Hillary Clinton is repeating the methodology of the Iran/Contra affair, using “black” funds to finance the operation to ensure President Correa is not re-elected.
I had two excellent sources for the news that the US/UK strategy against Julian Assange was to ensure the defeat of President Correa in Presidential elections next spring, and then have him expelled from the Ecuadorean Embassy. One source was within the UK civil service and one in Washington. Both had direct, personal access to the information I described. Both told me in the knowledge I would publish it.
Of course Assange is not the only reason Clinton wants rid of Correa; but it adds spice and urgency.
We now have completely independent evidence from Chile that this CIA operation exists, from journalists who were investigating a smuggling operation involving 300 kg per month of cocaine, organised by the Chilean army and security services.
The links to US intelligence emerged after an anonymous source from the Agencia Nacional de Inteligencia (ANI) told Panoramas News that the smuggling of 300 kilos of cocaine was in fact a highly sensitive CIA/DEA operation that would help to raise money to topple the government of Ecuador. The operation is similar to the one carried out by the Agency in Central America during the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980’s, the source said.
A few days ago I published information I had received that Patricio Mery Bell, the director of the news programme which broke the story, had been lured to a meeting with a young lady “informant” who had worked with CIA-backed anti-Cuban groups in Miami. She had then accused him of sexual assault (does any of that scenario sound familiar?) He was arrested and his materials had been confiscated. However I took the article down after jst a few minutes because I had received the information in emails from sources I did not know previously, and was unsure it could stand up. It does now appear that this is indeed true.
My Washigton informant had told me, as I published, that the funds for the anti-Correa operation were not from the CIA budget but from secret funds controlled by the Pentagon. This could not be done by CIA funds because, perhaps surprisingly, for the CIA to operate in this way is a crime in the United States.
Whether my informant knew or suspected that the “secret Pentagon funds” were drug money I do not know. They did not mention narcotics.
Hang Em
Prior to 1990 I seem to remember something called the Soviet Union. The plaque that said 4 million at Auschwitz was replaced with the current one as better information came to light on exactly where the exterminations took place with more western access to eastern Europe records after the fall of the USSR.
Census information existed for the Jewish populations prior to WW2. So I repeat where did they all go if they weren’t exterminated?
You are the one proposing a world wide conspiracy to invent the holocaust here.
Someone has pointed out that my nickname may be interpreted as referring to Jews. Well, I blush for not spotting that – it was a reference from another post about bankers a while back. Apologies for any confusion or offence this may have caused (unless of course you are a Zionist).
Jon, I’ve got £10 here that says there’s sock puppetry going on again…
It is interesting that stories and scare headlines screamed that a ‘holocaust’ of six million of just that same religious group had taken place during the first world war too. Copies and scans exist in libraries and repositories worldwide.
Many supply and troop ships crossing the Atlantic during ww2 didn’t make the return trips empty. Throughout and after ww2 the Zionists were only interested in getting trained fighting age young men into Palestine, to fight British troops there. Often paying leading Nazis huge sums and calculatedly surrendering, betraying far greater numbers to whatever fate dealt them.
Doesn’t help the Palestinians one bit that Zionism begat Nazism.
I second your proposal for a get together, Clark, If there were any practical way to attend.
My invite to any and all who would find it adventurous to visit Woody Creek, remains open, just as the Pond remains wide and separates me from y’all. You are right about the face-to-face. Just as people are more prone to argue vehemently from car-to-car, the stoplight seems to cool the acrimony.
Sometimes the blog gets stuck like an old LP of mine “thick as a brick”.
Same old lines from the same old.Bit of a Regev Rap.
Gaza is in focus and rightly so ! The red herrings piss me off too Clark.
Really don’t mind if I sit this one out !!
BBC’s Ben Brown in Ashdod feeding the right questions to Bliar in Tel Aviv on BBC News at the moment Bliar looking rather ropey. All his usual platitudes and even a reference to his sterling work in Northern Ireland, from him of course.
Gaza Under Attack: Update 19 November
Killed 103: including at least 13 children and countless women. Over 700 wounded. 1400 buildings bombed. Hospitals running out of space and supplies.
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Gaza, Israel and the Arab revolutions: why this time it’s different
John Rees, 16 November 2012 Palestine and Israel
The Gaza crisis shows that those among the Syrian opposition who have put their faith in the Western powers are now allied to the forces intent on murdering Gazans and sustaining Israel.
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and many other pieces http://stopwar.org.uk/
Yes, I’d like to meet Komodo too, the person who accused me of this:
“Looks like Technicolour has a lot of sympathy for the Israeli cause to me. Someone earlier noted the absence of hasbara posters here. Not so, I think.”
Find me one post, Komodo, in the years I have been posting, which suggests in any way that I support these barbaric actions. Just one. Or find me half a post. You can’t. You won’t.
Your repeated slurs are ridiculous. I have no idea why you think it is acceptable. I have no idea why you would even want to try it, or think it would be clever to get away with it.
