My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
Ok I understand the Hafnium reaction to a degree. What’s our CERN guy up to these days following his release ?
Would love to have a look in that shed 🙂
Guys..and girls
Can I ask one question.
If you prove that it was Mossad and that the French Authorities lied and that tried to cover things up…and that “someone” was trying to sell “secrets” to Iran…and it they were shot…as well as “passers by”.
What would you do… as in “do” about it ?
There maybe lots of “bark” here on this site. But there is little “bite”.
James
@vermillion Luger is also a very accurate weapon in the right hands; although magazine change can be problematic for those not well versed in the weapon it seems.
@luger lovers – smoke & mirrors ..have you seen a luger avec drum ?
http://minuteofarc.tumblr.com/post/331374089/pistole-luger-p08-9x19mm-parabellum-with
I’ve been catching up with the past few days of the thread today and have been meaning to say I really liked your first post. Well written, well thought out, concise, and to the point!
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Yes, only took 10 days or so. 😉
Well done FIONA! 🙂 :p
@James
So what would you propose in your bite scenario ?
For some of us, getting to the truth would be a good move forwards.
Personally I just enjoy applying a little logic to the problem
Guys..and girls
Can I ask one question.
If you prove that it was Mossad and that the French Authorities lied and that tried to cover things up…and that “someone” was trying to sell “secrets” to Iran…and it they were shot…as well as “passers by”.
What would you do… as in “do” about it ?
There maybe lots of “bark” here on this site. But there is little “bite”.
James
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Translation: James is trotting out the whorey old spook motto – the end justifies the means… 😉
Right James? 🙂
BTW
You’re up late!!! 😉
Worried about getting demoted again to floor sweeper? 🙂
“I’ve been catching up with the past few days of the thread today”
But why ? You were writing last night !
Lats have an “ding dong”. At least it’s fun. I have to fly tomorrow.
Right.. it’s “mup dad” they did it. And you’re full of poo !
Ah… I didnt read your above.
Street cleaner ! Me ! … I pay your diabled car allownace ya old fart !
And as for Massad, ya can’t even spell it (see the mistake there !)/
…and your theory on 22. That’s rubbish to. Fart bag !
…and while I am at it…..
I bet ppl think your weird with an Ipodphone, tapping it every two seconds.
Ya poo fart !
CMON Flanders !
Give it 2 em.
opps that’s me !
@James
So what would you propose in your bite scenario ?
For some of us, getting to the truth would be a good move forwards.
Personally I just enjoy applying a little logic to the problem
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James is emplyed by MI5, obviously, and is worse than useless. 🙂
He doesn’t agree with the owner of this site, who sez on page one, opening portal to this site:
All decent people must despair at the prospect of yet another cycle of violence. Powerful interests both in the West and in the Middle East are not amongst those decent people.
Of all the signals the West could send out to try to end the horrors wrought by the promoters of the “Clash of civilisations”, the most powerful would be to arraign Bush and Blair for war crimes. This is not a deluded hope of idealists; it is an essential step if the world is ever to heal.
You see, James and his shitty traitorous ilk are all Zionist PNAC warmongering stooges, ALL OF THEM, otherwise there would be a REVOLUTION in the UK, and we’d kick them all out, issue a new currency, and tell them all to fuck offski, and start up real industry again, get all our kids jobs and a REAL future – not the Fabian oi vey death by 1000 cuts that we are halfway through NOW.
CUNTS!
Right James? 🙂
@james
please respond …..
@James
So what would you propose in your bite scenario ?
For some of us, getting to the truth would be a good move forwards.
Personally I just enjoy applying a little logic to the problem
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Alternatively
You can just sit here and bugger up any rational discussion, is that your porpoise ? ….yes I know that’s a clever fish
oops…sorry Flanders, I have anoher play pr*ck. Wait up fella.
@James
But why ? You were writing last night !
My mistake… it probably just FELT like two days…
Why so many posts, James – trying to push something off the front page?
Hafnium, hafnium, hafnium!
Someone touched a NERVE!!! LMAO! 🙂
Notice whenever James fucks up, he starts posting like an Uzi at La Chevaline sur la Mort! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Hilarious! 🙂
Guy !
You beat me to the “fish” thing…sorry.
But what are you asking ?
What would you do if it was actually Mossad..and your Govt.com said “it was”, can we have a big war please ?
You would say ????
@GuyF
Remind me, I’m being a bit lazy here, I know… but to try to get back on topic maybe you could fill in the dots for us… what’s the CERN person’s role here? I know he/she got done for something (terrorist offences?), spent 5 days in jail (after time already served) and then went free… AFAIR it’s a “he” with a feminine sounding french first name, is that right?
Ferret….
But why ? You were writing last night !
My Question was to Flanders….and you replied !!! DOH !
Ya f*cked up there mucker !!
So tell me this, you (Ferret) and Flanders are one and the same ??/
I have looked at the style of writing and comments, go on, tell me…. it is you ?
You are the same ?
I thought James was trying to root out Muslim radicals here for his masters.
“You see, James and his shitty traitorous ilk are all Zionist”
But I am not even Jewish !
I am church of Scotland. Although I have travelled since.
james, what’s yellow, has wheels & floats?
My Question was to Flanders….and you replied !!! DOH !
Anders was quoting my post, you incredible nincompoop
😀
“his shitty traitorous ilk”
BUT Anders….that sounds like you want a war see !
That’s what Joe madman on here wants !
At least I can say, that I have no “country”. I follow no flag.
A profession ya see.
CMON Flanders, ya can do better than that (and no Jeish jokes, it’s not nice).
Ferret… your just Flander in “hiding” !
You even use the same words.
Come on…. just say Ferret7777. T’is easier.
Touche ferret!!!
BTW, excellent HARD DATA(tm) finds, day after day!!! 😉
@alltrusthseekershereatcm
BRAVO PEOPLE!!! 🙂 😉
@James
But why ? You were writing last night !
My mistake… it probably just FELT like two days…
Why so many posts, James – trying to push something off the front page?
Hafnium, hafnium, hafnium!
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Glad a small minority here, very VERY small(BUT GROWING 😉 ), alas, can see through the shite! 😉
However, we all have to start somewhere, and the MASTERCLASS(tm) will continue! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Suggest ferret and others repost their finding around 10 or 11am, as this place will be on fire when the wage slaves return to work and spend all their time buried in this thread, catching up!!! 🙂
Will take them a good two hours, so aim for 11am! 🙂
James and his PSYCHOCHUMS(tm) will be flooding the thread around the same time, with calm reasoned NLP comfy MORONIC essays, aiming to fool the sheep that are too dim to grok the scenario.
Problem is, on this site, there are very VERY few sheep (the only sheep here are spooks! 😉 ), BUT tons of shills! 🙂 🙂 🙂
To 11 am!!! 🙂
@James
I am asking what would you do in that position James, not what I would do ? Don’t try and turn the question around. I don’t think there are any activists on this thread, just people looking for the truth.
btw Who mentioned Mossad and War ?
I’m still looking at little brown guys and some shiny bits of stuff that can kill a lot of people, yet still leave all the infrastructure untouched with an extremely short half life….bit like “Slum Clearance Inc”. As I understand it should work like a Neutron Bomb without the associated fission damage.
Am I correct ?
“james, what’s yellow, has wheels & floats?”
No idea…. but it’s a capital at the start of a name !
Did you go to “skool” !
I have some books here. I can send them to you if you like ?
@Ferret
You have it there
@james you work at legoland and dont know what’s yellow, has wheels & floats??