My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
@ Dopey 28 Sep, 2012 – 5:27 pm
That article proved quite useful. Using the quote from the ad for the motorcyle, I found the actual ad
{http://archive.ukbike.com/suzuki-gs-yi212o440.aspx} which mentions Esher as his residence.
Using the phone number as a search term, though, I found an ad referring to Oxted
{http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SSG5pqRn9zcJ:www.magnet-search.co.uk/ercol-light+%2207043529206%22&cd=12}
“2003 surveillance that they were watching Saad”
Dopey said.
How many Iraqi’s are in the UK ?
If he “was”, why him ? He wasn’t at SSTL then !
That is “if” he was being watched (or rather looked at).
Ok, Gary Aked said he had “other” Co’s.
I have looked. And I have really gone through it.
So where are these Co’s ?
The house for instance.
Who owns that ?
Why did he go “contracting” …and not do very well ?
But then (Nov 2010) he did do well !
…and (I think it was Straw who firs entioned this) was he “divorced”).
Well postman “kinda” thought he was…in the 3 yearshe knew him !!!
No Bilbo that was C&P, sarcasm cannot beat it !
If only you could do that for a seatbelt or any other number of hanging questions….
Which other questions Bilbo, fire away ?
Last satellite launched by SSTL before the al-Hilli affair:
http://www.sstl.co.uk/news-and-events?story=2049
I don’t know what else is there, but Cambridge, Ontario was home to Gary Peters, international man of mystery, when the Libya/Saadi scandal broke.
@ peter
That’s an 070 “follow me” number and not his actual mobile number. It’s a virtual number.
CMON people (tha exc Mad Katie and Ken n’ Barbie).
Roll the dice !
If you had a house, that wasn’t your house, but was your house (or even half your house) and you had a skill, that was a skill…and you didn’t have kids…what would yu do ????
Why change the locks ???
Why do that ! Yo lived there how long !!!!
Oh…and for Mad Katie’s benefit, it as a source from BBC Radio Four.
How would the Daily Mail know 6 people attended the marriage in Oatlands Drive? A copy of the cert. would indicated two witnesses. (that will be approx GBP 10 please but might set off alarm bells at Vauxhall…)
For the record
Jack Saltman moved within Claygate in 2007 to back onto the Hillis. Old address
Morwenna The Causeway
Claygate KT10 0NE
Sold 18.5.2007 GBP730,000
New address 3 Oaken Drive KT10 0DL Sold £549,950 on 16/08/2007
@ james
28 Sep, 2012 – 6:16 pm
James are you on speed today or something?
Why change the locks? You had lodgers, and they’ve moved out, you’ve been burgled, you’ve lost your keys, your wife’s left you, your brother has a set of keys and you’ve fallen out, someone else has a set and you don’t want them to get into your house, you have a faulty lock needs replacing….
Yes Dopey, plus the man had some important papers he was worried about .
Are man Jack…
The TV producer ! (want me to show you!)
And his wife….the pharmacist
amongst others I get ‘saad al-hilli spy’
Now you would think that Mariylyn and Ikbal ould hve chatted !
“amongst others I get ‘saad al-hilli spy”
Nearly….I would say, caught up with the “wrong sort”.
James can you sh!t or get off the pot…. what are you getting at lol?
So why not so many friends in the area ???
The cheky cirppy chappie from Bag a dad !
OK Dopey….
He wasn’t there !
Wasn’t where? Living at Claygate?
Now I live “oveseas”….and I have always lived oveeas.
Before I lived overseas elsewhere.
And “elsewere” was Saad !
Nah… not Claygate.
…that’s why the postman makes sense.
And not Londonshire.
…that’s why the books don’t make sense.
There is one thing you have to KNOW about DXB (sorry, a pilot).
DXB is always DXB.
Everyone mixes…but not really.
And I thik I have a link to the companies !
Thank God Ihave VPN’s !
Felix, It said that on Friends Reunited and also that his new 7 month old daughter had him wrapped around her little finger already (so all must have been written 7 years ago)
I didnt read it myself I read either hear or on David Icke very early on. You had to be a member to see it. But I think they said it had been taken down since.
Was this a clumsy, bungled extraction, attempted by a private contractor, which then went terribly wrong? Even the wealthy and powerful make hiring mistakes from time to time.
Think DXB
http://vimeo.com/48947088
Then thinl “Bluebird’s posts”.
Then hink…and know….who hags ot in DXB ?
Then think…lets look at DXB “Co’s”. I have !
Hence… I am behind the curve.
@ strawberry
His friends reunited page was still there when I looked a week or so ago. I posted what he said on there on here.
Who hangs out in DXB ?
Bin Laden did. So did the CIA.o did all private crews that use to fly them (I know… I was there !).
So did the contractors….
And so did “the Hez”
…and so did “mossad”.
And the “Lebo’s”.
So did the people that I think did a lot of “aero” stuff.
Saad’s ‘other’ companies, you are aware of Surrey Nanosystems Ltd?
But not one of his
New thread on the subject, people. Maybe begin to post there, instead? This anaconda is the longest ever!
I dnow believe it was
should read…. “I do belive it was”