My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
Opps !
that to anbers7777
That ex flying squad guy (name escapes me) said he thought it was significant there were no shots through front window. He claimed there was a significant risk bullet would bounce off a modern BMW front windscreen (but not the side windows) which a professional hit team would know but not those who just watch movies.
True or false anyone know?
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True’ish
Depends on the caliber and angle
7.65mm cartridges are subsonic, low recoil, very accurate which is yes why Mossad in the Negev practice for two years
This has been gone over six seven times on this thread
9mm are supersonic and much more punch
Far louder
Smaller rounds quiter and more accurate
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical-weapons/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/
Anders,
When it comes to this sort of stuff I never really believe anything or anyone 100%. I’ve read everything here. I’ve even seen some of my posts in this forum copied elsewhere (without attribution) then copied back to here from other forums.
I truly do not know what this was all about.
Aerial reconnaissance? (The captured drone, future Iranian spy sats)
Nuclear Fuel?
SILEX?
Fusion research?
Family Feud?
Something else?
All have been mentioned. I do wonder about the captured drone as it doesn’t get mentioned often and seems closest to the Iraqi’s official line of work.
But I just don’t know.
7.62mm thru a windshield of a BMW !
Rapid fire, yes.
You would of course take out the windshield and the people.
But that is not what is shown in the pics I have seen.
Have tou seen different ????
According to the Mirror article a friend of Al-Hilli said: “Saad didn’t like Americans and didn’t mind saying so. He would tell me about things they were doing in Iraq which hadn’t been reported here and when I looked into them they seemed to be true.”
So if he didn’t like the Americans, he had knowledge of SILEX and had visited Iran recently he would be a target of MOSSAD with UK connivance
@james
“Snooker Loopy” Forum as someboby suggested…. for the “lets jump loads of relevant stuff”…..and make our own up !
Or the Dept of “Mis information”.
Back to topic.
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Fuck back to topic, you reveal yourself as an arrogant idiot.
I’ve seen a lot more sense spoken on the Icke thread than here, in many respects.
Any arsehole that thumbs his pretty nose at DATA is a fucking moron.
This place, as the regulars know, of which I am a long time lurker, has been SWAMPED with shills, idiots, and morons, James (wink).
Twat.
Whoa…tiger.
This is a forum.
Where the hell did that come from?
One very angry girlie there methinks.
Back to topic (ya nasty dwarf)
The car was still running, but didn’t run away. He was waiting off the road/track! He didn’t stop to take foto’s,it’s a forest.
Maybe one of the girls needed to pee and therefore the stop, or he was more likely waiting to meet someone.There is no sign of a mad rush with the car…
He reversed and sat where he did,because he was going back the road he had just come.Long way for a discreet pee, therefore meeting more likely..
The killers couldn’t get into the car to finsih the job as it just isn’t that easy.Therefore all shots came from outside.
I think all of the security services would be capable of executing everybody,including children.MI6, Mossad, MI5, CIA, FBI ?? They cover their tracks and protect themselves and have no regard for the law of whatever country they are operating in.
But the biggest sign that Govt is involved is the fact a DA order was issued re: the story, so that no mention of Iran,Israel,our security services or nuclear weapons would be permitted.The press have been contained on this one. The Guardian said
” For legal reasons, this article will not be open to further comments ”
Why ?
Don’t they like having reader participation ?
What comments could possibly make the story any more maccabre ?
What are the legal reasons ? I am no lawyer !
Hmm Shades of :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Drummond
On the evening of 4 August 1952, while on holiday in France in their green Hillman estate car, the Drummonds stopped by the side of the N96 main road, less than 200 metres from a picturesque farmhouse called La Grand’Terre. The site is marked by a milestone as exactly 6 km south of Peyruis and 6 km north of La Brillanne. A footpath leads from the site down to the banks of the river Durance.
La Grand’Terre was the home of the Dominicis, a family of Franco-Italian peasant farmers: the patriarch Gaston, his wife Marie, their son Gustave, Gustave’s wife Yvette and their baby son Alain. It was Gustave who claimed to have found the three dead bodies around 5:30am on the morning of 5 August, and who flagged down a passing motorcyclist, Jean-Marie Olivier, telling him to fetch the police.
