Talk of “round up the usual suspects”. Gary Glitter and Freddie Starr are not even low-hanging fruit for the Met, they are windfalls.
Jimmy Savile’s behaviour was evidently priapistic, and his predeliction for under-age sex, it is plain, was indulged continually in semi-public situations. The risk or exposure, or the thrill of his own incredible immunity, appear to have been part of the enjoyment.
I do not accept that there were two Jimmy Saviles; that one, the open pervert, only appeared when he was with the conveniently already discredited Gadd and Starr, and the other entirely respectable Savile was the friend of Royalty, senior politicians and public servants and entirely blameless in his behaviour. It seems to me much more intrinsically probable that the mutual indulgence of shared vices was the stuff of his friendships in both groups.
Savile’s elevation into the social elite brought him the immunity from prosecution for sexual exploitation that social elites always appear to enjoy. The “posh” part of Savile’s social circle continues to be protected, while Glitter and Starr will satisfy the public mood for revenge.
I am sure there is a great deal more to know than Glitter and Starr. I fear we shall never be permitted to know it.
“Komodo, you have to realise that someone who is no one, needs recognition, attention and our love….”
…yuk – rather self satisfied no
Habbakuk: troll. Effortlessly passes all the tests I have set it. Do not feed.
Just to turn away from the Savile trail for a second. Here’s Robert Wilson, MP for Reading, focusing the blame on the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19962696
Who the hell is Robert Wilson? Oh, yes.
http://racheleden.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/rob-wilson-jeremy-hunts-man-in-rdg.html
Remember Hunt? Murdoch’s man in the media ministry.
Mystic Komodo suggests; The investigation of Savile’s activities and friends will do as much damage to the BBC as can be arranged . Then it will quietly fade away.
Komodo, its already happening. This massive scandal is buried under more US election news, Denis the pennis MacShane is a ‘filler’. The BBC is colluding with the go slow of the police and somebody said that the witness wanting to talk to Cameron, will be arrested within a few days time.
Those mentioned will now keep a low profile for some time and more smothering will do the rest.
Lost of attentive stuff coming up, Syria Iran, our boys doing their stuff, the presidential elections next door, so much more valid and applicable to us than the wretched PPC elections, all good smothering stuff.
the BBC is guilty of covering up the Saville scandal, so is the police and those who failed to speak up for these victims, or were persuaded by whoever it may be, to shelf the inquiries and stop looking. This scandal will not go away, it will be the last straw that brakes the camels back, now people know what is going on and will judge their superiors by their cover ups and by their despicable crimes.
what a great future for elective policies. Should we not all go out to our local hustings and badger our PPC’s with this cover up, what they would recommend the current chief constables do?
Sorry did not want to make this too local, after all this is America, were the first two items on the news is the presidential erections, and then an item on how our Olympic rowers are already looking forward and preparing for Rio, what else could possibly matter in this country…
There is a concerted campaign by the BBC’s top public faces to smother this, tell us 100 times to walk on, nothing to see here.
Well, shit M. Dimbleby, I’m welded to the ground! so you best tell us what you know and what you’ve heard. We all know your questions are not random and that your programme is made up, prepared and choreographed, just as you are.
Of course there is always the very high possibility that the BBC,as well as being seemingly rotten and corrupted, is being deliberately destroyed from within – a cruel double blow ey?
Marcus –
Independent 3 Nov:
Sir Winston Churchill: Zionist hero
Jews hold strong views about the man honoured by a new statue in Jerusalem, says Catrina Stewart
“As a passionate Zionist all his life and a philo-semite, Churchill has been under-recognised,” says Anthony Rosenfelder, a trustee of the Jerusalem Foundation, which is behind the project to commemorate the British leader. He “combined a historical understanding of the Jewish people and what the promised land meant for Jews … with realpolitik”.
It is perhaps ironic that a statue of Churchill should stand just yards away from the King David Hotel, scene of a deadly Jewish terror attack on British military headquarters in 1946 that was to hasten the demise of mandate rule in Palestine…
Newly declassified MI5 papers reveal that in 1944, the British feared that the Stern Gang, a Jewish terrorist group determined to oust the British from Palestine, was plotting to kill Churchill, as well as the unpopular politician Ernest Bevin.
In the end, it was not Churchill who died, but his close friend Lord Moyne, who was assassinated by the Stern Gang in Cairo in November 1944. Mr Segev writes that the bloody act “lost the Zionists one of their most important supporters, Winston Churchill”.
In an address to the House of Commons, Churchill made clear the depth of his dismay: “If our dreams for Zionism are to end in the smoke of assassins’ pistols and our labours for its future to produce only a new set of gangsters worthy of Nazi Germany, many like myself will have to reconsider the position we have maintained so consistently and so long in the past.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sir-winston-churchill-zionist-hero-8277918.html
Global Elite Pedophile Ring – 10-26-2012 – Top Dutch Official Facing Child Rape Allegations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDVyQe_hJ4k&feature=player_embedded
Now screen legend Leonard Rossiter is accused of performing a sex act while watching three BBC staff try to rape 18-year-old TV extra
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227171/Screen-legend-Leonard-Rossiter-accused-performing-sex-act-BBC-staff-tried-rape-18-year-old-TV-extra.html
@ Jives (6.10pm). That screed must have been exhausting to write. But perhaps less exhausting than to read.
