Now is the Winter of our Disinterment 699


The researchers had a hunch he was there. ATOS pass Richard III’s skeleton as fit to work.

Joking aside, the discovery of Richard III’s body is fascinating and wonderful. Aside from Shakespeare’s brilliant play (which is evidently not as physically inaccurate as we have been told for years), and the question of who killed the Princes in the Tower, there is a romance about lost dynasties which appeals to a deep human yearning for a golden age when things were somehow better, and for “lost futures”. What might have been, had those evil Stanleys not turned on Richard at Bosworth and put their miserable Welsh accountant on the throne?

Richard is described in today’s newspapers as the last English King. The Plantagenets were of course Angevin. The last English King – indeed the only English King of all England – was Harold Godwinson. Now there’s a lost dynasty for you.

We now know that Richard’s “Claim of Right” was almost certainly true and Edward IV a bastard, as his father was nowhere near his mother for months around the purported conception. But the so-called Royal line is, I am quite sure, sprinkled with bastards and no line at all. Not to mention that George I was 39th in line to the throne when given it 300 years ago, but the first Protestant.

Monarchy is bollocks, and something we should have outgrown a long time ago. Nice to see that today’s Prince Harry retains the tradition of remorseless homicide though.

Leicester University deserve congratulations on a genuine achievement. I hope Richard can now be reburied as soon as possible – as a Catholic, which is what he was. He was a human being. The degradation and display of his fresh corpse were horrible; but there is a danger of repeating it with a po face and feigned serious intent.


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  • Clark

    Thatcrab, no credit to me. CE just did what CE does, but this time happened to come face to face with some facts from Arbed’s personal history. All I did was rant a bit, and point out where I’d seen CE tend in that direction previously.

  • Mary

    The headlines are saying that the ‘horsemeat scandal is spreading across Europe’. It occurred to me that the cook/chill food suppliers here might also be distributing the stuff coming from Romania via other European countries. Daily a lorry passes by here dekivering to pubs, bars and restaurants in the town. The lorries bearing the logo of the company concerned are seen often in a wider area.

    Patterson of DEFRA is speasking in the commons today. His response so far has been described as flat footed and inadequate.

  • Mary

    Following the comment that Julie Burchill chose the Israeli national anthem as one of her Desert Island Discs, I looked to see what else she selected…..the theme from Exodus, Hebrewman, and something from Morrissey. He performed in Israel in spite of an appeal from the BDS movement not to go there.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/23/morrissey-in-tel-aviv-israeli-flag_n_1695141.html

    Why doesn’t she go the whole hog and make Aliyah?

    Music Played
    .
    Freda Payne
    Band Of Gold

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    Morrissey
    Last Of The International Playboys

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    Andy Williams
    The Exodus Song (from the U.A. Picture “Exodus”)

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    Spike Jones & His City Slickers
    Cocktails For Two

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    Sarah Moule
    A Lazy Kind of Love

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    Ehud Banai
    Hebrewman

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    Enrico Macias
    Hatikva (the Israeli National anthem)

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    The Beach Boys
    The Warmth Of The Sun

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qhd0p

  • guano

    Yesterday evening the spooks put out an edition of Analysis on Radio 4 about the Alawis including some evidence from Ibn Taymiyyah which can be corroborated here:
    http://www.ibntaymiyyah.com/print.cfm?mcoty
    I would just like to remind the spooks that it is not the job of the enemies of Islam to teach the Muslims their religion.

    The BBC raises the question of genocide of the Alawis resulting from the war in Syria, citing Ibn Taymiyyah as stating that the Alawi have no religion and are worse than the Franks/Crusaders.
    A strange thing indeed that the Crusaders of today take solace from the scholars of Islam that some part of Christianity as it was in that time used to be based on the teachings of a true prophet, Jesus pbuh, while no part of the Alawite religion is based on any part of Islam, except for what they copy to avoid harm.