Anne’s body was found near the car. Jack’s lay on the other side of the N96, covered by a camp bed. They had both been shot by a Rock-Ola rifle. The body of 10-year-old Elizabeth was found 77 metres away, down the path leading to the river, on the other side of the bridge over the railway. Her head had been brutally smashed in by the stock of the rifle. The barrel of the murder weapon was soon found in the river, with the stock a short distance downstream. It is likely that the force of the blow or blows used to kill Elizabeth had also broken the stock off the rifle.
Anders, your words.
“And as an aside to suspicious friend Suhayl”
My words
Why is he “suspicious” ?
Answer please…or please leave.
As far as I can see he would have had no more knowledge about SILEX than I can get with Google. It seems he never worked on anything remotely close to SILEX and certainly not at RAL.
DoNNyDarKo
Quote. “There is no sign of a mad rush with the car…
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The vehicle is “up a bank” and one wheel full of mud.
I suggest he was running, but failed.
One reason the 7 year-old may have been sitting in the passenger’s front seat is if she got car sick on twisty mountain roads.
And carsickness would have also been a reason for the child to get out of the car.
The tyres are shot out. The ground is dry. It’s not mud.
“And carsickness would have also been a reason for the child to get out of the car.”
Assuming she bailed out, she may have gone out of the open rear window, she can’t have gone out of the front door, as opening/shuting it would have disturbed the glass you can see in the pictures.
One question, if anyboby would answer.
How did the killer escape ?
Where did he go ?
By road, by trail, by forest.
By car, by bike, by motorbike, by foot ?
Was he killed ?
Did he not need to escape ?
Answer those…and we’re half way there, I think
“The tyres are shot out. The ground is dry. It’s not mud”.
Wrong ! BMW DSC.
That’s mud. Its a forest.
Even in “dry” weather trees still grow….that why they grow so well !!!!
One question, if anyboby would answer.
Again…
How did the killer escape ?
Where did he go ?
By road, by trail, by forest.
By car, by bike, by motorbike, by foot ?
Was he killed ?
Did he not need to escape ?
Answer those…and we’re half way there, I think
http://www.20minutes.fr/societe/998417-live-haute-savoie-revivez-conference-presse-procureur-annecy-sujet-tuerie
Created on 06/09/2012 at 13:46 – Updated on 06/09/2012 at 15:32
replay of the press conference. Visit here for a summary of what has just announced Attorney Eric Maillaud Annecy and gendarmerie officers in charge of the investigation with him.
2:53 p.m.: On the timing, the officer said that the cyclist who found the bodies put “usually half an hour to climb this,” and he was overtaken by the second cyclist killed in the massacre at the beginning of the mounted. has therefore a priori discovered the bodies at maximum half an hour after the shooting . “The place is not known as a place of exchange of drugs or anything.”
14h53: Sur le timing, l’officier précise que le cycliste ayant trouvé les corps mettait «habituellement une demi heure pour faire cette montée», et qu’il a été dépassé par le second cycliste, mort dans la tuerie, au début de la montée. Il a donc a priori découvert les corps au maximum une demi-heure après la fusillade. «Le lieu n’est pas connu comme étant un lieu d’échanges de drogues ou quoi que ce soit».
DoNNyDarKo.
Only official statement I can find said that the car had “one visible flat tyre” said at press conf on Friday. If it was spinning and digging into the ground for a time could it have just burst? Again professional hit-men don’t shoot at tyres if they can help it, as I understand it.
Anon, regarding them working for RAL read the daily mirror article posted here. It is evident that hicheur worked for RAL and the mirror said that al-Hilli regularly worked for them, too. As for SILEX at RAL which was top gov secret there, read the harvard link posted above that confirms that RAL was experimenting with SILEX. Daily mirror says that hilli was working for a giant particle accelerator. Likely this is SILEX experimental devices. hicheur was even sent to cern.
Whoa…tiger.
This is a forum.
Where the hell did that come from?
One very angry girlie there methinks.
Back to topic (ya nasty dwarf)
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It was very well deserved, I don’t take condescending insults lightly.
