Drone Murder 222

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I had a half-formed post in mind to work on this morning, but then I read Glenn Greewald’s latest and concluded that if you are going to devote ten minutes of your day, nothing I could write would be as profitable as your reading him.

I would only add the obvious fact that Blair had already done to New Labour precisely what Obama has done to the Democrats; and that western “democracy” has lost its meaning because the institutionally entrenched parties offer no actual policy choice to voters, but are all neo-conservative.

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  • evgueni

    Ben F,
    yes – revolutionary change no less but I think as societies democratise revolutions become less violent. E.g. I understand in Germany there is majority support in parliament for the introduction of Initiative & Referendum rights at state level. Progress is blocked by the Christian Democrats but in principle this could change. Other places where Direct Democracy has taken root recently are Uruguay and Venezuela to name but two examples. More info on the web, a good source is Initiative and Referendum Institute Europe (IRI-Europe). As Victor Hugo allegedly said – there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. I’m feeling optimistic today šŸ™‚

  • Ben Franklin (Anti-intellectual Colonial American Savage version)

    Ev; Thank for direct responses to specific questions. It’s refreshing. Be careful about espousing the non-violent path, though. It’s not very appreciated here.

  • Jives

    “Disposition Matrix” eh?

    Well,it won’t happen tomorrow but,be in no doubt,soon enough,if this paradigm develops many posters on such sites as this will be in the crosshairs.

    You better believe it.

    Genuinely terrifying.

  • A Node

    A friend of mine has just built a hexacopter. Six rotors powered by a lithium battery that will keep it in the air for over 30 minutes carrying 1kg payload, probably about 20 km range. Arduino chip with onboard GPS, accelerometer, gyroscope and barometer controls stability and positioning.
    He uses it for aerial photography but you could give it a GPS position 10 miles away from you and have it release its cargo from a predetermined altitude.
    The mind boggles at the possibilities.
    They’ll ban them.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    Your welcome Evgueni –

    “we have to kill their children in order to protect our children” – thank-you for your kindness Craig. – “We have to murder a million to save the world” – clearly it is the same mind – the same set of conditioned thoughts as those who murder by proxy, remotely, detached; a game of death, a game of destruction where the pain is hidden, unseen – isolated by the aether, disconected by the mind.

    Those are the hands of death on the joystick – the ones that know not.

  • Commesick Commesark

    Practically speaking, the Savile dossier holding the names (and pics?) of the coprophiliacs,necrophiliacs & like in high places needs to be unearthed. Its powerful enough for lezi Bouden (and such in the upper echelons of the BBC) to have implored upon Peter Rippon to shelve any Newsnight revelations. It reeks of the complete and utter disdain of the chosenites for the goyim, especially the orphaned, mentally ill and even their dead corpses.

  • daniel

    We know that the use of drones by the US is counterproductive. So what is their pragmatic justification for continuing with the policy?

    The priorities of the US government appear to be the sublimation of humanitarian considerations with regards to both Pakistani muslim and American civilians, in favour of the overall attainment of geo-strategic imperatives.

    In other words, it would seem the US government regards the killing of civilians on both sides, as a ‘price worth paying’ in achieving these aims.

  • Jay

    English Knight.

    It is not about the quantity of ā€œyids and gaysā€œ im parliament, its the quality.

    If us Goyim showed a little more disdain on principles of morality then the said qualities of the quantities you highlight.

    So your point is relevant in terms that are not conducive to your point.

    So worry not.

  • Komodo

    Re. “Lord” B’Stard Bichard’s own community service:

    1: Directorships

    Non-executive Director, Parker Capital Limited (provides support services to public sector)
    2: Remunerated employment, office, profession etc.

    Adviser, Cronin Management Consultants (consultancy advising Fire Services)

    Adviser, Ten Lifestyle Management Limited (company providing concierge services to public and private sectors)

    Adviser, The Design Council

    Editor, Solace Foundation Imprint (publication concerned with public service issues)

    Probably has to go to the food bank for a meal….

  • Vronsky

    O/T

    In Craig’s recent BBC interview with Kevin Essler on the Assange business, I felt that Craig’s microphone had been turned down so that his contributions were (acoustically) weaker than those of the other speakers. It seems that this is becoming a standard BBC tactic to discredit uncomfortable opinions. The ruse of aggressive and witless interruption was also evident in Craig’s interview.

    http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/6117-no-campaign-blunders-over-eu-advice-as-bbc-faces-sturgeon-microphone-questions

  • Komodo

    Hostages to fortune, eh? If it goes down next quarter, it’ll be a triple-dip recession, lol.

  • John Goss

    Vronsky, I thought that in the Gavin Esler interview. It is quite clear by the very small number of invitations to participate in TV debates that such an influential commentator as Craig Murray gets, that the emphasis is heavily weighted against justice.

  • Mary

    A lesson in not answering a question. Yesterday’s PMQs.