    The BBC forgets that Western Democracy has severed its roots with Christianity, except for what they copy to avoid harm such as from bankrupting their economies with interest and embezzlement and having to resort to begging from subjugated oil-rich Muslim states to re-fill the Zionist bankers’ coffers so that they can bleed us to death again.

    Yesterday Obama reiterated the old US promises to re-unite Turkish Kurdistan which was severed by the British from the other parts after World War I. Carrot and stick. ‘Secular Western Democracy is closer to Islam than your Alawite locals and we are also your only friends against your Turkish neighbours.’

    The smile on the Cheshire Cat William Hague will hover around a long time on these pathetic manipulative intrusions into a desperate struggle in Syria. Ibn Taymiyyah stated clearly that it is lawful to fight with Alawis who take arms against you on the grounds of their kufr/disbelief. If he was alive in the time of Western secular democracy he would be saying the same about them on the same grounds.

  • thatcrab

    Morrisey playing to Tel Aviv, a fresh meaning to the lyrics:
    “Shop lifters of the world – unite and take over”

    With the Smiths in the 80s he will always be magic, but always a random bollock too. Part of the charm.

  • Mary

    Clark 11 Feb, 2013 – 12:38 am Go look at what CE has just done on the previous thread. It’s quite unbelievable. I feel sick.

    Yes Clark I have just read the stuff. Sick here too especially in the light of the very recent and tragic suicide of Frances Andrade, the witness in the Brewer case. Her life was totally messed up when she was a little one and then as a teenager at the Chetham’s School of Music. I think Arbed has been amazingly brave to reveal details of her ordeal. It must be like living it over again.

  • Mary

    Guano Thanks for your comments on Syria. Appreciated and agreed. Also your earlier comment for which thanks. I was not really upset but in the light of the bother I am experiencing here at the moment, I am probably a bit touchy.

    What has brought these troublesome people here lately? Our defence of Julian Assange? Our objections to and condemnation of the activities of the NWO war criminals? Who knows what their motivation is.

  • Fred

    “What has brought these troublesome people here lately? Our defence of Julian Assange? Our objections to and condemnation of the activities of the NWO war criminals? Who knows what their motivation is.”

    Attention seekers Mary, just attention seekers.

    They certainly get what they came for.

    “God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    The courage to change the things I can,
    And wisdom to know the difference.”

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    “The bother I’m experiencing….” – oh for Heaven’s sake man up a little, Mary!

    Some – I repeat some, a small minority – of your posts are being challenged. Now you may not be used to it, but that’s just too bad. You have the right to post on a public forum and others have the right to challenge you when they feel it’s warranted.

    So stop complaining and playing the martyr

    La vita è bella, life is good (yours too, I should say)!

  • nevermind

    I wholly agree Mary, what a sick puppy indeed, deserving to be put to rest. CE’s hit and run attacks on this blog posters and their persona, rather than the issue are just adding to the tediousness of the HabbyDiss double act.

    The horse meat scandal is spreading and still no explanation how pork could end up in Halal prison food. If it was Halal, could it have been served elsewhere.

    Why is the FSA so useless when this is their job? Are they useless by design, exactly what was raised at their inception?
    Without an FSA representative in every abattoir, and a strict DNA control for incoming meats and processed food, this will happen again.
    In the long run this will hurt, because people will begin to buy from local reputable suppliers, sources they know, rather than buy processed foods they cannot trust, a welcome development.

    What this scandal has shown is that Hillside animal shelter has more nous and interest to ensure a healthy meat supply than the FSA, it should be scrapped, wholesale and be replaced by local abattoir inspection teams with a permanent presence, paid for a by a levy on large retailers, who currently undertake no meaningful checks of their own.

    Add to that an extra team of DNA testers attached to the H%S executive,, solely acting on tips and information provided by the local and private campaigners. Such measures, together with certification of origin should be able to stop such kind of wholesale deception, false labelling with intent and contamination of foods that should not get contaminated, like Halal and Kosher food stuffs.

    Waiting until this Friday, and not checking for other animals DNA, is wrong.
    What if they find Cangaroo DNA in Pork sausages, or dog DNA in pet foods, or donkey DNA in salami’s?

