Uzbek Cotton Slavery Campaign 1094


I am delighted that a new canpaign has started today against the state enforced child slavery in the uzbek cotton industry, especially as this campaign originates in Germany, where a significant portion of society appears to have finally woken up to the reality of the German government’s appalling complicity in the Nazi style regime and atrocities of Karimov.

However in the UK it remains the case that since the coalition government came to power, there has not been one single government statement on the human rights atrocities in Uzbekistan or – even more damning of our sham democracy – one single statement or question from New Labour.


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  • Habbabkuk

    @ Mary : OK and thanks for explaining the origin of the phrase. So I’m happy to withdraw my thought and absolve you of the reference I suspected. Having said that : since Werrity has disappeared from the public eye, why do you keep mentioning him? I should have thought you’d be glad he’s vanished and leave it at that, without reminding us continually that he has vanished?
    PS “pathetic little dig” – worse than yours about one of Obama’s daughters yawning at her father’s inauguration?

    @ Giles : learn to read more carefully! I didn’t accuse you of those beliefs, I suggested that at least some of the anti-EU public figures might have them.

    @ Nevermind : I think that if you refer back to the relevant thread, you’ll see that whereas Habbabkuk was silent, several members of this blog’s “community” were busy making sly little suggestions about homosexuality. Shame on your short and selective memory!

    @ Fred “Now pack it in or I’ll get insulting” : what’s new?

    So, having now routed you all once again, I shall go and read some Proust and touch base with the real world.

  • Jives

    Yair Lapid as Israel’s Kingmaker then…

    Interesting.

    The rejection of the bellicose Right by the middle classes will have curious consequences.

    Perhaps even a reduction in hasbara budgets;where those disingenuous Bad Faith keyboard warriors may even have to return to their old call centre jobs.

    The Emperor has been told that he has no clothes.

    About time.

  • nevermind

    ‘The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.’

    Proust has a lesson and quote for all of us, he is very good and I used to find quiet and contemplation before my weekly practise, it is very good control over once own grief is even better.
    I feel for you Habbakuk, your heart is weeping like an overripe pear.

  • Mary

    Rich Wiles is from the North of England. For many years he has lived and worked in the Lajee Centre which is based in the Aida camp in Bethlehem. Over 5,000 Palestinian refugeea live in cramped conditions on 0.71 sq km of land. The Wall is right up against the buildings whicg are many storeys high now. The kids playing on the balconies get shot up by the IDF. He teaches the children photography and film making and brings small groups to this country and elsewhere where their work is displayed in exhibitions. A good young man and he has now happily married a Paletinian girl.

    About AIDA camp http://www.unrwa.org/etemplate.php?id=104

    He has just released this moving little film (18 mins) about a Palestinian village now cut off. There is a quiet beauty in the film which belies the horrible life that the villages now lead. He has also produced a book called Generation Palestine.

    The link was sent by Sonia Karkar from Australians for Palestine who wrote –

    This is a book worth getting for anyone wanting to gain an
    understanding of the Palestinian call for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
    against Israel’s apartheid policies and practices. Its editor, Rich Wiles
    has gathered contributions from a diverse group of activists, writers,
    lawyers, artists and academics who have all encountered the usual arguments
    against boycotts and have answers to counter them based on international law
    and simply a people’s human right to resist their oppressors. Whether you
    are strongly for or against the rights of Palestinians, or even ambivalent
    about them, you owe it to yourself to become more informed about one of the
    burning issues of our times from a side that is rarely heard in our mainstream
    media or from our political leaders. These are human issues that affect us all.

    You may also wish to watch Rich Wiles’ latest documentary film
    “The villagers on the line” (Click on the link below):
    http://www.ongoingnakba.org/en/west-bank/jerusalem-district-wb/battir/battir-v1.html .
    It is heartbreaking to see ordinary people face such a hopeless future for themselves and their families.

    Generation Palestine:
    Voices from the Boycott, Divestment
    and Sanctions Movement

    Edited by Rich Wiles
    Foreword by Archbishop Desmond Tutu

    Description

    The unique model of apartheid, colonisation and military occupation that
    Israel imposes on the Palestinians, along with myriad violations of
    international law, have made Palestine the moral cause of a generation. Yet
    many people continue to ask, ‘what can we do?’

    Generation Palestine helps to answer this question by bringing together
    Palestinian and international activists in the Boycott, Divestment and
    Sanctions (BDS) movement. The movement aims to pressure Israel until it
    complies with International Law, mirroring the model that was successfully
    utilised against South African apartheid.

