the same London address where balsam is registered, there is also a Haydar Xanthis registered. Could that be the mentally ill Haydar?

    The national iraqi alliance is the shia party that is a union of 20+ smaller shia parties. One of those parties is Hezbollah!!!!!
    Could the al-hillies have real links to Hezbollah?

    It is a matter of fact that israel treats Hezbollah as a terror organisation and that they already killed many Hezbollah members in many parts of this world.
    Hezbollah is said to have links to al-qaida in France.
    Hezbollah is supported and funded by iran and syria (assad).

  • bluebird

    It gets exciting.

    In the house of george xanthis in london that he shares with balsam al-hilli xanthis lives also a family with the surname ‘Martin’. Whats the surname of raf man ?

    Perhaps coincidence.
    George xanthis is obviously very rich:
    http://www.xanthis.com.gr/
    Apparently that is his company. Obviously he could secretly ship some stuff around the world if he wanted to.

  • Orph3us

    Sorry @Blue Bear I used to work at the beeb and your complaint will go nowhere unless it’s aimed at an individual in the news team. However it will end up in the daily report of complaints, that’s read by anybody with a bit of time on their hands and wants a good laugh in the organisation. It’s a great Intranet site, you wouldn’t believe what people complain about.

  • bluebird

    More exciting.
    George xanthis has/had some companies in london as well.

    http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/912527150

    His brother spyros is amongst other businesses in the oil business and head of the greek-chinese economic relations.

    http://gr.linkedin.com/pub/spyros-xanthis/41/12a/3a1

    Balsam obviously had a good marriage. Usually the rich marry rich women or else she must have been extremely beautiful.

    That is likely the reason that she could make it into the shia party as a woman for the parliament elections: as an exile woman: big money!

  • bluebird

    Hussein al-hilli:

    Officer trainee at british army, himalaya expedition, marathon runner.
    Rings to me like MI6.

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