You wrote (I shall retain your original text) “Dont tell me what posts i should or shouldnt react or respond to. Or how i should be responding”.
I wouldn’t dream of doing so, dear. I merely note your deafening silence in the face of “ugly” suggestions about Prince Charles (to take just one example) whereas you fall over yourself in your haste to attack me for an “ugly” post regarding Mary.
You are certainly gutless. Are you shameless as well?
Kabbabkuk,
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz…troll…youve been sussed by many more than me already.
Back on topic all.Far more important.
We will all know you by your slavish disruptive ignorance,dear.
Reading about dear old Leonards supposed… offence , i was again wondering what in curses has been going on.
I think we are trying to get to grips with the most torrid part of the ‘oldest industry’ – the sex industry. An industry ever secretive and criminalised, which trades in the most urgent and passionate and unreasoned of instincts. An industry which the hedonistic rich have always arranged as much as the nihilistic poor.
Sex is always beyond rationality, even done clinically it is absurd -to think there is a default, normal way to it. The normal ways are as organic and as contrived as the theatric, athletic, casual, sloppy or the extra-meaningful and every other way. Sexual behaviour is a kaleidoscope of expression, where roles are played knowingly, half knowingly and blindly. It is often bigger than us. It will often drive people to fault, crazy mistakes, crimes of passion, as it can drive people to live together and create life too.
But since it has its dangerous, harmful possibilities, never fully controlled by reason – The criminalisation of its industry leads to this corruption in high places where it is as irrepressible as it is anywhere. That industry might mostly consist of consenting, role playing adults, but they all must hide from prosecution. That irrepressible criminal society exists already, has done for a long time, with them all hiding in corridors of power as much as in slums.
Within that society is hiding the worst of its colours, the child users, and the bullies of the truely vulnerable which criminalistion happens to increase -peoples vulnerability.
I dont want to partake in prostitution myself. But i think the general criminalistion is part of the situation which has created a supersecretive harbour for the sickest and most harmful permutations of sexual activity.
If our populations newly interknit awareness of the unanimously intolerable, terrible harm of sexual abuse can manage to erradicate it – not only would countless children and people be relieved of their horrors, the corruption of war and hunger will have its connections caught and be isolated too.
We need to get behind people/organisations who can really act on this.
is tom watson playing tavistock games that is the question.
asking questions about kid fiddlers under thatchers reign.
sent his blog an email but he does not want to put it up.
“I don’t think anyone questions, Mr. watson, that you’re working hard. Our question is who you’re working for? the fact you are chasing 1980s shadows is proof enough for me of your intentions. mr watson this year some of your work mates have raped children. why is the d notice being used to cover the tracks of paedos today and under blair. everything you are saying at the moment is smoke and mirrors..
PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the–let it hang out, so to speak?
DEAN: Well, it’s, it isn’t really that–
HALDEMAN: It’s a limited hang out.
DEAN: It’s a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It’s a modified limited hang out.
PRESIDENT: Well, it’s only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.
@ Habbabkuk,
Sorry darling,i meant to post this on on the previous riff but it’s worth repeating.
You were suspect for a while.You failed,not just Komodo’s basic troll test,but alot of ours.And that’s OK,dear.
You dont think for a moment I really meant that post at 6.03 pm did you?Perish the thought.’Twas merely a gambit to test your reactions and bona fides.You failed,predictably enough.You bit,so to speak.
You’re not very good at this trolling,dear,are you? Now run along to your shift supervisor for your next… strategy.
BTW,dear,this is the arse end of this thread.I’ve got as long as it takes to entertain your guff.As long as you’re here as a sucker troll it means you’re not on the other posts sullying them.
We,also,here,have tactics to find the silly ones out.
And you fell for it.Sucker.
Night night poppet.;.)
low hanging strange fruit of the i love the 70s.
that is the frame.
weird stuff happened in the i heart the 70s.
today all kids are safe always protected when in danger they use mobile phones to call mom and dad yes no.
paedo rings in westminster,in the law courts and in the police well that sounds like a bad reject script for a 1980s channel 4 series.
thank god we live in much more caring times i say.
tony blair and david cameron have so much empathy and humanity that they would do everything possible to protect the children.
the monsters gary glitter and freddy starr are spielberg like dinosaurs reanimated from another century the filthy dirty 70s.
they need to be handed over to peter mandelson and put away for life in an nspcc childline nonce facility.
Thanks Oddie.
On a different note: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll etc
That troll test must be pretty cleverly worked out as this whole site could be a troll security operation, surely? Since no one ever responds to what I write (apart from Oddie just now) I’ll clear this up for you – I don’t think the illuminati, lizard people etc are involved.
