Palestine and the Assange Test 193


Many congratulations to Palestine on being recognised as a non-member state at the United Nations. There is a distinct irony that, apart from the unreconstructed climate change deniers in the United States, Canada and the Czech Republic, the supporters of Palestinian genocide could only muster votes from the tiniest island states threatened by climate change. Where is the much vaunted American Empire now?

Both the United States and Israel are incapable of introspection; instead they have reacted by saying the rest of the world is mad.

There was also a chilling admission of the United States support for extreme zionist land claims, from Hillary Clinton, who called for negotiation “Between Jerusalem and Ramallah”. Not Tel Aviv; Jerusalem.

I argued a year ago that Palestine could join the International Criminal Court without waiting for this vote. But this vote certainly removes all doubt on that score.

I was absolutely disgusted by William Hague’s offer of support form Palestine if Palestine agreed not to join, or take cases to, the International Criminal Court. It is yet another example of that theme to which my writing constantly returns, the abandonment by neo-con UK governments of the principle of international law in favour of a might is right approach. It was always UK policy to encourage dispute resolution by international courts. Now we are discouraging it.

There is a very important practical point here. As I also wrote a year ago:

There is an extremely crucial point here: if Palestine accedes to the Statute of Rome, under Article 12 of the Statute of Rome, the International Criminal Court would have jurisdiction over Israelis committing war crimes on Palestinian soil. Other states parties – including the UK – would be obliged by law to hand over indicted Israeli war criminals to the court at the Hague. This would be a massive blow to the Israeli propaganda and lobbying machine.

This explains why Hague was so keen to avert Palestinian membership of the ICC. Not only can Palestine indict Israeli war criminals (and they should start immediately with those behind Operation Cast Lead and the attack on the Mavi Marmara) but Britain will be obliged – as will all other European Union countries – to hand them over to the court.

Given that this disgraceful government had specifically enacted legislation to block other avenues for the indictment of Israeli war criminals in the United Kingdom, this is infuriating for our zionist sponsored politicians.

It also raises an interesting point. We have seen the entire political establishment enthusiastically promoting the automaticity of European arrest warrants in the case of Julian Assange. How will those same politicians react to the automaticity of arrest warrants for Israeli war criminals? I suspect that they will suddenly discover there is a need for political intervention in such cases.


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  • DoNNyDarKo

    OT OEF or operation enduring freedom was supposed to be the Liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban.
    Panetta has just said that the US will have an enduring presence in Afghanistan.
    meaning ” enduring freedom ” in the spirit of Orwell = enduring presence = US army and Contractor Army OCCUPATION.
    Freedom is gone !

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    I see nothing compelling wrt Assange vis-a-vis Israel redaction or mistreatment of Manning.

  • Ex Pat

    DOWNFALL! – EXCELLENT ; )

    ‘Downfall’ of a US fascist Empire apparatchik, delightfully hoist on his own security surveillance state petard.

    And it couldn’t happen to a nicer illegal war, murder, torture-to-death, genocide, death squad implementing war criminal.

    Hard luck pal. Let the door hit you on the way out!

    – ‘Downfall!’ – “I should have listened to Julian Assange” – ‘Cypherpunks’ ad video –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMALsxxL6mI

    ‘Cypherpunks – Freedom and the Future of the Internet’ by Julian Assange and pals, – OR Books –

    http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/cypherpunks/

  • Ex Pat

    CYPHERPUNKS – ASSANGE

    1. Buy the damn book already! – apparently only available from the publisher –

    http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/cypherpunks/

    2. Watch RT’s Cyphyerpunks shows – 3 hours of Julian A and pals on video! ; ) –

    a. Cypherpunks uncut – Part 1 – 81:00 – The Julian Assange Show – 29th July, 2012 – RT –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i85fX9-sKYo

    b. Cypherpunks uncut – Part 2 – 1:59 – The Julian Assange Show – 29th July, 2012 – RT –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPebAr7ST-E

    3. See Democracy Now video –

    “It’s not easy to protect yourself. That is part of the problem. It really is not easy. It is, in fact, with some exceptions, something that is presently only open to extremely knowledgeable people.”

    – ‘Exclusive: Julian Assange on Wikileaks, Bradley Manning, Cypherpunks, Surveillance State’ with Amy Goodman – 30th November, 2012 – Democracy Now! –

    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/11/29/exclusive_julian_assange_on_wikileaks_bradley

    AMY GOODMAN: And as to, you feel, the—how people should use the internet today and protect themselves, as we wrap up with your book, Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet?

    JULIAN ASSANGE: Well, first, first, they have to—it is not always possible to protect oneself. You know, if you walk over the edge of a cliff, it’s not really that possible to protect yourself. But it’s important to know the cliff is there, so you can simply avoid doing certain things that would put you at risk. Now, the first thing they should do is go out and buy the book. It’s not easy to protect yourself. That is part of the problem. It really is not easy. It is, in fact, with some exceptions, something that is presently only open to extremely knowledgeable people. So, we must push forward to empower the greater development of this technology, the—preventing moves to outlaw it, which have been done—we fought a big war in the 1990s to prevent the outlawing of cryptography—and additionally, preventing the back-dooring of cryptographic technology. There are moves afoot to try and do that.
    I’m sorry—sorry, Amy, I’m getting the cut-off signal for some reason.

