My post on the shootings in France has brought tens of thousands of people to this site – but not to read my dull contribution. People are coming to read the comments from other readers.
Today’s development of the bomb squad descending on the al-Hilli house does not in itself worry me enormously. You may recall the massive terror scare that was ramped up when some Muslim students in Manchester were found to own a bag of sugar.
In fact we have the opposite phenomenon today, with the spook-fed “security correspondents” on TV lining up to tell us it is probably just everyday household stuff. This deviation from the standard Islamophobic “Muslims = bombs” narrative is so startling it makes me wonder why the “move along, nothing to see here” line is being taken so quickly.
My own security services sources insist that al-Hilli was not a person of current interest to the UK intelligence agencies and was not involved in anything clandestine. I have no reason to disbelieve them. On the other hand, the limited and confusing information in the media is almost entirely from official sources. I find it very strange indeed how little attention has been paid to the murdered French cyclist, and how easily it is presumed he was just a passerby. Surely it is as likely he was the intended victim and the al-Hillis the accidental witnesses?
Please do read the comments on my first entry on the subject to see the debate unfettered by the censorship in the mainstream media. This is perhaps my favourite comment:
From Janesmith101
All comments regarding Sylvain, Al-Hilli and a possible nuclear link are being removed from sites I’ve posted on in The Guardian, Independent and Huffpo UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/09/alps-killer-motive-baffles-police
Here was my comment, I added as a point of fact it was completely speculative and an unproven theory in a later comment, also removed.
Sylvain Mollier, the ‘passing’ cyclist, was in fact a nuclear metallurgist who worked for a french nuclear company called Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva). Cezus fabricates and processes zirconium into metal and nuclear grade zircoaloy for nuclear fuel assemblies – it also has other applications in aerospace such as components and ceramics for missiles and satellites. Mr Al-Hilli was also a skilled aerospace engineer, on what looks to be his first camping holiday.
What is the probability that two highly skilled engineers managed be at the same remote place, at the same time, yet still managed to end up dead as a result of what looks to be a military style assasination?
As someone else pointed out in The Independent comments, the deceased were found by a ‘retired’ RAF officer who, we assume, will recieve perpetual anonymity as a witness. If the police are looking for a motive, try an intercepted rendevous by a security service fixated on denying a hostile power illicit nuclear technology.
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/162-1995-june/7823-israel-bombs-iraqs-osirak-nuclear-research-facility.html
The Huffington Post UK reports that this wasn’t the family’s first trip to the camp site. An earlier report had asked other camp site visitors whether they had seen the family before and they had replied they hadn’t. If this isn’t wasn’t the first visit by Al-Hilli, it might slightly increase the odds that he knew or had met Mollier before, this being the last in a series of rendevous of a transactional nature. Mollier lived and worked locally.
Again, I’m not sure of the truth of these reports, there is some very sloppy journalism, as there is always seems to be. I’ve read for example Mollier’s company Cevus descirbed as a steel firm something which it is patently not, but perhaps it may have been a detail lost in translation.
An interesting comment summing up some of the strange coincidences, at least, surrounding these murders. My other favourite comment calls me a “macchiavellian shill”.
I have only one thought of my own I want to add at the minute. Al-Hilli was a Shia muslim and had been on pilgrimage to Qoms in Iran. What if it is indeed true that he was in possession of no especial nuclear or defence secrets to pass on to the Iranians, but the Israelis thought that he was? The Israeli programme of assassination of scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear programme is a definite fact. It makes as much sense as anything else at the moment, as a possibility.
I am not saying that is what happened. But the directions in which the mainstream media is being so strenuously pointed by official sources, like the massacre of an entire family over an inheritance, are certainly no more inherently probable. Certainly as we are now told all the shots were from one gun, for the assassin to get each victim in the head with none of them being able to escape, indicates real proficiency with the weapon and a very high level of training.
To 11 am!!!
Amen to that.
Going off now to find some more HARD DATA™ (I’ll pay you royalties later!)
And thanks for the masterclass. MUCH appreciated.