    With essays written by a wide selection of contributors, Generation
    Palestine follows the BDS movement’s model of inclusivity and collaboration.
    Contributors include Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Ken Loach, Iain Banks, Ronnie
    Kasrils, Professor Richard Falk, Ilan Pappe, Omar Barghouti, Ramzy Baroud
    and Archbishop Attallah Hannah, alongside other internationally acclaimed
    artists, writers, academics and grassroots activists.

    About The Author

    Rich Wiles is Coordinator of International Relations at Lajee Center in Aida
    Refugee Camp, Palestine. He is a photographer, writer and activist whose
    work has been exhibited internationally and featured in the British Journal
    of Photography and the Times Educational Supplement. His books include
    Behind the Wall: Life, Love & Struggle in Palestine (2010) and Flying Home
    (2009).

    I have mnet him a couple of times. He is lovely and really cares about the children and their futures.

    It says it all that the b……s have hacked into Lajee’s website.
    Lajee Center
    http://www.lajee.org/
    Lajee Center. Lajee Center (‘lajee’ means ‘refugee’ in Arabic), was established in Aida Refugee Camp in April 2000 by a group of 11 young people from the …

    About us – Gallery – Activities – Introduction

  • nevermind

    ‘Got a stinking cold, should read it is very good, control over once own grief is even better.’
    Hot toddy and bed me thinks.

  • Villager

    Macky, the UN talk was deliberately like an executive brief. Even though it was profound in itself our lazy minds and preconceptions would not allow for any of truth to ‘sink in’ deeply. For someone else’s discovery of a truth to become part of mine, i must either think it through for myself and/or, as is possible with K, to listen so purely and with such complete clarity so that it reaches one’s ‘inner ear’ and becomes part of one. If that takes place and one sees the actual fact of it, not comparing with what someone else has said (mere measurement), not judging whether one likes it or not, agrees with it or not, but simply seeing the truth of something; then that ‘seeing’ changes the intrinsic structure of the brain in order to yield a different intelligence. Mere, ordinary listening is just an intellectual process and even if it is stored in the brain’s memory, doesn’t actually alter the intricate structure of the brain. And therefore, the fragments remain, rather than becoming whole, holistic.

    Questioning terms therefore becomes very important so that not only does one trace matters to their fine roots but also, a complete context of the aspect being explored/investigated/discussed is necessary for the fullness of communication to take place. Only then can an understanding be reached rationally not just between two people but actually as an action within my own brain, my heart, my being.

    K is by no means easy (as opposed to tough) going. First of all our brains are cluttered with ‘knowledge’/beliefs and hence inherently prejudiced- -it isn’t easy to set a lifetime conditioning aside. Second, he isn’t spoon-feeding you with theories and philosophies or anything, so you actually have to figure it out yourself real-time or otherwise. Thirdly, his (brain+heart=) mind (my simplification) was unquestionably, perceptibly and radically different from the ordinary human having either been born that way or having undergone a radical psychological revolution in his younger days. No point in speculating how he got ‘there’ but that is where he was, and so our lazy brains really need to fire up in order to ‘get it’, whether from him or our own insight or that whole movement as one.

    Not willing to do this, most of us will turn to religion (with or without a guru, and, note how fashionable Budhism has become), nationalism, or some other ‘ism, ideologies, alcohol, drugs, etc etc–any number of escapes. I just want to be free, but realise there is no backdoor to heaven. And so the tough-going of study, self-study, awareness and self-knowledge.

    Humanism, i don’t understand the word or its ideology. My brain won’t go there but i fear that if one is drawn into that ‘ism one is already a flawed human being. Why does one need to invent humanism in order to function harmoniously, compassionately with my species. Is my dog thinking of dogism? Or the butterfly of butterflyism? I reject it and say i will find out for myself.

  • Villager

    Mary:
    “You may also wish to watch Rich Wiles’ latest documentary film
    “The villagers on the line” (Click on the link below):
    http://www.ongoingnakba.org/en/west-bank/jerusalem-district-wb/battir/battir-v1.html .
    It is heartbreaking to see ordinary people face such a hopeless future for themselves and their families.”

    Mary thank you for that link. Very moving indeed. Incidentally the inspiration for my name is The Unknown Villager, just like these good people of the Earth portrayed in the documentary. It is time we stop every war and time we stop consigning our youth to become Unknown Soldiers. What a barbarous lot we human beings are.