    But then they are not looking for anything else but horse. Are they checking school meals and their suppliers?, what a crap minister, waiting for a whole week to inform us?

    After having tested the FSA and their relevant minister, we have decided that they are both not fit for human consumption and must go!

  • nevermind

    For gods sake lets have these HabbyDissCE jokers removed, they are inconsequential to the human race, so why should we listen to their ill educated whining, if they need to seek professional help.

    I’m sure they will find what they really need, their kind of contact, here.
    http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/157/3/410

  • thatcrab

    Organic is looking very attractive, it my not be perfect or everyones priority, but it is an extra level of regulation and checking on top of the shoddy standard regulation. Even when the standard regulation was ‘working’ they saw no problem in feeding cows (herbivores) the rendered remains of other cows, until the perverse practice caused mad cow disease and human CJD.

  • thatcrab

    Some people say Organic practice is ‘unscientific’, but they dont mess around with shit like that, they are careful with food.

  • John Goss

    Some excellent breaking news. I’m sure the majority will be pleased. The Express and Mirror have both run articles this morning on re-opening the inquest into the death of Dr David Kelly. It is based on the fact that the original inquest was not formally closed.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/376950/Re-open-Dr-David-Kelly-inquest-say-doctors
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calls-for-fresh-david-kelly-inquest-1681290

    The Mirror is running a poll too on whether the inquest should be re-opened. I won’t try and influence anybody’s vote.

  • nevermind

    He must be seriously challenged to resign, Mary, wanting out before he becomes too unpopular and/or is helped out, unwillingly. The defender of age old dogma is stepping down, and many will be pleased about this.
    For twenty years did he advise pope Woitila, before he became pope, then succeeded him. It was Benedict who advised and stoically rejected liberation Catholicism and thereby put millions, already poor, further into poverty.

  • Mary

    Habb is a nasty twisted piece of work and a liar.

    I have had constant interference and smearing since his arrival here as was proved recently. His latest on my comments on the social care smoke and mirrors from Hunt, Osborne, Cameron and Clegg, implied that I must be rich to have commented on inheritance tax thresholds and a hypocrite as I am a ‘socialist’. I have never belonged to any political party or group apart from thpse seeking justice for Palestine.

    No I do not live in a 6 bedroomed gated mansion occupied by some of the crooks around here who have made good with our money. I live in the same dormer bungalow which my late husband and I purchased in 1979 which had a downstairs bedroom and bathroom as it was ideal for my disabled widowed mother who lived with us and whom I cared for 10 years until she died. My husband died unexpectedly and at a relatively young age one week later. My stepchildren who also lived with us now have families of their own and are provided for.

    No I favour paying taxes if they are used for the common good and not on Trident nuclear submarines or Hellfire missiles.

    I do not care what inheritance tax is collected if I leave anything behind as I won’t be around to care.

    So therefore wish he would cease messing with me and literally get lost.

    btw His Life is Beautiful meme is of course a link to the film about a holocaust survivor.

    Life Is Beautiful (Italian: La vita è bella) is a 1997 Italian comedy-drama film directed by and starring Roberto Benigni. Benigni plays Guido Orefice, a Jewish Italian book shop owner, who must employ his fertile imagination to shield his son from the horrors of internment in a Nazi concentration camp. Part of the film came from Benigni’s own family history; before his birth Roberto’s father had survived three years of internment at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. The film was a critical and financial success, winning Benigni the Academy Award for Best Actor at the 71st Academy Awards as well as the Academy Award for Best Original Dramatic Score and the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film.

  • Fred

    “Organic is looking very attractive, it my not be perfect or everyones priority, but it is an extra level of regulation and checking on top of the shoddy standard regulation. Even when the standard regulation was ‘working’ they saw no problem in feeding cows (herbivores) the rendered remains of other cows, until the perverse practice caused mad cow disease and human CJD.”

    Blood and bone meal was considered organic, still is, gardeners can still buy it as an organic fertiliser. There was nothing new about it, farmers had been using it as a protein source for generations. They didn’t just put a cow into a mincing machine then feed it to other cows, a lot more to it than that.

