I am delighted that a new canpaign has started today against the state enforced child slavery in the uzbek cotton industry, especially as this campaign originates in Germany, where a significant portion of society appears to have finally woken up to the reality of the German government’s appalling complicity in the Nazi style regime and atrocities of Karimov.
However in the UK it remains the case that since the coalition government came to power, there has not been one single government statement on the human rights atrocities in Uzbekistan or – even more damning of our sham democracy – one single statement or question from New Labour.
“Conversation is closed.”
Not yet it isn’t.
Looks like I owe you an apology.
Some professional smearing here.
http://news.yahoo.com/spain-newspaper-sorry-false-photo-chavez-151556199.html
and this report http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=86425 which appears to come from an unbiased source and which says he his condition is improving, according to ‘About Us’ http://www.havanatimes.org/?page_id=571
Those who do not wish Chavez well are discussed here – http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/01/israels-man-in-venezuela/
Fred: “Looks like I owe you an apology.”
Well, that is a first!
So you may want to review this too when while saying the same thing as me, you asked me if i was stupid?
REPEAT
Villager
21 Jan, 2013 – 9:57 am
FOR THE RECORD:
Two days ago i asked:
” BTW, if any one here thinks this constant poking at Mary (whom i don’t know but already love) is civilised, please put their hand up.”
Not one.
—-
Fred
21 Jan, 2013 – 10:19 am
‘Two days ago i asked:
” BTW, if any one here thinks this constant poking at Mary (whom i don’t know but already love) is civilised, please put their hand up.”’
Mary’s posts are good, they focus our attention out at what is happening in the world, stimulate new topics and may lead to enlightenment.
Habbabkuk’s posts are bad, they direct our attentions inwards towards ourselves where there is nowhere to go but up our own arseholes.
Habbabkuk is too stupid to understand that. Are you?”
@Clark, I not think it’s Fred you should be linking with Habbabkuk but possibly English Knight, because he, just like Habbabkuk has been caught sock-puppetting before; also the “Good Cop / Bad Cop” routine would actually sum-up the “coincidence” of the short-lived appearance of Oniel Samuel just shorly after Habbabkuk started posting here; I would be interested if this comment by Jon to Habbabkuk, “I’ve had more disruption and sock-puppetting coming from your computer than from Oniel’s”, is stating that Oniel was also sock-puppetting ?
A video of Julian Assange speaking to the Oxford Union meeting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4vQNWYnQjUE 21 mins
Mary, well done, thank you. gonna watch it now.
“So you may want to review this too when while saying the same thing as me, you asked me if i was stupid?”
Are you?
Because it seems to me you are still looking inwards.
*Lib Dems condemn MP’s criticism of Israel ahead of Holocaust Memorial Day*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21194991
No good remembering without learning.
The LibDems have forgotten everything they ever stood for, they are a joke.
Some very good informative posts which reminds us that our blog is also a function, with purpose. Thanks to Mary for reminding us the Oxford Union is of the best and certainly most prestigious debating arena.
The Sam Adams Awards are not only a dedication to truth and integrity, they personify and substantiate the bravery and dedication of people like Coleen Rowley who visited and exposed that fearful zombie place that manufactures deception, to Thomas Fingar who helped prevent a war and my personal friend Annie Machon, bless you darling.
Fred the Shred again:
“Are you?
Because it seems to me you are still looking inwards.”
Perfect. Just wanted to make sure you were still the same rude, old abusive person without an ounce of grace or wisdom, despite your age.
The most telling statement of yours, for all to see as you bare yourself, phrased in your usual anatomical language is the route you choose to look ‘inwards’:
” Habbabkuk’s posts are bad, they direct our attentions inwards towards ourselves where there is nowhere to go but up our own arseholes.
No wonder its so dark and stinking in there. As inside, so outside.
Another Jenny Tonge moment coming up for Clegg? Mr Ward is on the yellow carpet for saying, after visiting Auschwitz,
“Having visited Auschwitz twice – once with my family and once with local schools – I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza.”
Lib Dems condemn MP’s criticism of Israel ahead of Holocaust Memorial Day
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21194991
HMD on Sunday. There was a debate on the subject on Wednesday and earlier the Merlyn Rees lecture for the HET in the Atlee Room with Miliband D and Daniel Finkelstein of the Times.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2013-01-24a.527.0&s=armed+forces
“Perfect. Just wanted to make sure you were still the same rude, old abusive person without an ounce of grace or wisdom, despite your age.”
Fuck off shit for brains.
@ Habbabkuk
I estimate that one third of the comments on this thread are about your behavior.
I would like to ask you a straight question: do you think this is a satisfactory situation on a political blog?
“I estimate that one third of the comments on this thread are about your behavior.
I would like to ask you a straight question: do you think this is a satisfactory situation on a political blog?”
Says more about the blog than it does about him.
Always Tories in masks.
More likely they never did stand for anything but what was expedient. Basically the Atlanticist Gaitskellite wing of the Labour Party, which gave Harold Wilson so much trouble. But for their splitting the anti-Tory vote in 1983, Thatcher might never have won that stomping majority, and would have been replaced as Conservative Party leader. Most of manufacturing industry would have been saved, the painful miner’s strike never taking place.
