My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
Haden.
Which one of the three types of gun has the more efficient silencer ?
@Dopey, what’s he studying? Physics? Fluid Dynamics? Metallurgy? Aeronautics?
This Luger is bollocks
The SKORPION is bollocks
They keep inventing a new weapon every other day
We only have their word for it, correct?
They want any gun
EXCEPT MOSSAD BERETTAS
STANDARD ISSUE TO KIDON SHOOTERS
PLURAL 😉
Hello Anders !
Having read you for three days I feel we’ve already met .
n the apparent picture of Molliercan anyone identify the chain around his neck, religious?
How can it take until Oct for the gun results?
@Ricki There’s a very small key and a circular pendant with 2 figures on.
I don’t recognize either, thought it was a St Christopher at first but don’t recognize it as that sort of pendant
I don’t recognise the two figures Ricki, but the key … ?
Hi Katie, welcome to Legoland!
BACK TO BASICS(tm)
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www. .guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea. org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
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Even if it was 1 shooter, they’d carry 2 weapons, in case of a jam ?
Also do we know if the girl was shot from the front or from the back ?
Hi Katie, welcome to Legoland!
BACK TO BASICS(tm)
Just tried to post original links to nukes
Twice
Waiting to be moderated
Even if it was 1 shooter, they’d carry 2 weapons, in case of a jam ?
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Of course they would.
Rule 1.
Always have backup. 😉
Also do we know if the girl was shot from the front or from the back ?
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According to DP she want shot at all
Head no head injuries
Appeared dead
Wasn’t shot at all
SM dodgy temp funeral is bollockd
No photos of main players is bollocks
I’m sticking with the DA notice
And
The Tavistock SIS fairytale 😉
SO if we believe DP (or any witness) face down = entry wound on back and larger exit wound on front
@Katie
Suppressors and how loud a weapon is generally tend to go on the calibre rather than the model of weapon. .32 ACP suppressors are quite hard to come by due to the fact it apparently doesn’t suppress well, although it’s entirely possible to use a 9mm suppressor instead or a custom fit. It’s not a massively loud round anyway.
@ watcher
http://ch.linkedin.com/pub/jean-philippe-didier/2b/3a/3a5
But I dont think its him.
Site back again then ?
@Dopey, Could be a bit of a stretch, but a Bio-chemist in the same place would be a cute fit, in light of the other ‘witnesses’.
@GuyF, this site ? No drop outs noticed here, was probably all those trojans calling tehran, moscow, washington etc .. lol
U2 Guy it appears others were OK though looking at the times, butit was down for me for 10 mins+ (posted down time onto David Icke)
Was down from UK IP addresses and other Geos also, agree approx 10 mins
Thanks Haden.
I live in France, deep in the countryside & can tell you, guns are being fired regularly so there would be nothing unusual in hearing one.
@GuyF, I might not have refreshed this for 10 mins
@Anders Early reports pointed to a shoulder wound from a gunshot ?
Site was down for me too.
@ watcher
If, by a long stretch, that IS the guy I’ll be speechless.
The closest to a “normal” occupation we’ve had so far was Bob the Builder.
@felix
Facts. All info about Mollier, where he lives, what he looks like kept secret from the French and world press. Period.Ditto photos of Mrs Dentist. Mrs Granny.Not so Mr Al Hilli.
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I agree with you that it is unusual to find so little about mollier. Conspiracy would be much less if we knew some more facts about him.for me he is a key person.
It is not surprising that there are no pictures of two shia women. They are not allowed showing their faces on pictures and therefore no pictures do exist. And if there would exist any pictures then their faces would be turqa covered.
@Anders Early reports pointed to a shoulder wound from a gunshot ?
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Yes
Also first reports said the old lady in the back seat was dead
But no gunshot wounds
70 yrs old
Mi5 massagers get going
She is 77
And had 2 shots on the brain
All have 2 shots in the brain
Then the fairytale morphs again that some PAC in the car cannot be identified because their faces are obliterated
The umpteen different guns being come up with is a red herring
To distract from the Mossad signature calling card weapon
I also don’t believe the 25 bullets fairytale
Many reports stated lots more. Consistent with automatic fire
Machine gun fire for those not au fait with ballistics
This fits with the fact about facial recognition problems
So two shooters
Main one was clinical Beretta through the drivers side window
Other shooter is spraying
Main shooter makes sure all are Mort via brain shots
Two kids spared on purpose
RAFman spared on purpose 😉
BACT TO BASICS(tm) 🙂
LOL, Anders(jamebond777) is the doing the classic Spook, pretend to be the aggressor, pretend to know more, keeps referring to old stories, brings no facts to the table, tries to aggregate “followers” to become the one. Goes wired, then goes straight, plays the 24/7 game. Does this on all the forums, wonder why. Oxbridge, nah, some new duffer from a poly on box payroll , nah. A wannabee spook, most likely
If, by a long stretch, that IS the guy I’ll be speechless.
The closest to a “normal” occupation we’ve had so far was Bob the Builder
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Lol 🙂
This is a fairytale psyop. 😉