  • Villager

    Craig/Jon (mod),
    Particularly, in light of Runner77’s comment earlier, do you want to encourage, comments like the one at 8.36pm repeated below:

    “A brief comment on Mary’s post at 18h17, above, and through this, perhaps, a hint as to why I occasionally have to chastise her ”

    What an arrogant little prick you are.

    You are the lowest of the low, I wipe better than you off the bottom of my boots, you ain’t in any position to chastise anyone Sunshine.

    Now pack it in or I’ll get insulting.”

    He will use the P word at the drop of a pin, and worse, is uncouth enough to brashly proceed so while apparently appearing in defence of an esteemed lady commenter. He is obviously unhinged enough to not have his bearings as to whether he’s in a boys’ locker room or at a respectable blog.

    I fear Runner is right, we may have lost some very respectable commenters, and perhaps readers, because of this cheapening that’s taking place.

  • glenn_uk

    @Giles: I fear you have completely misunderstood my post about Cameron’s latest wheeze on having a referendum. Far from calling all “EU-out” supporters lunatics, I was explicitly referring to the far-right europhobes among Cameron’s own ranks. That seemed pretty obvious to me, and my thanks to Habbabkuk for pointing this out earlier.

    Indeed, my post was actually judgement neutral on the merits of whether we do stay or leave the EU.

    But you bring up an interesting point, nonetheless, when you say “You’ve gone for two really cheap and pathetic insults there, but by your own reckoning the majority us wants out, so you’ve only revealed your contempt for the democratic will of the British people.

    It’s interesting, because it’s an extremely valid question – should the democratic will be upheld, no matter what? Such a move would, for instance, immediately bring back public executions. Flogging, hanging, summary justice – they’d all be reintroduced. Science and reason would go out of the window in favour of “common sense” notions, but in the main we’d be ruled by the purveyors of mass media and entertainment. Murdoch would end up deciding nearly all of public policy, to a far greater degree even than now.

    The people’s view of Europe is largely coloured by the “Europe = Bad” drip, drip, propaganda that has been pumped relentlessly for decades – much of it utter falsehood and gross distortion. The good that the EU does is rarely if ever mentioned in the popular press. And the proprietors of these publications are very often the self-same swivel-eyed little-Englanders that I mentioned. Or wouldn’t you agree?

  • glenn_uk

    Ah – I don’t like to reply to myself to correct typos, but earlier I’d written “this is just a cynical election ploy to appease his swivel-eyed little Englanders”.

    My words aren’t so important the need fine polishing, but it’s obvious why Giles considered this an insult to Eurosceptics.

    It should have said something along the lines of, “… this is just a cynical political ploy to appease the swivel-eyed little Englanders in his own party.”

    By “his”, I meant those directly in Cameron’s concern. Not “the”, and certainly nothing wider.

    @Giles – I hope you can see now the original meaning. But you have demonstrated rather well that you guys can get a bit touchy on the subject 😉

  • Clark

    I’m just back from the vigil for Julian Assange outside the Ecuadorian embassy. Apparently, there were twenty eight of us supporting him against extradition. Of the pro-extradition party, only two arrived, so I was told. I only saw one, with whom I and others had a good debate, though the pro-extradition arguments were very familiar. Extraordinarily, this pro-extradition advocate refuses on principle to read any of the evidence that so strongly suggests that the case against Assange is a political fabrication!

    It was good to meet Arbed, of whose razor-sharp mind I found myself particularly envious. During my journeys I spoke to three members of the public; all stated their belief that the case against Assange is a political ploy.

    At Liverpool Street station I found that I had missed my train to Ingatestone by two minutes, causing me a wait of nearly an hour. Once home, I cleaned out my nostrils, and as usual after a visit to London they were full of black soot.

  • Cryptonym

    @Glenn_uk: I reckon direct democracy being truer and better than the present state of affairs – corruptible and corrupt trough-led representative democracy, fealty to despotic foreign powers, a domestic economy ravaged by capital flight/theft, wide and growing inequality, mediocre public services and infrastructure – that a case for some far alternative is strong.

    I cannot see however that the opinions and determination of policy can ever be taken out of the hands of the mass of the people, nor can I see that quickly getting this grasping EU remorseless power grab resolved for the forseeable future, opens the door to mob rule.