And yes, I know Ben Franklin will support you – we can take that as a given – and I have no idea why that particular poster would object so virulently to my objections about hatred either.
Thank you so much, Cheeba Cow and Dreoilin, and Clark. To be accused of supporting war crimes, murder, is sickening. It is also a diversion. Once again we see inhumanity breeding rampant insanity, and once again the point is lost.
People are dying everywhere. In this case people are dying in pain and terror with support from our government and we are once again being forced into watching it. We need unity, not division. Komodo, if it ever occurs to you that you might -just might – be wrong, I will even buy you a pint, next time I am in London.
Yeah, Mary….Groundhog Day, except that movie has a happy ending. I’m not sensing anything except more Pillars, as what should be a cautionary tale, is just enabling behaviors.
“It’s Deja Vu, all over, again” Yogi Berra
I guess you could say these are emotional times. I’ve been posting on this site off and on for a couple of years (a newbie!) and I’ve got no real interest in slanging matches, unless it’s over a pint and you can see the cut of the other fellah’s jib. The online stuff is preening at a distance and I can’t really be arsed with that.
Here’s a thought that I think we should consider. America will be self-sufficient in oil and gas within a few years. It’s a phenomenal effort (using a dubious process, fracking) and it shows what a powerful country can do when it puts its mind to it. Given that, what will this do for the Middle East and the Arab Spring?
If Obama is remotely interested in a lasting positive legacy, encouraging genuine democracy in the Middle East could be it. He’ll be able to do so if America is no longer reliant on the tinpot theocrats. If so, this will obviously have huge repercussions for Israel. How will it respond? That’s the big question. If it continues with the same bully-boy tactics, then I would say the future looks bleak. If it grows up and starts actually supporting genuinely democratic movements then maybe it will be a brighter future for us all.
That’s my hope. And you gotta have hope otherwise you may as well be on a fucking drip.
Does anyone remember Labour’s plan for a database of all children (except those of MPs)? It was scrapped, yes? No, it was implemented:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/336721
@Clark
It would be a pleasure mate. Perhaps Jon will give you my email. Or shall we just post a time and place to meet? Even come round to mine for a pre-match coffee. I’m only a brisk walk away.
@Mike
Here’s an interesting fracking & democracy article:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175618/tomgram%3A_ellen_cantarow%2C_%22little_revolution%2C%22_big_fracking_consequences/
Phil, Do you trample on rights at home, or do you sanction brutal repression abroad?
Is that a tough choice, or a no-brainer? Which is the greater evil?
Anyway, good night, and may we all live to see another day. If there is a God, do us a favour, watch over Gaza tonight.
Mike: I wish I could share your optimistic view, but there is no sea-change I can see for Obama.
He is the Jackie Robinson of politics……..from the movie trailer;
Jackie Robinson- “You picked me because I would fight back?”
“We picked you because you wouldn’t fight”
I believe his ‘progressive’ bona fides arise from Michelle, largely, and her influence has it’s limits
IMO, he is reticent to display any outlier emphasis on Palestinians because he fears the re-emergence of the ideologues who insist he is, at best ‘Natural Born’ in his citizenship, and his Kenyan father, a socialist, disinvests his qualifications for POTUS. Why he still fears this after winning a second Term, is a mystery. He might have made a deal with the devil Bibi, that if the Israeiis refrain from mischief until after his election, he would (apparently, repeatedly, without remorse or reluctance) continue to support Israels right to defend itself, while ignoring the Palestinian right to defend.
Goodnight. A very sad day is ending as the number of dead now exceeds 100. Our thoughts are with those poor terrified people as they endure yet another night of horror.
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@Hang Em High:
I suggest you go to bed too, hang your arse out to dry, cause your argument is nauseating to someone who has smelt the bones and seen the ovens, you are an insult to your own intelligence by honking on like a dingo.
To argue the toss over numbers, ignoring that in those very times other genocidal excesses also happened, in Russia and China, makes you a bore, so take your spit to some dreadnought nazi site, why don’t you?
I hope you have a productive meeting Clark, who knows, Craig might be better now and join in.
Well said, Nevermind. There is a proverbial axe to grind, and when it is a singularity, it is verklempt.
Hi all. I agree that there is excessive discussion going on about the numbers of Jews killed during the Holocaust. It’s fair to say that the memory of that dreadful event is abused, and many a Western politician is bounced into supporting Israel for the guilt that the genocide went on for so long. As I said before, scientific examination of the Holocaust could perhaps be cautiously welcomed, but here (and right now) it serves no purpose other than to generate resentment against Jewish people generally.
In any case, the very current plight of the Palestinians is not aided even slightly with these questions, but diverting the conversation towards it makes it rather too easy to unfairly connect support for the Palestinians with the racist far right.
Accordingly – and in line with Craig’s stated policy – I will delete/edit items in this thread that primarily deal with this topic.
” I will delete/edit items in this thread that primarily deal with this topic.”