Readers may be interested in this summary.im sure you know all about it “James”…
Tavistock Institute quotes
Shadow government Tavistock Institute
To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, the report envisages demoralized and discouraged workers resorting to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard, the Committee commissioned Tavistock Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as the “Aquarian Conspiracy”.—Targets of the Illuminati and the Committee of 300 By Dr. John Coleman.
“The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the “breaking point” of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism. Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to “improving” the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. “—Thanks for the Memories by Brice Taylor
Tavistock was the post WWII model for the CIA’s more extensive Monarch Program, which comprises untold millions of unconscious, programmed assets now throughout N America, Europe and parts of Asia. The programming doesnt’ work well on Blacks and is only partly effective on red-skinned people but whites (especially Nordic types) and orientals take to it very well.
According to some reputable researchers, Sigmund Freud was Tavistock’s first director, followed by his daughter, who apparently still runs the facility. It was used to program the postwar leaders of Germany’s government, churches, schools, corporations, etc., from among the POWs who were easy to manipulate.
Lots of us who post on EW are washouts of Tavistock and Monarch programs, I suggest, including me. Lawful payback is pretty refreshing after someone has tried their best to ruin our lives, I think.
Most of the Tavistock facility is probably underground, so I hope someone will drop plenty of orgonite into open pipes around that neighborhood.—~Don
A single common denominator identifies the common Tavistock strategy—the use of drugs. The infamous MK Ultra program of the CIA, in which unsuspecting CIA officials were given LSD, and their reaction studied like “guinea pigs”, resulted in several deaths. The U.S. Government had to pay millions in damages to the families of the victims, but the culprits were never indicted. The program originated when Sandoz AG, a Swiss drug firm, owned by S.G. Warburg Co. of London, developed Lysergic Acid. Roosevelt’s advisor, James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler, set up the Institute fir Policy Studies to promote the drug. The result was the LSD “counter-culture” of the 1960s, the “student revolution”, which was financed by $25 million from the CIA.
One part of MK Ultra was the Human Ecology Fund; the CIA also paid Dr. Herbert Kelman of Harvard to carry out further experiments on mind control. In the 1950s, the CIA financed extensive LSD experiments in Canada. Dr. D. Ewen Cameron, president of the Canadian Psychological Association, and director of Royal Victorian Hospital, Montreal, received large payments from the CIA to give 53 patients large doses of LSD and record their reactions; the patients were drugged into weeks of sleep and then given electric shock treatments. One victim, the wife of a member of the Canadian Parliament, is now suing the U.S. companies who provided the drug for the CIA. All the records of the CIA’s drug testing program were ordered destroyed by the head of MK Ultra. TAVISTOCK — THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN AMERICA by Dr. John Coleman
Tavistock, England–This has been the primary programming center for England. The Rothschild programmers work out of Tavistock. A large number of slaves in America have been programmed there. Tavistock has been doing mind-control since before W.W.ll. Under the supervision of London’s W Board & 20 Committee MI6 and MI5’s Section BIA ran double agents and mind-controlled spies/couriers during W.W. II. MI6 has had an office at Century House, No. 100, Westminster Bridge Road. MI5 offices have been in part on Curzon St. MI5 has operated behind a number of fronts, incl. their fake travel agency Casuro Holidays. MI-5’s address for mail is Room 055, The War Office, London. Special Intelligence Service (SIS) dealt with all types of mind control. Tavistock was under SIS. The British government has had their own telephone exchange with a 222 prefix, which was later linked to another secret exchange YTAN. Outsiders could dial 222 8080 to get into the secret govt. exchange.