    This hanging/flogging argument comes up all the time, but seems to ignore that we may have worse evils, such as the Iraq death toll to contend with in this affront to democracy we toil under now; a people would not volunteer their sons and daughters under most conditions to take part in such a slaughters, even at minimised physical risk such are a moral morass.

    All your issues are resolved by two simple easy uncontroversial immutable preconditions:

    The state cannot take the life of its own or other citizens.
    A non-profit democratically controlled non-partisan press is established.

    Others no doubt would recommend themselves, such as economic self-sufficiency (energy, food) and protection first and foremost where possible, not impractical flawed free trade theory. There is no holy writ that we must compete in everything, it is just exhausted discredited dogma that fails us utterly. Modest profit on capital investment is possible entirely within a domestic market setting, no need either for consumerism, built-in obsolescence, shoddy goods or artificially for the necessities, diversions and comforts of our lives.

    The wholly imaginary Europe = bad drip drip propaganda is bad drip drip propaganda –the truth is that the EU has been nauseatingly eulogised in a 40 year long tsunami of apologia.

    The countries of Europe have ever and still will trade their surplus manufactures and specialisms, it doesn’t need a sovereign remote bureacracy and larval militaristic superpower, only co-operation in minimum standards of environmental and public safety and setting common sense conventions and standards such as truck axle widths and railway gauge.

    Why this EU which locks us in tighter still, deathly gripping all that has failed, the epic wrongs and wasteful, failed gluttonous capitalistic excess that has the people despairing and the closed biosphere, our life support sytem despoiled and imperilled.

    We’ll all continue to get along – the varied peoples of Europe – will be much happier, enjoying life again, freed from this vast human-grinder, that we’ll be closer still without the EU than with the false bonhomie this smothering assimilating behemoth commands.

    It has had the benefit of the doubt, we can no longer ‘wait and see’ and if things do not stop getting any worse, have a think about it, it cannot be rescued from deserved oblivion.

  • Cryptonym

    should read “… shoddy goods or artificially high prices for the necessities, diversions and comforts of our lives.”

  • Mary

    Thanks for your response Villager to that little film and the explanation of your name here.

    One of my favourite poems was written by Mike Odetalla who is a Palestinian now living in Illinois.

    What Benefit or Joy if ……….
    By Mike Odetalla

    What benefit or joy if,
    I were to gain the world,
    But lose the almond blossoms in my land?

    Drink a cup of coffee, everyplace
    But my mother’s home
    Journey to the moon,
    But not to the graves of my ancestors
    See the world’s wonders,
    But not the setting sun as it dips behind ancient olive groves
    Tour the world over,
    But lose the flowers on the hills of my native land
    Nothing but lethal silence.

    No need to gain the world
    Just a cup of coffee
    In a familiar place and
    An end to the lethal silence

    Within the hearts of the living.

    Mike Odetalla, thinking of spring in Palestine!
    27th March 2005

    and a response from Micky Longum
    And I ask myself
    when
    or why
    did I build this wall?

    When
    or why
    did I uproot your almond trees
    and demolish
    one house
    another house
    and many many more?

    I told them all
    it was to defend myself.

    But what is there to defend
    if I can’t drink a cup of coffee
    in your mother’s house
    with you
    and what is there to defend
    if I can’t gaze in peace
    at your blossoming almond trees?

    Yes, I told them all
    it was just to defend myself,
    but I know it was all to conquer you
    and take your land.

    So what else is left now
    but share the depth
    of the lethal silence
    with you?

    Micki
    http://www.arabworldbooks.com/arab/poems.htm
    ~~~

    The tolerance of the people shown in the film contemplating the arrival of the wall and how it will affect their lives was amazing to see. They also seemed to be tolerant of the lying and greedy Occupiers of the whole of mandate Palestine but that acceptance is quite commonly seen. The wheel is turned to break them but they will not be broken.

    This is another beautifully written piece by a former resident of Battir.
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-wall-will-destroy-my-birthplace-battir/12070

    btw Battir Israel does not appear on a search on Google Maps. Why is that Mr Sergey Brin?

  • Fred

    “He will use the P word at the drop of a pin, and worse, is uncouth enough to brashly proceed so while apparently appearing in defence of an esteemed lady commenter. He is obviously unhinged enough to not have his bearings as to whether he’s in a boys’ locker room or at a respectable blog.”

    Ah so your pal Habbabkuk falsely accusing Mary of being homophobic is OK but mustn’t say “prick”.