Any alternative to the two-party system must have multiple parties, a half dozen or more, regulated funding, an informed electorate and a PR system reflecting a party’s preponderance of national level support, and would still be horribly flawed. Hence some form of direct democracy needed, not representative democracy; in the DD model frequent referenda on contentious issues and policy, renewed mandate given as events move and opinion shifts, suggests some plebiscite needed at least every three months or so. Formal constitutional safeguards for sanctity of life, would end the dumb return of hanging/flogging argument forever trotted out against letting the people truly decide important matters themselves.
The timing of my last post may seem a coincidence, it is also an intention with a message that this place may only be a measure of our own integrity for those who decide to commit thought and energy to it. It is also a record, part of a time-line left for our kin and posterity.
“Any alternative to the two-party system must have multiple parties, a half dozen or more, regulated funding, an informed electorate and a PR system reflecting a party’s preponderance of national level support, and would still be horribly flawed.”
Trouble is it’s Murdoch been doing all the informing. Keep the population dumbed down with reality TV then tell them who to vote for. That isn’t democracy.
@ A Node : your estimate is probably too high, but the answer to your question is no, I certainly don’t think it’s satisfactory.
Finally!
The Oxford Union appears to have relented and put up Julian Assange’s speech at the Sam Adams awards ceremony. I reckon the fuss must have been about Wikileaks’ use of Collateral Murder as a backdrop because the green screen here has been replaced with the Oxford Union’s logo but you can still see Collateral Murder behind Assange in the long shots from the auditorium.
It’s a great speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vQNWYnQjUE&feature=youtu.be
I think it’s called mission creep. Little by little and that’s not only the ConDem liars/politicians. Somebody here once called them moral pygmies.
25 January 2013 Last updated at 17:06
RAF surveillance aircraft Sentinel deployed
An RAF surveillance aircraft has been sent to Mali to support France’s military action there, the Ministry of Defence said.
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said the Sentinel R1 aircraft “has proved its worth in Libya and on an ongoing basis for counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan”.
Two British C17 transport aircraft have already been sent to the region.
Mr Cameron has previously said Britain will not deploy ground troops in Mali.
Direct democracy has it Cryptonym; why should we, the people, the resource, be represented by a face and a mouth controlled by a script?
“Direct democracy has it Cryptonym; why should we, the people, the resource, be represented by a face and a mouth controlled by a script?”
Doesn’t seem to have done the Swiss any harm.
@ A Node : your estimate is probably too high, but the answer to your question is no, I certainly don’t think it’s satisfactory.
well, this nameless saint here and Fred have certainly been making an effort to lower the tone, you are part of this unsatisfactory blog, by your own admission, feel the wetness in your bed? it was you whose done it.
But then that’s your interpretation rather than that of a wider readership.
“ A believer, a mind whose faith is consciousness, is never disturbed because other persons do not yet see the fact which he sees.”
good old Waldo
From the Remember You Heard About It Here First dept.
The two Chilean journalists who blew the whistle about the CIA drug-running plot to destabilise Ecuador (first reported in English by Craig here) have had to request political asylum in Ecuador:
https://twitter.com/RicardoPatinoEC/status/294649253756805120
I don’t have any further details on it than that, but it sounds like their whistleblowing may have brought down the proverbial forty tonnes of shit on their heads.
@Nevermind With regards to Gold this is worth a watch.
http://youtu.be/23dAYAY8V48
Dave
🙂
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/current_issue.php?
@ A Node (and anyone one else interested)
Your post at 16h54n to which I already replied once got me thinking again and so I went back to the beginning….
Craig started this blog on state enforced child slavery in the Uzbek cotton industry at 15h07 on 16 January. At the time of writing, it contains around 560 posts.
Within 30 minutes I posted an on-topic comment (I was probably just in the right place at the right time).
There then followed a number of posts – driven mainly by Uzzbek in the UK – which were also (some only more or less, but never mind) on-topic.
And then : 13 POSTS IN, a post from Mary about the Aitkenhead profile on Julian Assange and concluding with a link to soimething or other concerning John Pilger.
So Mary had the priviledge of kicking off the off-topics. Didn’t take her long.
After that, total confusion and an accelerating proliferation of off-topic posts about this, that and everything.
Habbabkuk only enters the fray (also O/T) at post n° 89.
I leave it to you to judge who’s doing the disrupting (if that’s the word that’s being used).
‘..a great speech’ Arbed, worth a revisit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vQNWYnQjUE&feature=youtu.be
I am reminded that life membership of the Oxford Union is limited to members of Oxford Uni – the learning ground for war criminal Antony Blair. But is was not ‘jurisprudence’ that corrupted and perverted Blair, it was the system or path he took through the ‘temple’ in the City of London.
No, the Union is blessed with student members from Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies and Oxford Centre for Postgraduate Hebrew Studies, that provides an equanimity to it’s output.
A Node says: “I estimate that one third of the comments on this thread are about your behavior.
I would like to ask you a straight question: do you think this is a satisfactory situation on a political blog?”
Fred shreds: “Says more about the blog than it does about him.”
We’re beginning to get a little bit sour now are we. With your anatomically expressed remarks like your latest “Fuck off shit for brains.”, Dr Shred you are making Mr Habbabkuk look distinguishably eloquent. Even he hasn’t fallen so low. Whereas you Fred, are spiritually bankrupt and verbally challenged. Good cop/Bad cop or not, you two do make quite a pair.
The good thing about long threads, especially twisted ones like this, is people have a long enough rope to hang themselves.
..and apart from the personality clashes unavoidable in any long debate, the entire thread is about sham democracy.