The Royal Free Hospital at the University of London works with Tavistock Clinic, as well as the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) of Sussex University. A large number of Britian’s psychologist, social workers and police get their training at Tavistock. Tavistock has set themselves up as the authority on ritual abuse and MPD (DID). In other words, the primary programming site, is pretending to be the leading institution trying to solve the problem! That’s a good cover. The Illuminati Formula Appendix I: The Programmers
Because of the intensive artillery barrages of World War I, many soldiers were permanently impaired by shell shock. In 1921, the Marquees of Tavistock, 11th Duke of Bedford, gave a building to a group which planned to conduct rehabilitation programs for shell shocked British soldiers. The group took the name of “Tavistock Institute” after its benefactor. The General Staff of the British Army decided it was crucial that they determine the breaking point of the soldier under combat conditions. The Tavistock Institute was taken over by Sir John Rawlings Reese, head of the British Army Psychological Warfare Bureau. A cadre of highly trained specialists in psychological warfare was built up in total secrecy. In fifty years, the name “Tavistock Institute’ appears only twice in the Index of the New York Times, yet this group, according to LaRouche and other authorities, organized and trained the entire staffs of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the Strategic Bombing Survey, Supreme Headquarters of the Allied Expeditionary Forces, and other key American military groups during World War II. During World War II, the Tavistock Institute combined with the medical sciences division of the Rockefeller Foundation for esoteric experiments with mind-altering drugs. The present drug culture of the United States is traced in its entirety to this Institute, which supervised the Central Intelligence Agency’s training programs. The “LSD counter culture” originated when Sandoz A.G., a Swiss pharmaceutical house owned by S.G. Warburg & Co., developed a new drug from lysergic acid, called LSD. James Paul Warburg (son of Paul Warburg who had written the Federal Reserve Act in 1910), financed a subsidiary of the Tavistock Institute in the United States called the Institute for Policy Studies, whose director, Marcus Raskin, was appointed to the National Security Council. James Paul Warburg set up a CIA program to experiment with LSD on CIA agents, some of whom later committed suicide. This program, MK-Ultra, supervised by Dr. Gottlieb, resulted in huge lawsuits against the United States Government by the families of the victims.
The English Tavistock Institute has not restricted its activities to left-wing groups, but has also directed the programs of such supposedly “conservative” American think tanks as the Herbert Hoover Institute at Stanford University, Heritage Foundation, Wharton, Hudson, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Rand. The “sensitivity training” and “sexual encounter” programs of the most radical California groups such as Esalen Institute and its many imitators were all developed and implemented by Tavistock Institute psychologists.
One of the rare items concerning the Tavistock Institute appears in Business Week, Oct. 26, 1963, with a photograph of its building in the most expensive medical offices area of London. The story mentions “the Freudian bias” of the Institute, and comments that it is amply financed by British blue-chip corporations, including Unilever, British Petroleum, and Baldwin Steel. According to Business Week, the psychological testing programs and group relations training programs of the Institute were implemented in the United States by the University of Michigan and the University of California, which are hotbeds of radicalism and the drug network.
It was the Marquees of Tavistock, 12th Duke of Bedford, whom Rudolf Hess flew to England to contact about ending World War II. Tavistock was said to be worth $40 million in 1942. In 1945, his wife committed suicide by taking an overdose of pills. APPENDIX I [SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE By Eustace Mullins]
Research into the use of microwave weapons and their use for mind control began in 1950s at the Tavistock Institute, one of Britain’s leading psychiatric research establishments. The UK institute was researching into ways of mind controlling the British population without them knowing. The monkey submission response, whereby the dominant monkey caused submissive behaviour in the underlings, was the brain state of most interest to the British scientists. Having found this specific brain rhythm for docile submissive, zombie-like behaviour, it was then recorded and used as the template for the ELF signal beamed on UK microwave transmitters. Britain was the first discoverer of microwave technology, used for radar, in the 1940s and therefore had a commanding lead over everyone else in this field. MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL by Tim Rifat
Tavistock, England–This has been the primary programming center for England. The Rothschild programmers work out of Tavistock. A large number of slaves in America have been programmed there.
Tavistock has been doing mind-control since before W.W.ll. Under the supervision of London’s W Board & 20 Committee MI6 and MIS’s Section BIA ran double agents and mind-controlled spies/couriers during W.W. II. MI6 has had an office at Century House, No. 100, Westminster Bridge Road. MI5 offices have been in part on Curzon St. MI5 has operated behind a number of fronts, incl. their fake travel agency Casuro Holidays. MI-5’s address for mail is Room 055, The War Office, London. Special Intelligence Service (SIS) dealt with all types of mind control. Tavistock was under SIS. The British government has had their own telephone exchange with a 222 prefix, which was later linked to another secret exchange YTAN. Outsiders could dial 222 8080 to get into the secret govt. exchange. Men like mind-control expert/hypnotist Eric Trist worked for Tavistock. A six-man team which wore black berets also helped w/ mind control at Tavistock.