    Debbie Abrahams (Oldham East and Saddleworth) (Lab):
    Can the Prime Minister explain the relationship between Virgin Care donations to the Tory party, the number of Virgin Care shareholders on clinical commissioning group boards and the number of NHS contracts that have been awarded to Virgin Care?

    The Prime Minister:
    All donations to political parties are properly disclosed and properly announced, but the difference, I have to say, between the donations that the Conservative party gets from individuals and businesses, and the trade unionsā€™ donations to the Labour party is that they effectively buy votes at the Labour partyā€™s conference and policies in its manifesto, and they vote for the Labour leader as well. The trade unions pay the money, they get the votes. That is the scandal in funding parties.

    A result. http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/wow-all-300-virgin-doctors-resign-from.html

    Two of the many previous links on the same site about Virgin/Assura

    BBC accept their report of Virgin Court case was “flawed” and now report that Virgin Childcare deal was “unlawful”

    Virgin Care have links to 80+ of the doctors on 21 of the new NHS Bodies created by the Tory NHS Bill.

  • Mary

    BBC headlines

    Viable Afghanistan ‘may not work’
    The UK might have to recognise that creating a viable state in Afghanistan is not achievable, an influential group of MPs says.

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    The Royal British Legion launches poppy appeal for 2012
    NEW 11 hours ago
    The Royal British Legion has launched this year’s poppy appeal with a target of Ā£42m.
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    No irony. Someone said yesterday on Radio 4 Today that the time has come round again for politicians to wear their poppies as a symbol of their own patriotic virility.

  • Mary

    I missed this one out.

    Two British deaths in Afghanistan
    25 October 2012 Last updated at 09:12
    A Royal Marine and a female soldier have been killed while on patrol in Afghanistan – the woman is the third who has died since the conflict began.

  • nevermind

    however nice one tries, in plain words to make it obvious that Craig has not got all the answers, one gets censored for doing so.
    Fine, its his blog and he can lie on it as long as he likes.

    Lashing out at those who posted here for a while will not make the following sock puppets go away, but a sign up policy and a working brief for moderators might just do it.

    Sock puppets below ‘R’us…..

    Golden Oldies, McVities Digestives, Wagon Wheels, Apple Pies, Malted
    Milk, Sock Puppet (!), Tea Cakes, Propaganda class #1, Lemon Puffs, WTC7
    Controlled Demolition, Jim’ll Dick It, War Dance, *** ***, ***War Dance,
    ***Popular Belief, ***Yeah yeah, whateverā€¦, ***Click Me (leading to page
    linked below), ***Crime against humainty, ***dn pĒssĒÉÆ ĒÉ¹É noŹŽ,
    ***Israel Is Goodā€¦., ***In the land of the blindā€¦., smelly pants,
    TwiterYeNot, lies enslave the mind, In 4 a penny in 4 a Ā£, Some
    Truth For You, Nest of Cryptos, Full Spectrum Dominance, Dave and
    Nick suck bankers cock, The bleeding obvious, slapper,
    GoodGrief, DWTSOT, Piss Princess, DownWithThisSortOfThing, Toodledoo,
    and Mark.

  • mike

    Savile dropping like a stone now on the BBC website. They’re clearly desperate to get rid of the story. Given the legs this is growing ā€”Ā pressure on Rippon from above, aide to former Prime Minister ā€”Ā this could do some real damage to the establishment. No wonder the corporation is running away from it. Instead, let’s revisit the Olympics, and how good it was for Britain…

  • Komodo

    What Nevermind said. And you might also consider turning this into a forum. Which won’t take any more moderation, and it’s easier to access topics. Many of which die prematurely under the present system. Also, use captcha for registration at least.

  • Dreoilin

    “What Nevermind said. And you might also consider turning this into a forum. Which wonā€™t take any more moderation, and itā€™s easier to access topics. Many of which die prematurely under the present system. Also, use captcha for registration at least.”

    Yes, registered email addies should cut out a lot of sock puppets and spam, and make life easier for mods.
    I think there are a number of free forums available?
    http://proboards.com/ comes to mind (because I’ve used it) but there may well be better ones out there, known by others.

    But what happens to Craig’s posts then? Does he carry on posting here and do reactions/comments go on the forum?

  • Komodo

    Yes, a bit facile of me, sorry. I think it should be feasible on a standard (eg Runboard) forum for Craig (and maybe mods) to make it impossible for us plebs to start threads, which would only be started by admin (with the possibility of readers’ requests by on-site messaging facility). Then posting could be opened to the general public. The Portrait of Our Leader would remain, and there could additionally be a set of forum rules as a sticky thread. Threads can be locked by admin if they ramble on too much. Going wildly off-topic would be easier to discourage, I think.
    There may be an issue with servers, however. Probably best not to have a US-hosted board…

  • Komodo

    One more thing – didn’t occur to me, but I think it’s a bonus. Some of us know each other’s email addresses, but by and large we can’t communicate readily with other posters. A message-board for registered users allows this without revealing email addresses. And puts like minds in touch.

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