Can it get any worse for the BBC? Tax dodging for Savile exposed now.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/356006/Rolls-Royces-Jimmy-Savile-abused-children-in-were-BBC-gifts-
Hi Marcus dont feel unappreciated, i41 mostly agree with your comments and follow them rather than replying.
btw I think that quote about Winston Churchill is electrically charged but in all likelyhood completely made up. There is a represssed school report of his spoken of, but i could find no indications of its actual existence anywhere, never mind its authenticity.
Im looking at Tom Watson hopefuly now. This issue could be as big as stopping War.
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2012/11/10-days-that-shook-my-world#comments
@Marcus, Thatcrab
I recall reading a similar thing about churchill. I seem to recall that it refered to his tastes as a younger man – possibly about chasing other pupils. Although I cannot recall where I do seem to recall it wasn’t impressively sourced and I wasn’t interested enough to look further.
I like the sound of Mr Towler, Children’s Commissioner for Wales, who backs a new inquiry in Wales.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20196086
Also Mr Peter Garsden from the Assocation of Child Abuse Lawyers who is on the case. Not just celebrities involved, he said. He is obviously profiting from the fees but he appears to care deeply. He has been speaking on BBC News.
{http://abuselaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/public-enquiry-for-north-west-abuse.html?spref=tw}
We know about Tom Driberg. Isn’t this an odd remark? As if pederasty has good repute?
‘He is the man who brought pederasty into disrepute.’ (Referring to Tom Driberg)
http://www.tensionnot.com/jokes/one_liner_jokes/winston_churchill_funny_quotes
The minimum of info.
http://www.eib.org/infocentre/events/all/board-of-governors-2012.htm
Check Ref No 1 on the Wikipedia page!
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Investment_Bank}
How about the logo? Did they get a chimpanzee with a paint brush and two tins of paint to do it?
Sorry the above should have been on the EU thread.
Mary i commend your rare intention to find the relevant thread at least 🙂
Thankyou for growing the list of good guys to support for this one with Mr Towler and Peter Garsden.
Here is another one from the many chinese churchill whispers: “There are a terrible lot of lies going around the world, and the worst of it is half of them are true.”
-For all his various drunk and inspired quips, anything could be made of the character. I just dont know, it is a bit long ago to make sense of in 2012. Rather mythologoical.
Jives : four sails to the wind at 2am last night? Hope you’re OK again this evening.
This pdf was put up here the other day. It takes some time to read through and there are also videos of the TV programmes made about the case which I have not watched.
It is a terrible litany about a 14 year old daughter who was being sexually abused by a group of men and who was taken away from her home and her concerned parents by the state social services and the legal system there after the tried to have the men charged.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/90768539/Our_experiences_on_discovering_our_daughter_was_victim_of_sexual_crimes_in_NZ.pdf
I have every sympathy for the parents. Their son committed suicide. Two of the abusers who were employed by the NZ version of St John’s Ambulance have received medals from the Governor General. He is also the titular head of St John which sounds to be both creepy and masonic. He is referred to as the Prior and the HQ is a Priory!
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_New_Zealand}
‘St John releases an honours list annually, sanctioned by the Queen, with honours awarded on merit to candidates who stand out from their peers. The 2011 Honours will be presented by the governor-general, who is the head of St John in New Zealand, at two investiture ceremonies in 2012.’
It is both a shocking and very sad story as there has been no contact between the daughter, who is now adult, and her parents, since she was taken away from them. They eventually decided to leave NZ and are now in the UK.
Background – investigatemagazine.co.nz/Investigate/?p=2273
thatcrab
do not bother with tom watson.
he is captured they all are amazing what control you can have when you have video,audio and foto.
tom watson needs to be called out as a scum bag.
many people have been sending him information about rape in the last 5 years not in the ffing 1980s he has done nothing.
a fat windbag distraction merchant that only allows lovely positive words about himself on his pox of a blog.
the rise of the blog in part was a reaction against the lies and spin of the controlled msm.
and all along they where just the same bullshit smoke and mirrors.
PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the–let it hang out, so to speak?
DEAN: Well, it’s, it isn’t really that–
HALDEMAN: It’s a limited hang out.
DEAN: It’s a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It’s a modified limited hang out.
PRESIDENT: Well, it’s only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.
@ Habbabkuk,
‘Fraid not guvnor.At1.30 am,last night,id just finished 14 hours in A and E.
Sorry to disappoint you.
@ Jives. Are we supposed to applaud? Judging from your tone yesterday, I’m glad I wasn’t one of your ‘customers’, I might have been in mortal danger. Hope you weren’t working on your own!
Anyway, best if, next time, you went home and had some sleep and left the blog for the next day.
Cheeers, laddy.
Some background on the late Cyril Smith MP, see also Private Eye this week.
http://griffinwatch-nwn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/more-on-establishment-paedophile.html
Never mind N. Wales…or, rather, mind it too, but isn’t Rochdale beginning to look like something of a hotspot?
Oh, and Griffinwatch? I know. It carries the full original RAP article – no other reason. You don’t have to read the comments.
Jives – as good an excuse ive ever read for a spot of late night troll feeding, but you see how it is only egging for more ^^
@ Thatcrab.
Lol…indeed. Im happy to out-troll the troll though.Its not going very well for our dear Habbabkuk on this mission is it?
“laddy”?? LOL