    – Ends before ‘back-dooring of cryptographic technology’ can be described, and before the “how to protect yourself?” question can be answered.

    “Funny how that works”, etc. No change there, then! ; )

  • Chris2

    Israel’s supporters in this matter fall into two categories. Most of them are states which are simply doing as they are told, often selling their votes, or abstentions for aid and donations to private bank accounts. So much for the honourable abstainers and No votes.

    Countries such as Canada and Australia are ruled by racists who recognise that Israel is simply doing what they have done: stealing land and ethnically cleansing the country, confining the last traces of the aboriginal populations to “reserves” and introducing the policies which so inspired Dr Malan who based his apartheid system on his understanding of Canada’s Indian Act and Australia’s White Australia policies.
    And the same is true, of course, not just of the United States but of Britain, from which all these states originated.
    Zionism is nothing more than Anglo Saxon colonialism writ small, another Rhodesia, an Orange Free State on the Med.
    Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is atrocious. So is Australia’s treatment of its aboriginal population, and, Canada’s treatment of, for example, the Grassy Narrows people in Ontario and the Lubicon Cree in Alberta.
    I was delighted to see that the scoundrels who run Canada did not add to their obloquy by pretending a concern for Palestine and its people. Native people here watch the Palestinian resistance with interest, for obvious reasons.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    “It is good that you acknowledge that there are different currents of thinking within Western thinking – and I am sure that the same applies on the other side of the equation. This is really where the chances for peace and compromise lie, rather than painting each side as black and white.” Resident Dissident, 11:59am, 1.12.12.

    I think that you cannot have been ‘resident’ on this blog for very long if that is something about my views that draws note. Nonetheless, I do thank you for making note of it. But what might be “Western thinking”? And what might be “the other side of the equation”? It’s an interesting structural analysis, where on the one hand, you seem to be saying that dualism is not an appropriate model, yet on the other, suggesting that it is the underlying (metaphorically mathematical) structure. But if you’re talking specifically about Palestine-Israel, not about the more global situation, then obviously that would make sense.

    Mediaeval France…? Me, I’m with the troubadours and the love-courts. The Lady Eleanor, rather than the Lion in Winter.

    As an aside, this is the sort of discourse one normally has with ‘Nextus’, who is an intellectual, experienced (in negotiation, possibly) and much-valued contributor to this blog. I am not an egg-head, but I do try to be a chef!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNfIn_msY4Y

  • nevermind

    How does one delete one’s FB account? I do not want to be associated with these hunts any more.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    BBC- Bungling Broadcasts for a Century.

    Bodacious Babbling Centipedes.

    Bukkake Brainiacs of Certitude.

    Holy Celtic Shite !!!!! What a clusterfuck of subsumed, reducto ad absurdum journalistic hemrorroids.

  • Ex Pat

    CYPHERPUNKS – ‘GOING DARK’ – JACOB APPELBAUM

    TOOLS

    Tools galore – Tor, Ubuntu, Debian, CD TAILS, Riseup.net, Adium, OStel, private GSM, Gibberbot, Etherpad, Crabgrass, JITSI and more. Crikey! –

    – ‘Leave your cellphone at home’. Interview with Jacob Appelbaum, by Sarah Resnick, 26th April, 2012 –

    http://nplusonemag.com/leave-your-cellphone-at-home

    Video. You thought that was detailed. You ain’t seen nothing yet. “Take baby steps.” “Online security is a lifetime task”.

    How do you eat an elephant? One teaspoon at a time!

    “More practical” – Jacob Appelbaum (Part 2/2) Digital Repression Workshop – April 26, 2012 – Youtube –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU

    “More theory” – Jacob Appelbaum (Part 1/2) Digital Repression Workshop – April 26, 2012 – Youtube –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoJ9pQ0cn8

    See Videos for detailed Contents and list of many, many more tools –

    STREWTH!

    The lives of Australian Wikileaks heroes – ready for anything! With the US Empire reptilian-brained Rarl Kove played by a crocodile.

    But it all ends well for the Aussie Battler. For the croc, not so much. He is, ER, stuffed. Literally. ; ) … And it couldn’t happen to a nicer US Empire (Neo-Con?) Nazi, you may think.

    Go Julian! –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hun2cvF33Pc

  • Mary

    In contrast, here she is with the wife of the prime war criminal with whom she is on first name terms. She even refers to ‘Tony’ within. I didn’t watch the other two interviewees, the chair of the Bank of America and an African from Sierra Leone, Director General of UNIDO, and who Badawi introduces as a likely successor to Ban Ki Moon. Good work Zainab.

    The chat with Cherie tells us nothing new. It is more like something out of Woman’s Own. A successful woman lawyer tells us how she made it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqwtLd8dBo

  • Mary

    LOL

    BBC presenter Zeinab Bedawi ‘will have to tear down £50k extension’
    Camden Council to order Mrs Badawi to remove loft conversion

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083756/BBC-presenter-Zeinab-Bedawi-tear-50k-extension.html

    But 12 days later she got her own way and Camden Council gave in. She kept her loft extension. See {http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/camden_council_under_fire_as_bbc_presenter_wins_loft_conversion_row_1_1181070}

    Perhaps she called in her friend Cherie!

