My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
I google searched using “[email protected]” using quotation marks and got 5 hits, now I get none!!
OOps ignore Sylvian pic 2 , surname = Droz-Bartholet
Mods fell free to delete my 6.50pm post – incorrect info
So was he Sylvain Mollier or Sylvain MollierE? The Sylvain in that pic is reported as Sylvain Molliere, working elsewhere to where Sylvain Mollier was said to be working.
Well… it’s the closest any has got !
It’s down to two. And that’s something.
@Straw, I wasn’t convinced by the email alone, but the fact this guy is making hunting knives to a high standard fits with a metallurgist. And he is named in the article about his new knife
Email should read [email protected]
Sorry
Sounds like we all sit back and see if that pic is flushed down the pipe to the mainstream news media ?
James.
Remember we are talking about three men who do similar work.They are also three keen cyclists.
The family know the guy … they have just eaten lunch at his house in the area,remember there are some hours missing after leaving campsite,they arrive at the parking spot with ‘friend’ in passenger seat child on his lap [ & bicycle on the roof rack ? ] they wait together for Mollier from Cezus to arrive,this could be to exchange something [ or for the ‘friend’ simply to identify who AH’s contact is ] …..
Mollier arrives ,identified or exchanges take place, ‘friend’ is the one in charge, car door remains open,he shoots Mollier, AH then the other two….slams the car door shut, locks are still on child lock.
He sprays car with shots, girl gets in the way,he now takes his bike off the rack, did it fall on her head ?
Then cycles for help….. .
Was friend = Rafman ever searched….. ?
We only have his word for car engine running,no phone connection & the child’s condition.
I went to the Metallurgy webpage link and within 2 minutes someone from Washington DC went there.
Searching again without “” stay sharp is a phrase used on that website. Am I stumbling around like a fool?
@Straw to a certain extent were all stumbling around without all the facts.
That pic is quite the find I would say, let’s see how long it takes to get shoved down the news pipe?
http://www.123people.fr/s/sylvain+molliere
I still think he’s a different one, but we’ll see.
Two pics on here
http://fr.viadeo.com/fr/profile/sylvain.molliere
Need to join this to see the profile. Anyone who speaks French want to volunteer?
Anomaly about the day of the crime on this website:-
http://www.lemessager.fr/Actualite/Chablais/2012/09/05/article_messager_1623629.shtml
Stawberry
I went to the Metallurgy webpage link and within 2 minutes someone from Washington DC went there”
……….
And how do you know that ?
James if you had been there yourself you would know
Stawberry
I went to the Metallurgy webpage link and within 2 minutes someone from Washington DC went there”
……….
And how do you know that ?
yes how indeed james.
looks like james as become lead investigator on this mossad mi6 farce.
luger gun today what will it be tommorow.
james dedication speaks volumes yes no.
now we have the iraqi building nukes trying to destroy london.
is it cos he is browm.
poor gareth was just a pervert in a sports bag.
nobody destroyed his reputation by saying he was working for osama.
who runs bengazi for the cia al queada who is in syria with nato weapons al queada.
james emails have been sent to various media asking abbout d notice so far no replies.
just because you can knock out 10 emails an hour just mean you have a dog in this fight.
and any answer or rebuttal you give needs to be looked at.
james what ever you say the fact is james bond,the cia and mossad kill kids and old folks.
any nation that uses depleted uranium missiles as uk,us,france and israel do not give a damn about humans.
this is a turf war no different to mafia infighting only with a much higher kill rate.
unless you are the fat controller on this site take a wank break old bean.
Golden rule nr 1. Ignore anyone using the idiot phrase conspiracy theory
Facts. All info about Mollier, where he lives, what he looks like kept secret from the French and world press. Period.
Ditto photos of Mrs Dentist. Mrs Granny.
Not so Mr Al Hilli.
Funeral of French citizen allegedly assasinated in cold blood kept secret.
Move along please, nothing to see.
…AND I WOULD HAVE GOT AWAY WITH IT, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR YOU PESKY KIDS !
You pair are crackers !
Here we go again !!!
The D notice !
And the proof of this is ????
Funeral of French citizen allegedly assasinated in cold blood kept secret.
Move along please, nothing to see.
question why have they not pinned this on a syrian or iranian.
because it is bad for france.
if it is known that us,mossad or uk kill teams are killing a french man on home soil.
it shows what a vassal state france is.
they can bomb libya with depleted uranium leaving dust with a half life of 10s of thousands of years.
but they run and hide and cover up when this happens.
what did the uk do when they found out mossad was using brit passports for kill teams.
nothing.
weakness.
complete zionist fear and control
You guys…. STOP IT !
You’re just intent on destroying this thread.
Mod/Clark….can you review please.
Stawberry
I went to the Metallurgy webpage link and within 2 minutes someone from Washington DC went there”
James
And how do you know that ?
Strawberry
James if you had been there yourself you would know
Kind od “says it all really”.
If you think you can defeat “free speech” and reason, you “guys” are wrong.
James, Go there and find out you lazy thing.
Who do you think you are?
We are not here for your benefit and you certainly arent for ours.
@ felix
Facts. All info about Mollier, where he lives, what he looks like kept secret from the French and world press. Period.
Ditto photos of Mrs Dentist. Mrs Granny.
Not so Mr Al Hilli.
Funeral of French citizen allegedly assasinated in cold blood kept secret.
Move along please, nothing to see.
……………………………
But its all normal Felix dontcha know..
@ strawberry
Who do you think you are?
We are not here for your benefit and you certainly arent for ours.
……….
You tell him Strawberry. And I echo every word.
@James there’s a live traffic feed on the site.
It shows visitors OS, Browser type, town and where they have been directed from.
There’s a S Mollier here, a member of les Chasseurs & in the right area, Third photo down. Right age, though I feel there would be a message of condolence if it were he..
http://www.acafc.net/pages/ACAFC_les_instructeurs_de_la_FFCA-336873.html
Dopey, you have been taken for a fool.
I have folloewed the links, …and for the life of me I have not been taken by Washington.
So, no D noice.
No flight from Geneva
The gun “appears” to be wrong (but I think a Luger !!! That’s odd).
Washington and the spooks watching this thread is wrong.
So, fella’s…what next ?
Shame watcher, he sits on his throne bossing you all about.
James underlings.
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