I assume your mean you will only delete comments following your post, Jon. If I could have my say, I think it is counter-productive to delete posts extant (unless they are egregious) and only delete those after your entry. Just an FYI, for context’s sake,
Phil, excellent. You can contact me directly. My screen-name by my avatar is a link to my contact page. Use the shorter of the two e-mail addresses.
The same goes for anyone else wanting to make arrangements for Saturday.
If anyone is interested, I could host contact pages like my own on my web-space.
I agree with your sentiment Jon but to re ask what i asked earlier: in the interest of balance and consistency and under yours and Craigs stated policy, will this general rule of thumb apply to dicussion/debate on all holocausts?
@ All – AN INDICTMENT AGAINST OBAMA – OR – RELEASE FROM THE PENITENTIARY OF GLOBAL HEGEMONY
Wearing my ophthalmological hat, I am about to prescribe a pair of spectacles for President Obama.
Wearing my psychiatric hat, I am about to certify Obama and take immediate steps for his confinement to an appropriate institution.
Now, don’t think for a moment that I am being either flippant or facetious. Far from it, I can fully defend the case I am about to lay out.
The Evidence
“Let’s understand what the precipitating event here that’s causing the current crisis and that was an ever-escalating number of missiles that were landing not just in Israeli territory but in areas that are populated, and there’s no country on Earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders,” Obama said at press conference in Thailand at the start of a three-nation tour in Asia.
“So we are fully supportive of Israel’s right to defend itself from missiles landing on people’s homes and workplaces and potentially killing civilians.”
The case
When a man presides over the raining of bombs on civilians in Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Iraq – just to mention some recent instances of unprovoked aggression directed against countries that have not issued any threat as nation state to nation state against the US, then his psychiatric condition comes into question.
When the same man fails to see that the use of force in the extreme is not the choice of normal, rational and sane persons, but is a choice of humans who are pathologically sick – then the targets that have been bombed can be seen as the sacrifices of very weak forces resisting occupation, intervention and/or aggression, so the spectacles for addressing both myopia and problems with long range focus does require an urgent and very special prescription.
But is there yet hope for an alternative diagnosis?
“Given Israel’s continued domination of the Gaza Strip even after its 2005 disengagement, the idea it is acting out of self-defence is meaningless,”
And what he called:-
“unconscionable and gratuitous assault”
Sorry for the ruse: Obama never actually said those words, but it was nice to think that he could have ( wasn’t it?)
Judge for yourselves and come to a fair and honest verdict.
CB
PS. If the fictitious words had been uttered, there then would have been need for a third medical approach for surgical intervention relative to corrective surgery of a buccal cavity which is leaking words from too many angles.
Folks, you may have thought it pedantic of me that whenever I reply to a comment, I start like this:
Nevermind at 20 Nov, 12:07 am…
But look at that comment by Nevermind; it now appears to be directed at Mary, but I think that it was actually a reply to a comment by a Holocaust denying sock puppet which has since been deleted.
There is so much scope for misunderstanding in the blog discussion format. I’m sure that many of the pointless arguments that we see here are in fact based at least pertly upon such misunderstandings.
Please. If you consider your comment to be worth submitting, presumably it is worth putting in the extra bit of effort to ensure that it isn’t misunderstood.
Or, failing clear expression….please give the comment the benefit of the doubt, instead of attacking it…..JMO
Hang ‘Em High – I’ve deleted eight items from you about the Holocaust. As I say, in theory it should be possible to subject this to very careful scientific treatment, but here it achieves nothing except perhaps linking our (generally) pro-peace and pro-talks views with genuinely unpleasant racism.
karel – I deleted one abusive item from you. I’m trying to be a bit more liberal here about deletions of posts that contain insults (after some commenters suggested the best solution is to ignore abusive posters) but that one to technicolour was definitely over the line.
Chris Jones – you asked whether I’d treat discussion of other holocausts in the same way. I guess if it was sufficiently diversionary from a topic as pressing as the attack on Gaza is now, then yes. However I’d be mildly of the view that analysis of other genocides is not as historically linked to academic justifications for racism, so my longer answer would be “not sure, I’d ask Craig”!
Komodo, I share your anger about current events, but you’ve been here long enough to know that Technicolour has never been a propagandist for Israel. Tech’s views about the difference between ordinary Israelis and their rapacious elite are much the same as a point I made to one or two posters earlier this year: there are many Israelis, within the Jewish faith and without, who are actively opposed to the occupation. IDF watch groups, human rights groups, refuseniks, objectors, socialists – probably a fair bit of their Occupy movements – and they are all despised by the masses a great deal more than anti-war protestors in the UK.
Ben Franklin, I normally do tend to leave posts “in play” if they have responses hanging off them. But here I’ve chosen to note above what I’ve deleted so that, although it makes for a slightly more puzzling historical read, it reduces the pressure on participants to respond to the off-topic stuff and accidentally assist the derailing of the thread.
Clark, definitely – if everyone used names and [blockquote] tags, stuff would be much easier to follow!
Wishing everyone here a peaceful night.
Duh. There’s me telling people to be specific, and I leave a glaring ambiguity in my own comment. See how easy it is?