My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
This guy tells it like it is…cuts through the crap..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6QCLCk0Tw
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Indeed. I’m sure there will be many more.
lonely not lobely
@ james
I’ve been on it for weeks…she’s never replied ! Doh !
………..
If you sent the usual “hi sexy how r u” then I’m not surprised.
@james
T’is a bugger as they won’t even allow me to use the 183 days rule.
Still, I like supporting mental illness.
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You don’t support it, you define it.
Dopey.
I had no idea. Purely made up…but I also looked when you questioned it.
I am going to make more up…and see if they’re real !!!!
Wibbly Wobbly Web dot ImOnStandByAreYouFreeLaterAndDoYouKnowAnythingAboutLanciaFulviaFuelLinesOnlyMineHasBroke dot com
That should do the trick !
@filthy
Re james but was it written by gogol the ukrainian or gogol the great russian author
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Try googolplex. 🙂
@mike
Suck it up baby! 🙂
Bipolar…
“You don’t support it, you define it”.
So I am paying for you !
Everytime I land on “The Island” ….I hate it.
Lobely Spooks !
I like that. Is that a drunk undergradute looking for a position !
Top marks ! (I know you corrected it, but I will ignore the correction ! The mistake t’is better)
Anders…
Weird…and your unfunny !
Bet they love you down at your “battle cruiser” !
Mr No Laughs !!!!
I would have even hired you Anders. But you were sloppy. 😉
Speaking of lobely spooks..
This Al Hilli looks like perfect spook material.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/hussain-al-hilli/43/a43/ba1?trk=pub-pbmap
Mike…
He coul;d have been “the second shooter” !
If he’s “sloppy” !
I haven’t discounted the BAE angle. I just can’t be bothered to try any digging. Been there, done it on a good few huge corporates in the past. You find enough to know things are murky as hell, but not enough to prove you’re right….and it drives you round the twist.
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Fair enough. I am ex airline myself, know the score ref BOING v SCAREBUS
isn’t it strange all the Airbus crashes? 😉
‘Specially the last one leaving SA TO
FRANCAIS!!! 😉 😉 😉
🙂
Dopey !
Just clicked on that link.
WHOA !!!! …..and “that smile” !!!!!!
@mike
I would have even hired you Anders. But you were sloppy.
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Ya think?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-alps-shooting-islamic-rants-1326315
But you know, many of the people who comment here would also say, “Screw the Monarchy, screw the USA/NATO/Israel, etc. This or that was an inside job, we hate Blair/Hague/Straw et al, we hate what they are doing in Iraq or wherever…” So do millions, on and off the web. That’s an average bus stop conversation, or a chat with the tea lady (do tea ladies exist any more?). Al-Hilli posted in chat-rooms, allegedly. So what? Perhaps he posted on this blog, who knows? Is the suggestion that MOSSAD will assassinate everyone who posts anti-Israel material on the web? Or is the suggestion that he was involved in some terrorist-related activity?
“Saad was incredibly sad that his home city was bombed,”
Indeed.
@mike
I would have even hired you Anders. But you were sloppy.
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Ya think?
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Thinks the Anders(tm) shtick is real?
Or not?
I’m running rings around the Legoland BOYZ, and you all know it.
Face facts BOYZ, you’re not ver good.
Titter.
That smiley Al Hilli’s Moala Property Ltd doesn;t exist on Companies House either 😉
Closetst to it is a Moala Properties Ltd ….in New Zealand.
They certainly like their NZ connectios this lot.
http://scotlandyard.blogspot.com/ has some interesting comments about cellphones and who managed to get a signal to call the emergency services. I wonder if someone texted someone else who then phoned 112. Or if France has a service like http://www.emergencysms.org.uk/ to use sms for emergencies. Sms can sometimes work when no voice call is possible even if no signal strength is shown.
Very, and I forgot the tee-hee.
The facts were known
Look at the back of the exrafs mans head in the carefully prepared bbc video (they had more than a week to concocted it) +…
Anders…
“I am ex airline myself”
Cleaners don’t count mucker.
So…and this WILL BE INTERESTING ?
What airline…and what roles.
Just so I can get my head around your knowledge of Airbus A330 ?
Yes Anders. And no, no spooks post here. Don’t flatter yourself.
Though I look forward to reading more from you, I mean it! You have an incredible ability to read between the lines. But you get greedy, which is a shame.
We’ll meet again 😉
Bipolar says
“I’m running rings around the Legoland BOYZ, and you all know it”
I have nada response… I struggle to type when doubled over in fits of laughter !!!
Mike…
He coul;d have been “the second shooter” !
If he’s “sloppy” !
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Stop talking to yourself, James mike Jon Adrianna Peter interested et other energiser bunny rabbits and
Uncle Tom Cobley ‘n’ all,
THAT VIDEO FELIX POSTED WAS AWESOME
Anders you ad James need to get a room….I predict a wedding.
“THAT VIDEO FELIX POSTED WAS AWESOME” …..Anders.
Though I look forward to reading more from you, I mean it! You have an incredible ability to read between the lines. But you get greedy, which is a shame.
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And there is the sign of a REAL spook.
Is able to read people, but NOT in my case Mike. I am not being greedy, I am unique. I don’t want a job with SIS
ERGO
I am not trying to impress.
2800 pro attempts from Legoland to derail this thread and it is not working due to a determined group of Brits – not including Peyer and the Danish guy who didn’t know what a phonebox was.
Anyways Mike, look out for the useless eaters and a la votre mate!
I can’t watch videos on this laptop – is that the video where there’s nothing to watch, just the guy’s voice on it?