😀
@james i spell your name like this because I think you are a little ‘j’
off to bed also, see you all at 11. Might take the morning off work aka (WFH) to see how this pans out 😉
Guy !
“btw Who mentioned Mossad”
You haven’t read Flanders much have you !!!!
Everything is “Mossad” did it !
Ask him about the D Notice. It is funny. He hates it when people ask for proof.
And the Geneva flight with Mossad onboard.
Problem there is… I fly in to LSGG…and I go to the FBO there…many…many…many times. And his story is SH*TE *but it works on here)
No APU, no fuel, not even a coffee or a pee (even on a GV Flanders, you can’t “flush” on the ground !)
I like him tho… He cheers me up on standby.
I’m still looking at little brown guys and some shiny bits of stuff that can kill a lot of people, yet still leave all the infrastructure untouched with an extremely short half life….bit like “Slum Clearance Inc”. As I understand it should work like a Neutron Bomb without the associated fission damage.
Am I correct ?
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Yes. 😉
ok @James, my problem , I just seem to filter out the noise (Mossad etc) without thinking.
Catch you all tomorrow I guess
i spell your name like this because I think you are a little ‘j’
LOVE IT…but ya can’t
You put “i” and not “I”.
Lesson one, “I” is the first person, singular. Therefore an “I” is required.
Unless you are an “i”, then all is forgiven !
Check your words next time…before “trying” to act smart. X
Boys please play nice whilst everybody else is asleep. 😉
“ok @James, my problem , I just seem to filter out the noise (Mossad etc) without thinking.”
Dangerous game Mr Guy. Flanders will get you, SubCon see. He does that…until someone questions him.
Am I the spook !!! I think you need to check Flanders out for that…and his agenda ????
‘Night Guy, see ya tomorrow.
🙂
I’m off to bed too GuidoF 😉
11
Laterz all 🙂
Cheers ferret! 🙂
“everybody else is asleep”
I am 2ahead of you” on time that is. Depends where you are in the World of course !
@James
Are you seriously asking Anders how a military flight could fly out of an airport without logging flight plans, etc etc?
::puzzled::
@James
Also, are you seriously asking someone to go public and own up to leaking a D notice, so they can be prosecuted?
::puzzled::
Cheers Anders, sleep well!
😀
Flanders hates it…as he has not won one round yet.
The “D Notice” ???
The “flight of Mossad from LSGG” ????
Question him…and there is nada. He runs. I’ll out “The Sun” Journo yet.
But he is the one boys and girls.
@ little ‘j’ one day all the stuff that goes over your head will come down upon ye. sorry anders but james aint no spook as im sure he would have took the bait… when i was a kid i used to listen to radio luxembourg under the sheets. i guess kids these days post to forums with their ipads… where’s emperor rosco when you need him? 🙂
Ferret…or flanders !
A”lso, are you seriously asking someone to go public and own up to leaking a D notice, so they can be prosecuted?”
Its a fake. It never was.
But okay, I’ll play your game. So in which country will you be “prosecuted” pray tell ??? Purely out of interest ?
France ? Germany ? The UAE ? Spain ? Where ???
@James
You didn’t answer GuyF…
You didn’t answer me…
Your supposedly difficult questions for Anders are plain silly questions…
::rolleyes::
Oh, OK… I posted too soon.
In the UK if you leak a D notice you can be prosecuted, AFAIK.
The lack of coverage of any of the aspects of the purported D notice in almost all the mainstream media are indicative that it’s genuine. At least, to me, and several others here have mentioned that as well, as you probably have read. You are of course free to disagree but you can’t expect someone to come out and leak it publicly or they will be jailed.
Ah, you must be very old then !
That explains alot. Wife gone ? Kids gone ?
…and you still can’t grasp this “I” thing. I thought I told you about that.
“you can’t expect someone to come out and leak it publicly or they will be jailed.”
yes…. ask Julian 🙁
“The lack of coverage of any of the aspects of the purported D notice…”
I’ll stop you there.
It is enforse where ?
The U.K. ?