  • Mary

    That cute little QC from Liberty, Shami Chakrabarti, ex Home Office barrister and an alunma of the British American Project is on Marr giving us all the inside info on Leveson. She was on his panel of course.

  • Heretic

    Wrong. Assange hasn’t exposed Israeli crimes and misconduct because if he did, he’d be dead already. That’s how Mossad works and everyone knows it. There’s nothing sinister about wanting to stay alive.

    So that’s your rebuttal to my assertion is it? Pretty pathetic, how about some facts next time?

    The greatest whistle-blower in the history of Israel is still living and breathing, I doubt Assange can come close to the revelations of Mordechai Vanunu.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    “Personally, I hope the Americans get hold of him, not least for the way he has treated the real hero of Wikileaks Bradley Manning.”

    “So that’s your rebuttal to my assertion is it? Pretty pathetic, how about some facts next time?”

    Heretic; It’s your assertion. You provide nothing except rhetoric to support it. Try a diet of factual worms to enrich the growth medium of your perspective before you chide others. A search for your allegation provided nothing except the links on my posts, above.

  • Dreoilin

    Quote:
    02/12/2012

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, today made the following remarks at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting:

    “The response to the attack on Zionism and the State of Israel must reinforce and underscore the implementation of the settlement plan in all areas in which the Government decides regarding settlement.

    These are not my words. These are the words of the government of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and this is the language of the Cabinet’s 1975 decision in the wake of the UN decision that equated Zionism with racism. Today we are building and we will continue to build in Jerusalem and in all areas that are on the map of the strategic interests of the State of Israel.

    The Palestinian Authority’s one-sided step at the UN constitutes a gross violation of the agreements that have been signed with the State of Israel; accordingly, the Government of Israel rejects the UN General Assembly decision.”

    http://www.pmo.gov.il/English/MediaCenter/Spokesman/Pages/spokestartUN021212.aspx

    He thinks he/they can reject whatever he/they like. Frankly I think the man is mad.

  • Dreoilin

    Ben,
    Accoding to Komodo, debka.com is not a reliable source. See further back in this thread.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    And this is the sort of thing that reinforces the fact that people like Lawrence Wilkerson – two interesting interviews with him, btw – have only limited leverage on US actions abroad. Attacking Iran is one thing, but ongoing hyper-militarisation of Israel is almost an article of strategic faith in the USA. They don’t give a monkeys about any UN General Assembly votes. The youtube one was from 2007, so a little out of date, but still interesting and relevant.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/30/u-s-military-taking-bids-to-build-israeli-air-force-complex/

    vanityfair.com/online/daily/2012/03/lawrence-wilkerson-middle-east-nancy-schoenberger-israel-iran-nuclear-weapons

    youtube.com/watch?v=K6cU4ohj-QE

  • alexno

    re Heretic 10.42

    “The greatest whistle-blower in the history of Israel is still living and breathing, I doubt Assange can come close to the revelations of Mordechai Vanunu.”

    One is Jewish, the other isn’t. That’s why Assange has to fear for his life, re Israel.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    “Attacking Iran is one thing”

    Suhayl; Bibi didn’t get his Christmas wish, so he ‘settled’ for Gaza. Obama’s gift of National Security welfare gives him more credibility. No doubt, Halliburton will receive the contract. It solidifies the breech between them, and succors the end-game. Win/win.

  • Ex Pat

    JACOB APPELBAUM – INFORMATION SECURITY

    BABY STEPS

    Q. Is there a manual or a website you can recommend?

    A. 1. The EFF has a ‘Surveillance Self Defense’ page. 2. The TOR project has good information.

    @ 5.50 – “More practical” – Jacob Appelbaum (Part 2/2) Digital Repression Workshop – April 26, 2012 – Youtube –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU

    1. EFF ‘SURVEILLANCE SELF DEFENSE’ page

    https://ssd.eff.org/

    2. TOR PROJECT

    https://blog.torproject.org/

    3. JOURNALIST SECURITY GUIDE

    “The Commitee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) maintains a great guide for reporters to survive dangerous situations appropriately called the Journalist Security Guide. This covers both offline and online situations.

    https://cpj.org/reports/2012/04/information-security.php

    From Tor – Scripps J School at Ohio University Trip Report – Posted November 13th, 2012 by phobos – TOR Project –

    https://blog.torproject.org/blog/scripps-j-school-ohio-university-trip-report

    STREWTH!

    The lives of Australian Wikileaks heroes – ready for anything! With the US Empire reptilian-brained Rarl Kove played by a crocodile.

    But it all ends well for the Aussie Battler. For the croc, not so much. He is, ER, stuffed. Literally. ; ) … And it couldn’t happen to a nicer US Empire (Neo-Con?) Nazi, you may think.

    Go Julian! –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hun2cvF33Pc

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