Two people who became terrorists after their visits to Tavistock are Angela Davis and Stockley Carmichael who went to a conference at Tavistock entitled Dialectics of Liberation in 1967. It’s main building is a bland 6-story building. The address is The Training Office, The Tavistock Clinic, 120 Belsize Lane, London, UK NWs SBA. Tel. no. 071-435 7111. The chief exec. is Anton Obholzer. The Chair of Prof. Comm. is Nicholas Temple. Both are skilled in psychology. The Tavistock Clinic was founded in 1920, and in 1946 the Tavistock Institute was created as an independent body to assist the Tavistock Clinic. The Institute does more of the research. The Royal Free Hospital at the University of London works with Tavistock Clinic, as well as the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) of Sussex University. A large number of Britian’s psychologist, social workers and police get their training at Tavistock. Tavistock has set themselves up as the authority on ritual abuse and MPD (DID). In other words, the primary programming site, is pretending to be the leading institution trying to solve the problem! That’s a good cover. APPENDIX B. THE PROGRAMMING SITES Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula.
@James – killer(s) escaped in green 4×4, motorbike (both seen by RAF guy), and possibly a white Peugeout (seen by female witness).
A theory – please pull it to bits
So we are back to 25 casings found 15 initially and a further 10 after the car was removed.
5 + 2 in the French cyclist 1 Zainab’s shoulder + 3 each for the 3 dead adults in the car. Makes 17.
8 left how about 2 in each of the 4 windows to make it look like shots were from outside. Total 25. Only needing to put to shoot thru 3 windows for the 3 adults.
So why 2 holes in the front passenger window? His only mistake?
If the 3 adults were killed inside the car. Who could have done it? The fairytale former RAF, who then would need a few minutes to pick up the casings that fell inside the car and throw them outside.
“And as an aside to suspicious friend Suhayl”
Why is he “suspicious” ?
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Because YOU asked the question, twatters.
Have you made an OOPS “James”…?
You are an arrogant prick, and I here to pop you.
Cut the shit, Johnnie come Lately.
@Straw44berry – Occam’s Razor dictates that when there are competing theories, you should select the one that is the simplest and which makes the fewest assumptions. Your theory has introduced layers of complexity that are not required to fit the known facts.
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Well two people have come up with something.
QUOTE…
the timing, the officer said that the cyclist who found the bodies put “usually half an hour to climb this,” and he was overtaken by the second cyclist killed in the massacre at the beginning of the mounted. has therefore a priori discovered the bodies at maximum half an hour after the shooting.
AND QUOTE
one visible flat tyre” said at press conf on Friday. If it was spinning and digging into the ground for a time could it have just burst?
Put that lot in with the Fillion-Robin story and there is “half an hour.
I assume that the DSC on a BMW 5 series SE would keep going, but if flat ..does it ?
So can we agree that …..?
Maybe the shotting happened and there was a pause…before SM turned up ?
I was thinking it happened at the same time ?
bluebird
The only link with Harvard in it posted earlier in the thread is broken. Do you have the correct link?
Occam’s Razor !
And Holmes said “disregard the impossible…etc”
And the judge says “facts please” !
I certainly don’t want to make this about me, or Nuid, or Nextus, or anyone else. But as James (thanks, James, much appreciated) says, I’m not sure why I am suddenly “suspicious” (now how about ‘auspicious’, I could live with that!). I post under a readily-identifiable name and have material, books, etc. readily obtainable on the web. My views are open and clear and always have been – people are free to agree or disagree. Anders777, come on, you’ve posted lots of great stuff here on this subject, I don’t agree with refs to the site run by the ex-goalkeeper, but that’s an aside, not the main issue – let’s focus on the main issue, right: ‘Who killed the Al-Hilli’s and the cyclist, and why?’. Don’t turn on us all now.
Btw, I meant to ask earlier, but didn’t want to distract attention: How did you decide on ‘Anders7777’ as a pseudonym? It’s not from ‘Anders Breivik’, by any chance? I hope not. I guess it’s a pretty common name. Just wondering.