    Tell me Villager, have you ever actually read any of Craig’s blog postings? Wouldn’t you say he is the sort of man who speaks his mind and uses the odd expletive when necessary? One of the things I like about him.

    The sad part isn’t that there are people like you in the world, the sad part is that they always want to be in charge of everything.

  • Habbabkuk

    I know, if course, that it is current and human to call pieces which mirror one’s own attitudes “excellent” and to call those which do not “rubbish”.

    Nonetheless, Glenn’s post at 01h36 was excellent and made a number of points which are irrefutable. So irrefutable that this post is probably superfluous, but still :

    1/. The point about the re-introduction of capotal punishment, etc, is well made. That is why MPs are representatives and not mere delegates.

    2/. It is also true that the benefits of EU membership – what I would call the “Europe of the citizen” – are underplayed and, indeed, left carefully unmentioned especially by the popular media. Since it’s early-ish in the morning, perhaps this exxample is appropriate : not so many years ago, sea bathers off Blackpool would find themselves in the company of floating turds. Today this is no longer the case. And we can thank the EU bathing water Directive for that.

    A further thought occurs : agitation against the EU in the redtops always seems more virulent when there’s a Conservative govt. Is this because – bearing in mind that complaint, sensation and the exposure of “scandal” are always better for selling newspapers – the redtops go easier on Conservative govts and therefore concentrate their fire onto another target, the EU? (Just a theory, which I’d be happy to see refuted)

  • Mary

    Have just watched a segment of a select committee hearing under Mrs Hodge’s chairmanship into Consumer Credit Regulation. Three representatives of the short term loan sector appeared, Raine of Wonga, Rees of Provident Financial and Hannam of Fair Finance. The latter was the most plausible of the three usurers. There is another hearing this week from the next batch of short term lenders. There are dozens of such firms apparently.

    Raine is very posh and if you closed your eyes, he sounded just like Keith Vaz. He is a solicitor by profession and is grandly titled Head of Regulatory Affairs for Wonga.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/16/wonga-henry-raine-maths-public-accounts-commitee_n_2488079.html

    A Tweet copied from the link above.

    @Rob_Merrick
    Wonga chief on its notorious 4,214% APR: “I agree it’s terrible.” – but insisted lenders don’t pay that, because loans short-term

    !!!!!

    PS
    Cameron adviser to become lobbyist for Wonga
    Stella Creasy accuses payday lender of ‘targeting highest echelons of government’ over news Jonathan Luff is to join firm

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/30/david-cameron-adviser-lobbyist-wonga

  • Habbabkuk

    @ Mary : Raine’s argument (“the loans are short term”) is disingenuous, because I think that if one short term loan is paid off at the end of the month and another, to the same amount, is immediately taken out again…and so on…then the borrower will in fact, over the year, have paid out 4000% in interest.

    BTW, you might know – or be interested to know, that in some western European countries the law fixes a maximum rate of interest which lenders (whether traditonal or pay day lenders) are allowed to charge. That rate is relatively modest, and the laws work. This shows that the 4000% practice could easily be eliminated in the UK if there were the political will to do so.

  • Cryptonym

    Habbadabadoo

    Glenn’s ‘Little Englander’ is meaningless jingoism, that skirts any or all of the real issues, can’t see what you admire in it. Not quite incapable of dumping shit further out to sea, without the alleged magic of the EU; at its best then your argument is for longer sewage outfall pipes, all hail the EU. It is more of the same the Little England argument from you then, it will be an even littler england -nothing more than an offshore island subsidiary department of metropolitan France. No turds in the water but the French nuclear industry using the nearby channel as a nuclear waste dump. I’d rather have Victorian sewers.

    Got any more shitty (that uncouth Fred’s influence) arguments?

    No direct democracy, no chance then of the odd miscarriage of justice, as never happens now, but high likelihood of pure evil killing sprees where deaths are counted in millions.

    Biased Redtops: Don’t buy or read them, problem solved, no need then to look for logic or reason in their antics; on the whole they support the EU, even if xenophobia sells papers.

    As you are all for the EU, these eurosceptics must have some powerful argument and motives, and your support will drive more into that camp. Uber-zionist troll in pro-EU revelations!

    The EU is political poison, one of the few issues that united Enoch Powell and Michael Foot.

    You may now proceed with ad-hom attack on the basis of mentioning Powell in less than condemnatory tones. I don’t have a dog running in the England’s EU sweep, being foreign.