    Now farmers have to use other forms of protein, like genetically modified soya they cut down a South American rain forest to grow. They have to use the cheapest protein they can get because the consumers will only shop at the supermarkets with the cheapest prices so the supermarkets will only buy from the farmer who supplies things cheap. If they want 10 burgers for £1.50 what the hell do they expect?

  • Mary

    Yes Nevermind I agree there.

    and Yes John Goss. Just one thing. There never was an inquest as such. One was opened but no hearing took place and then Bliar and Campbell stepped in with their creation of the Hutton whitewash. I believe the ‘inquest’ was formally closed later.

    As Pinter said, ‘It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest’ etc……

    ‘Kelly apparently committed suicide in a field close to his home on 17 July. An inquiry was announced by the British government the following day. The inquiry was to investigate “the circumstances surrounding the death of Dr Kelly”. The inquiry
    opened on 1 August. Hearings began on 11 August.’ Wikipedia The Hutton Inquiry

    Have you got blood on your hands Mr Blair?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElSAygXWS3Q

  • Clark

    Mary, your life is beautiful, because it is real. You present yourself here as a person with opinions, background, experiences; all the things that show that you are genuine. We’ve seen your comments here for years. Personally, I feel that I know you. Not to the extent that I know people that I actually meet regularly or over an extended time, but a whole lot more than just a name-tag next to some text.

    The same is not true of all contributors. Something like Habbabkuk is effectively a parasite upon sociality, in that it presents essentially nothing of itself. Instead, it relies upon contradiction of opinions and denigration of the character of genuine identities, and without them it would have nothing of its own.

    This presents a nasty trap. The more of ourselves that we offer online, the more this thing has to denigrate, thus pressuring us to behave more like it does. But ultimately, in its current form, it is dependent, it has no separate existence.

    Mary, respect has to be earned. You’ve earned mine.

  • John Goss

    Agreed Mary. That clip of Blair lost for words is classic. The new request for an inquest revolves about the coroner at the time, Nicholas Gardiner, not signing off the Hutton report. Hutton himself was not a coroner and had no right to pass judgment on how Dr Kelly died. His inquiry was quite rightly labelled a whitewash. The body was almost certainly moved though Thames Valley Police, despite numerous FOI requests, have refused to release photographs, or even allow a select group of doctors to see photographs, which would confirm this. Hutton put an embargo on certain documents of seventy years. This is the wheels within wheels of government corruption over the death of a good man.

    The argument used for not releasing photographs is that they do not want to upset Dr Kelly’s relatives, which is a ridiculous argument. The purpose of an inquest, which as you rightly say, never took place, is to establish a cause of death. I am not suggesting this is the case, but one of Dr Kelly’s relatives could have been responsible for his death. What then? Coroners do not sit on evidence in case it might upset a relative. They establish the cause of death. This is one of the reasons why Lord Hutton is to my mind an absolute buffoon. This and the fact that none of the witnesses at his inquiry answered questions under oath.

  • Macky

    “What has brought these troublesome people here lately? Our defence of Julian Assange? Our objections to and condemnation of the activities of the NWO war criminals? Who knows what their motivation is.”

    I think it was this Blog recently being reported as the third most popular political blog, so this has attracted an influx of estblishment trolls, paid or otherwise; the habibarbar clown more or less admitted so earlier on a previous thread.

    Mary, please don’t let that habi-clown get under your skin; the only way his posts are “challenging” are in revealing just how mentally challenged this sad, fake & deluded troll is himself.

  • guano

    Thatcrab
    You think I am the front legs of a team called Guano-Arsalan?
    God forbid. With a name like that he bless him, would obviously have been the back part. But there again my name is Anas, and my mum calls me Willie and I deliver Guano so maybe I have the better claim.
    Muslims can have similar opinions without being the same person.
    If they’re looking for panto horses to put into beefburgers, they should try the Habeascorpus and Donkeyrescue team.

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