I agree James, although as I filter out the information I also ignore it. Have found over the years that it makes life easier, I also tend to ignore the loud ones, the “take you to one side ones” and the needy ones. Tend to concentrate on those that have a defend-able, structured argument in their approach.
on that note I’ll leave you all with an article from the Gruniad. Hopefully I’m 180 degrees out on this but a nice article anyway
American military scientists are developing a weapon which kills by delivering an enormous burst of high-energy gamma rays, it is claimed today.
The bomb, which produces little fallout, blurs the distinction between conventional and nuclear weapons, and experts have already warned it could spark a new arms race. The science behind the gamma ray bomb is still in its infancy, and technical problems mean it could be decades before the devices are developed. But the Pentagon is taking the project seriously.
The plans are getting under way at a time when the Bush administration is seeking ways to expand its arsenal of unconventional weapons, and could well fuel charges that Washington risks triggering a new arms race.
In May, Congress approved further research on a new generation of tactical nuclear weapons: bunker busters, designed to drill into underground shelters, buried beneath hundreds of feet of con crete, and so-called mini-nukes with explosive yields of less than five kilotons.
Critics say such research projects, though tiny by the standards of the Pentagon, risk igniting a new arms race. They also charge the administration with seeking to put in place the conditions to end a ban on nuclear testing.
According to New Scientist magazine, the gamma ray bombs are already included in the US department of defence’s militarily critical technologies list – a wish list of possible weapons technology that America considers essential to maintaining its superior firepower.
They would not have the awesome destructive power of nuclear weapons, but the energy emitted from a gamma ray bomb would be thousands of times greater than from conventional chemical explosives.
“Such extraordinary energy density has the potential to revolutionise all aspects of warfare,” the magazine quotes the defence department list as saying.
The device would not produce energy by triggering a nuclear fission or fusion reaction, like current nuclear weapons. Instead it would rely on the gamma rays produced when the high-energy nuclei of some radioactive elements decay.
Four years ago, scientists at the University of Texas in Dallas showed that it was possible to trigger this effect artificially. The possibility that this decay process, which usually takes place very slowly, could be accelerated and used in a weapon grabbed the attention of the Pentagon. Scientists at the Air Force Research Laboratory in New Mexico are studying whether this can be achieved.
Such weapons would allow military commanders to increase firepower without being forced to push the nuclear button. Experts have warned that if the US scientists succeed in building a gamma ray bomb, it could force other countries to start nuclear programmes, or worse, encourage those who already possess nuclear weapons to use them.
“Many countries which will not have access to these weapons will produce nuclear weapons as a deterrent,” Andre Gsponer, director of the Independent Scientific Research Institute in Geneva, told New Scientist. Just one gram of the explosive would store more energy than 50kg of conventional TNT. It would be as expensive as enriched uranium, but less would be needed for a bomb. Unlike uranium, it does not need a critical mass of material to maintain the nuclear reaction.
It would produce little radioactive fallout compared with an atomic explosion, but could cause long-term health problems for anyone breathing the particles in.
Opps ! Spelling !
It’s enforce where Mr ferret ?
The U.K. only ? Yje internet ? *they even got HRH’s d*ck published”
Tell me where this “D Notice” is and stop looking an arse.
Mr Guy….
Thanks for that.
But I already “have heard”…which again begs the question…if this was state sanctioned…taking the extreme, what are you going to do ?
We have a major fleet sat in The Gulf…and the US “waiting” to kick off with Iran.
This will be like no other bar fight in history.
…telling me what weapons they have will not help.
@James
I’m afraid it’s you who is looking rather “behind” on this one…
“you can’t expect someone to come out and leak it publicly or they will be jailed”
Quote…from a quote “Ask Julian”
Just makes you look an a**e.
I keep saying this…if you have it, then I am wrong.
BUT it can not be from “LOLLIPOP.ORG”>
It has to be REAL ! It’s as simple as that. What is the problem.
Not the weapons in the Gulf James, it’s the possible dirty weapons that the opposition may have. Or why did the massacre in the car park happen.