  • doug scorgie

    Habbabkuk

    23 Jan, 2013 – 7:11 pm

    “(BTW, I am not homosexual, so the above thought does not flow from a personal sensitivity).”

    So you don’t want other posters on this blog to think you could possibly be homosexual? Does that bother you somehow? Are you homophobic then?

  • Habbabkuk

    No, “Doug Scorgie”, I wrote that lest someone of your ilk should immediately post back saying ‘oh, you are seeing a possible reference to homosexuality because as a homosexual yourself you are unduly sensitive’.

    In point of fact, I am neither homosexual not homophobic – but I do confesss to being somewhat imbecilophobic, which probably explains the rather curt tone in which I address you.

    Try to make today a useful day, “Doug”.

  • nevermind

    Thanks for that short little resumee of the vigil at the Ecuadorian embassy last night Clark, I would have been surprised if any of the more well heeled Oxford furies had turned up, they probably got held up with shopping in Knightsbridge.

    @ Cryptonym, you wrote

    The EU is political poison, one of the few issues that united Enoch Powell and Michael Foot.
    AQlways has been since most of the human rights laws and much of the basic EU regulations were written by British judges.
    You see they thought it was important to get involved the, long before the vote in the 1970’s, why do you think that was.

    That you do not have a fair vote for domestic elections is just tough and you seemingly like sewage, as long as it does not end up on your beach, but what of the working time directives? minimum wage, free movement of goods, cooperation with regards to sex/child/people smugglers?

    Further please explain tom us what Britain’s agriculture would look like, without cheap exploitable immigrant labour and EU subsidies for farmers, and I’m not talking about the like of Oliver Walston or the CooP here, just ordinary normal farmers.

    Further, would you like to explain how an extraction form the EU, or revolution within, would/should look like, if and when you got some time.

    What people do not realise is that DC was forced to say what he said, by his back bencher’s, Obama’s advisers, bankers, fearful of having their automaton derivative trading taxed and be regulated, and the UKIP band waggoners.

  • nevermind

    Its time you shut your trap habbakuk, you have mentioned the possible sexual proclivities of a person who is ‘missing’, who has disappeared from the face of the earth.

    So why did you do this? was it because Dr. Liam Fox, still an MP, has slept in the same room with Adam Werritty and took him on trips with access to all places, or is it because your prejudicial school masterly nature?

    Trust, if you carry on talking down to us here, we will try and have you removed, we don’t have favourites here and you do not have to indulge in civil servant manners and rankling.

    So explain yourself, why do you speak as if Adam Werritty, soon to become a board game called ‘where is Werritty, is homosexual?
    Do you think that this sort of smeary innuendo would somehow endear you to us here, Moishe?

  • Habbabkuk

    @ Never a mind (11h34).

    You are truly a medical miracle – since you seem to be the only person I’ve come across who can write (well, just about) whilst being unable to read.

    To enlighten yourself, pls refer back to my previous posts, starting with my comment on Mary’s original post on Liam Fox.

    I’m feeling didactic today, so could I point out that you are confusing the Council of Europe and its European Convention on Human Rights, which was effectively to a large degree the products of UK jurists, with Directives from the European Union, in the framing of which UK jurists have little part to play save as advisors to the relevant UK negotiators on the legislation in question.

  • Mary

    A joke from America

    Five surgeons from big cities are discussing who makes the Best
    patients to operate on.

    The first surgeon, from New York, says, ‘I like to see accountants
    on my operating table because when you open them up, everything
    inside is numbered.’

    The second, from Chicago, responds, ‘Yeah, but you should try
    electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.’

    The third surgeon, from Dallas, says, ‘No, I really think librarians
    are the best, everything inside them is in alphabetical order.’

    The fourth surgeon, from Los Angeles chimes in: ‘You know, I like
    construction workers…Those guys always understand when you have
    a few parts left over.’

    But the fifth surgeon, from Washington , DC shut them all up when
    he observed: ‘You’re all wrong. Politicians are the easiest to operate on. There’s no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains, and no spine..’

  • nevermind

    Thank you for confirming that British lawyers like yourself, and jurists were closely involved in every step, never to falter or retract.

    You have no explanation as to your insinuations of Adam Werritty’s sexual proclivities.

    Have you ever met Jimmy Saville? and if, how was the experience?

  • nevermind

    Thanks Mary, you have just freed my sinuses, and so apt when thinking of DC promises yesterday.

    How about that referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, what happened to it? maybe Cryptonym would like to give us an update whether the two will happen together, if….

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